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EL Ninho - Red Bull gives you wings

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Jerry Robinson56 Jerry Robinson56 RegularOP
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#1 ·
shadoworca3 said:@Jerry Robinson56/">@@Jerry Robinson56
If you manage to squeeze out one more sentence of this condescending rhetoric, you might as well pack your bags and leave the faculty permanently.

Perhaps we could approach this with a bit of academic rigor and actually define what constitutes "condescension" here?
This isn't merely a philosophical inquiry; it’s a scientific necessity, given that such a heavy accusation lacks any empirical basis unless someone has fed you a specific narrative or your own political biases are clouding your judgment.
I have absolutely no desire to believe that these remarks reflect the objective stance of a scientist. Would you be so kind as to engage in a civil discussion to clear up this misunderstanding? I assure you there will be no hostility, and you shall retain full prerogative over your positions.
shadoworca3 shadoworca3 Member
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#2 ·
It really is quite straightforward: when you encounter someone holding an opposing viewpoint, rather than resorting to those petty little jabs—suggesting they aren't bright enough to grasp the concept—it is far more productive to simply provide a reasoned, logical rebuttal explaining exactly where their reasoning fell short.

For instance, in your previous post, you went so far as to imply that I lacked the mental capacity to recognize your condescension without being pointed out, all while dragging politics into a conversation where it has absolutely no business being.
Jerry Robinson56 Jerry Robinson56 RegularOP
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#3 ·
Your assessment was far too vague. Did you even consider whether one of the solutions to this "complex" is actually viable? Furthermore, if other aspects have failed or fallen short, shouldn't we call things by their true names? One could easily encounter someone who feels slighted or insulted, making it quite obvious when comments are entirely irrelevant to the topic or lack any semblance of "expertise." As a moderator, you cannot possibly witness every dirty blow dealt; it isn't a failure on your part, it is simply the nature of the beast. I am presenting my arguments through subtle hints, attempting to nudge "the other side" toward actual reflection.

I am not implying 🙂... please, don't take this personally. You understand, of course. You do.
Besides, politics moved into
a long time ago.
with a very transparent implication, starting from the notion that I am not stupid, just unhinged, and so on...
Since I have no insight into your body of work, I simply allowed a newcomer's portfolio to provide an initial impression based on what was written.
I took your draconian warning quite seriously, regardless of whether I possess the inclination to write, and I find it fundamentally unjust.
The inquiry was specifically asking whether the condescension extended to Mr. Soljančić. Please refrain from applying such generalizations to everything.
shadoworca3 shadoworca3 Member
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joined Jul 2010
#4 ·
You’re more than welcome to challenge Soljačić with actual arguments since he’s a public figure, but let’s not turn on the other members here. It just breeds unnecessary hostility, turning our discussion threads into gladiatorial arenas where the actual point of the conversation gets completely lost in the noise.

Now, I won't pretend you were the only one playing a condescending tune—even if you were leading the orchestra, I would have handed out warnings immediately if that were the case.
After that initial warning, you didn't exactly stick to the sheet music, but since there weren't any truly jarring notes, we'll leave things as they are for now. Just know that moving forward, any further dissonance will result in an immediate ban and thread closure, regardless of who starts it.
Jerry Robinson56 Jerry Robinson56 RegularOP
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joined Apr 2013
#5 ·
🙂 I have by no means insulted Soljačić; in fact, I have an entire collection of my previous posts ready to substantiate my claim. It seems my opponents simply lack the attention span required for careful reading. My only assertion was calling him a dilettante in the most literal, strictly academic sense of the word.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dilettante

The definition implies that one may possess quite extensive knowledge or skill. As long as they aren't practicing professionally—that is, earning their primary livelihood from the craft—they are categorized as an amateur or a dilettante.

You could just as easily have labeled me a hack, given that my detractors have offered nothing but sheer incompetence in their rebuttals. It would be a regrettable waste to close this thread. We are merely dealing with people being true to their natures, and frankly, the threat of a permanent ban felt rather heavy-handed, wouldn't you agree? There is plenty of fodder here for those interested in debate, and for the sake of enlightenment, there remains a substantial volume of discourse to explore.
thanks

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