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Why is calling people "Nazi sympathizers" being tolerated here?

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wiredangler5 wiredangler5 Active Member
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joined Mar 2013
#21 ·
First off, my apologies to anyone who sent me a DM and didn't get a reply. Work kept me away from Washington, D.C. and offline for a few days. I'm a bit old school—still using one of those basic phones that doesn't really handle the modern web on the go😁.

Sam Green73 said:That isn't necessary and is just cluttering the debate.

You can judge an opinion, but don't judge the person.
It's much easier to change an opinion than it is to change a person.

I noticed you don't like being lumped into a group just to be attacked for it.
So, please don't try to force others into boxes either.

cosmictinker44 said:It’s not about how people label themselves. They can do that if they want.
We are talking about labeling someone else here...

These two posts pretty much sum up what we should take away from this whole report. The user from Connecticut is right—labeling people isn't allowed and isn't okay. Some people might not mind it, as mentioned in the thread, but for others, it's an issue.
If we allow it for some because they aren't bothered, but restrict it for others, we'll end up with double standards and total chaos regarding our rules.
This kind of behavior should be avoided in discussions, and if it happens, it should result in a warning.

In these quotes, you mention there's a difference between labeling an opinion versus a person. Around here, that distinction is blurry and debatable. Because the Middle East is the Middle East—never simple, always complicated.
In this part of the world, even saying "your view is too pro-American" or "your view is too pro-Russian" (or making comments about someone being a nostalgic former communist just because they remember the good old days) can lead to trouble.
In that last case, people often end up feeling personally insulted.

That's why it's best to avoid labeling altogether whenever possible, just so "labeling an opinion" doesn't become a mask for attacking a person.

Connecticut, the posts have been moderated and we can close this discussion. John Doe, posts can be subject to a warning or action for up to 10 days after they are posted.
amberwalker4 amberwalker4 Active MemberOP
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joined Mar 2013
#22 ·
Alex Scott5 said:amberwalker4, you have a point.
But you have to admit you get a bit (pre)emotional in these kinds of debates too. The demon has been warned; since I saw this just five days after it was posted, I decided to skip the warning card. If it happens again, give a warning via DM or file a complaint, then go straight for the ban.


I view forum posting as a virtual debate. So, I know how to be emotional. It might be annoying, but I don't see it that way and I can't help it 😁. If I'm irritating anyone or if I'm not in the spirit of the discussion, just warn me. I'm open to criticism.

wiredangler5 said:First off, my apologies to everyone who messaged me privately and didn't get a reply. Work took me away from Washington, D.C. for a few days, so I wasn't on the forum (I'm still old school, using an old phone that doesn't play nice with all these new gadgets that let you get online anywhere, anytime 😁).

These two posts pretty much sum up what should be concluded from this whole report. amberwalker4 is actually right—labeling people isn't allowed and it isn't okay. Some people aren't bothered by it, as they mentioned in the thread, but others definitely are.
If we allow it for some because it doesn't bother them, while protecting others, we'll end up with double standards, which eventually leads to chaos in our rules.
This kind of thing should be avoided in discussions, and if it happens, it should result in a warning card.

In these quotes, you mention there's a difference when it comes to labeling a viewpoint. Here, that only applies in certain cases; in others, it's debatable. Because the Middle East is the Middle East—never simple, always complicated.
Because around here, it isn't even the same thing to say "your view is pro-American/pro-Russian" or "your view is ultra-liberal/you're just a nostalgic relic of the old regime (where a guy remembers the good old days of getting his Scout membership and suddenly he's a commie sympathizer)."
In the latter case, the person will often find themselves insulted.

So, it would be best to avoid any kind of labeling as much as possible, just so that labeling a viewpoint doesn't become a mask for labeling the person.

amberwalker4, the posts have been flagged, and we can close this discussion. wasp, feel free to issue a card up to 10 days after a post is made; until then, posts are subject to a reaction or a warning.

Well, I don't have one of those phones either, so I get it 😁.Joking aside, I understand that someone might be unable to get onto the forum for a few days (for instance, I haven't been on the forum since the last post in this thread), but in those times, I ask for understanding because otherwise, it looks like I'm ignoring people. Thanks for the response and the help, both to you and to wasp.🙂

Hey there.
rustydrifter10 rustydrifter10 Regular
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joined Apr 2011
#23 ·
I’m honestly just so relieved we finally made it to this point.

Best,

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