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Rhinoplasty: Experiences and recovery tips?

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briskorca6 briskorca6 Member
11 messages
joined Jun 2009
#701 ·
Betty Edwards22 said:That’s spot on. Kalogjera is primarily a functional rhinoplasty specialist—he even published a specific flap technique for functional nose reconstruction. Looking at your post, you don't seem too sold on his specific approach, so why even consider him? He doesn't need the hype like Dr. Jurlina or his patients think. His clinic is booked out two to three months in advance anyway.

It's not about the cash or the clout, I'm definitely going private. I just wanna know if anyone's actually dealt with him for both function AND looks, and if the results actually hold up.
Carol Cox72 Carol Cox72 Newcomer
1 message
joined Dec 2013
#702 ·
Hey everyone, so I just found out today that I’m scheduled for surgery shortly after New Year's with Dr. Alan Pegan over at the Vineyard... and I was hoping maybe a few of you could help me out with some questions if you have a moment. I'm mostly feeling a bit anxious because the timing of the procedure overlaps right when my period is supposed to start, and I can't help but wonder how common it is to have surgery while on your cycle. Also, has anyone ever used those pills to delay a period? I was looking through all the paperwork from the anesthesiologist, but I didn't see anything specifically mentioning whether those are okay to take or not. On top of that, if anyone here has actually been treated by Dr. Pegan before, I'd love to hear 🙂 🤷 😕
Jesse Sanchez90 Jesse Sanchez90 Active Member
66 messages
joined Feb 2013
#703 ·
Alex Moore62 said:What’s the motivation behind this dirty insinuation and plant? Are we just trying to discredit the competition now?! That isn't what this Forum is for, nor is it a place for advertisements. In this thread, we’re all here to help one another by sharing our actual experiences as patients. If you're a doctor and you genuinely want to help by offering information, advice, or a recommendation, people will be incredibly grateful—but posting like this just isn't right.

Dr. Jurlin certainly doesn't need the hype; his schedule is completely packed, and usually, by early spring, he’s already stopped taking new patient appointments. He handles the heavy-duty surgeries at Mount Sinai, and septum deviations are often managed alongside those more complex procedures.
As someone who has been his patient for years and has undergone two different surgeries with him, I can honestly say nothing but wonderful things about his expertise. That’s exactly why I’m recommending him here if anyone is looking for a referral.

Since I spent most of my life struggling with sinus issues and saw plenty of ENT specialists before finding him, I can speak from experience regarding the difference in his approach. His diagnostic process and treatment plan were worlds apart from others who didn't even bother with proper diagnostics, let alone effective treatment—including the folks over at Vineyard, where the absolute peak of their "therapy" was just giving me some nasal drops; they barely lifted a finger for the actual diagnosis. I really hope the situation there has improved since then.

Besides, I'm definitely not the only one here who has posted as his patient. Others on the Forum have shared their own positive experiences with him over the years, both before and after my own journey.


Everything you wrote there—those are your thoughts and your conclusions, and I see no reason to pick them apart.

Regarding Dr. Jurlin, you're absolutely right—he doesn't need any agitation via the Forum, especially since almost every other post of yours seems to revolve around him. You sound just like those aggressive promoters you see at cell phone kiosks or electricity sales booths on the street corner.

Thirdly, both hospitals are completely swamped with work, so your
insinuations about "this or that competitor" simply don't hold water.

You actually asked me PRIVATELY where I work—so much for "discrediting" people and airing private details and "dirty laundry."
Rest the case...
Jesse Sanchez90 Jesse Sanchez90 Active Member
66 messages
joined Feb 2013
#704 ·
briskorca6 said:It’s honestly not even about the money or how much they advertise; I’m definitely planning on going to a private practice anyway. I'm just genuinely curious if anyone here has worked with him on both functionality and aesthetics, and if you were happy with the results.

He is hands down the most knowledgeable expert on ENT surgical techniques in the entire US.

He does handle certain aesthetic procedures, but that’s really a question you’d need to ask him directly—since I can't see your nose or read your mind! That said, from what I've seen, his main focus is functional rhinoplasty, and he's incredibly dedicated to those types of patients until they eventually move on to seeing Jetti.
Jesse Sanchez90 Jesse Sanchez90 Active Member
66 messages
joined Feb 2013
#705 ·
Carol Cox72 said:Hi everyone! I just found out I'm scheduled for surgery right after New Year's with Dr. Alan Pegan at the Vineyard hospital... so I have a few questions if anyone could help me out. What's worrying me most is that my period is due right around the time of the procedure. Has anyone here had surgery while on their period? Also, has anyone ever taken pills to delay their cycle? I was looking through the paperwork from the anesthesiologist, but there wasn't anything mentioned about whether those types of medications are allowed or not. Finally, if anyone has personally worked with Dr. Pegan, I'd love to hear about your experience! 🙂 🤷 😕

That’s really a question you should primarily run by your anesthesiologist.

If that's the case, you basically have two paths: either coordinate a delay right away (the patient schedule moves pretty fast), or show up for your scheduled appointment and then ask to push the surgery back by a few days once you're there. Honestly, the clinics are so busy that it's rare for someone to get lucky and find an immediate opening, but that extra time gives you enough room to get everything sorted. It's definitely better than messing around with pharmacology when you know you'll ultimately be moving to a higher dose of Fragmine anyway.

As for your last question, I can't really weigh in on that for professional reasons—it's nothing negative, I just want to make sure I stay objective in public forums.
crimsongull20 crimsongull20 Active Member
84 messages
joined May 2004
#706 ·
Betty Edwards22 said:You guys actually asked me PRIVATELY where I work—so much for respect and keeping private details out of the public eye...
Case closed...

Publicly leaking private messages is rude, regardless of the circumstances, and it's strictly against the rules here.
Jesse Sanchez90 Jesse Sanchez90 Active Member
66 messages
joined Feb 2013
#707 ·
crimsongull20 said:Publicly sharing the contents of private messages is rude regardless of the circumstances, and frankly, it isn't allowed here.

I hear you, but then how are we supposed to categorize these claims where my workplace is being explicitly and indirectly called out—even though I haven't mentioned it publicly anywhere recently?

The claim:
"What’s the reason behind this dirty insinuation and setup? Trying to discredit the competition?!

Since I've spent most of my life struggling with sinus issues and have seen plenty of ENT specialists before him, I can use that experience to judge the difference in approach, specifically regarding his treatment compared to others who didn't even bother with proper diagnostics, let alone actual care—including the folks over at the Vineyard, where the peak of their therapy was just some nasal drops, though they did try with the diagnosis. I hope things are better there today."

Since questions about privacy are being directed at me regarding data shared via PM—which clearly and indirectly implies an affiliation and a defense—I’m asking for a public response. I also want to point out that while I could unofficially write glowing tributes to my recently mentioned colleague, I won't, because that would be unethical, even though from my perspective, I could describe his work much more effectively through direct observation of his procedures.

Secondly, labeling an entire institution without naming the specific doctor, while simultaneously glorifying another by using their full name, is highly questionable. This isn't just about what jumps to mind first; it's about the much more important issue of personal accountability for medical decisions. To put it bluntly: there is a massive difference between being treated by a resident and being treated by a seasoned expert. None of the unconscious actors in this story need this kind of forum drama, which is why I felt the need to step in.
crimsongull20 crimsongull20 Active Member
84 messages
joined May 2004
#708 ·
First off, being rude and breaking the rules isn't excused just because someone else did it. Private messages stay private. Period.

Second, doctors perform public service. Patients have every right to comment on it, and others have every right to debunk what's said. Whether a reader believes a claim or not is entirely up to their own judgment... Both sides get heard, and both sides earn their keep. I work in a public-facing role myself, and it wouldn't even cross my mind to react like this if someone were trashing my employer here.

Third, since you didn't actually identify yourself as an employee of this entire hospital system, most people wouldn't even notice or make the connection. At least I didn't. Based on the quote you provided, there’s absolutely nothing indicating who you are.

Fourth—and this is purely a coincidence: at that same hospital, on a completely different ward, my own health was compromised by incompetence. Out of seven injuries I sustained on that other unit, not one has been officially diagnosed... There's plenty of documentation to prove it. ☕
Jesse Sanchez90 Jesse Sanchez90 Active Member
66 messages
joined Feb 2013
#709 ·
Off topic in (unlike what was mentioned above):
I honestly don't have anything else to add, other than the fact that everyone knows what to say when someone starts throwing around claims that have absolutely nothing to do with me—anyone with half a brain would just let it go. Cheers.
Off topic out.
mistyjackal842 mistyjackal842 Active Member
206 messages
joined May 2012
#710 ·
So, there’s this doctor over at the Vineyard clinic who supposedly has a two-month waiting list and doesn't even need to advertise. I know one lady whose husband passed away from sinus cancer, and she had nothing but complaints about how he was treated there. I actually had surgery performed by this same doctor myself—nothing life-threatening, really—but during my last follow-up, he was just so incredibly rude. He snapped at me in a way that made me realize I would never, ever go back to him for a check-up again. In Chicago, thankfully, we have Mount Sinai as an alternative. My mother passed away very recently, and it was such a tragedy; she suffered so much at the Vineyard facility. About seven years ago, she was treated at Mount Sinai, and we never had a single issue there. From what I've seen, the doctors at Mount Sinai are much more experienced, highly skilled, and honestly, they just treat patients with far more respect. I don't even want to set foot in that Vineyard clinic anymore. I just hope we can somehow find justice regarding my mother's tragic passing, because for me and my father, that hospital simply doesn't exist anymore. Luckily, we do have other hospitals to turn to where we've never experienced anything as horrific as this tragedy with Mom.

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Maria Patel29 Maria Patel29 Newcomer
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joined Dec 2013
#711 ·
Hey everyone!
So, I’ve been feeling a little insecure about my nose lately. We all know how it goes—whenever we're having one of those rough days, we tend to hyper-focus on everything we dislike about ourselves, and whenever those days hit me, I just end up feeling really frustrated with my nose.😁
Everyone tells me that I definitely don't need surgery. My face shape is somewhere between oval and oblong (though I do have a pretty small head), and people say if I made my nose any smaller, I’d end up looking like a pug.🤣
Back in school, I dealt with a few comments about it, but honestly, I can't tell if they were actually about my nose or if they just picked up on it because I let it slip that it's a bit of an insecurity for me... 😢

I am seriously asking for your help here! I'm going to post some photos of my nose, and I would love it if you could just give me your honest opinion. I know I can count on getting the unfiltered truth here, since we're all in this together when it comes to nose discussions.
Thanks so much!

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P.s. sorry the photo quality isn't great.😢
crimsongull20 crimsongull20 Active Member
84 messages
joined May 2004
#712 ·
Maria Patel29, yours looks perfectly fine to me. Back in high school, I actually wanted surgery on mine—it was way more irregular than yours—but fast forward ten years and I haven't thought about it once... 😁

If I were you, I wouldn't touch it. Taking unnecessary risks for purely cosmetic reasons seems pointless. If there's an actual medical issue, that's a different story entirely.
Maria Patel29 Maria Patel29 Newcomer
8 messages
joined Dec 2013
#713 ·
crimsongull20 said:Maria Patel29, honestly, your nose is perfectly fine just the way it is. Back when I was in high school, I actually wanted to get mine done—it’s way more irregular than yours—but looking back ten years later, I haven't given the idea a second thought. 😁

If I were in your shoes, I wouldn't go through with the unnecessary risks of surgery. Purely from an aesthetic standpoint, you really don't need it, though if there are actual medical issues involved, that's a completely different conversation.

Well, my high school days are long gone too. I only mentioned that as an example because people used to comment on my nose back then, and I'll admit I let it show that it was a bit of an insecurity for me. I'm 23 now.
I don't have any health issues related to it.
Anyway, thank you so much for sharing your thoughts.😘
crimsongull20 crimsongull20 Active Member
84 messages
joined May 2004
#714 ·
Maria Patel29 said:My high school days are long gone too. I only mentioned it as an example because they used to pick on my nose back then, and I guess I did let them see it got to me. I'm 23 now.
No health issues here.
Anyway, thanks a ton for the input 😘

That's still pretty young. 🙂
The whole idea completely left my mind once I hit thirty, so you've still got time... 😁
Maria Patel29 Maria Patel29 Newcomer
8 messages
joined Dec 2013
#715 ·
crimsongull20 said:That’s still such a small window of time. 🙂
Personally, I completely moved past that idea right around the time I hit thirty, so you've definitely still got plenty of time left. 😁

I’m really hoping that thought just slips my mind too. That’s actually why I decided to reach out to everyone here on the Forum; I figured this was the best place to get a truly honest perspective.🙂

People aren't kidding when they say being a woman in your thirties is actually pretty great. You're still young enough to go out and have a blast, but you finally have enough maturity to actually know what you want out of life.
Jesse Sanchez90 Jesse Sanchez90 Active Member
66 messages
joined Feb 2013
#716 ·
Maria Patel29 said:My high school days are long behind me now. I only mentioned that era as an example because people used to pick on my nose back then, and I'll admit I let it get to me. I'm 23 years old now.
I don't have any health issues.
Anyway, thanks so much for sharing your thoughts, 😘

From my perspective, I honestly don't see anything that needs changing. A nose really needs to be looked at as part of the whole face—that's the only way it makes sense.
Ultimately, a healthy psychological approach to your question is to figure out for yourself what you’d actually want to change first, and then ask if that change even makes sense. That is essentially how plastic surgery works: you approach it by sharing your vision, expressing your desires, and then weighing the possibilities.
crimsongull20 crimsongull20 Active Member
84 messages
joined May 2004
#717 ·
Maria Patel29 said:People aren't just making things up when they say women in their thirties have it great. They're still young enough to enjoy life, but mature enough to actually know what they want.

Don't believe the hype. 😁

Most women in their thirties are just starting to drown in responsibilities, especially if they're juggling toddlers and a demanding career... you end up only thinking about survival.

Once you start wiping someone else's runny nose, you rarely have time to think about your own. Not that I was thinking about mine much before that anyway...
Maria Patel29 Maria Patel29 Newcomer
8 messages
joined Dec 2013
#718 ·
Betty Edwards22 said:From my perspective, I really don't see anything that needs changing. A nose only truly makes sense when you look at how it fits into the entire composition of the face.
Ultimately, I think the best psychological approach to your question is to figure out for yourself what you'd actually want to change, and then ask if that change even makes sense. That’s really the heart of plastic surgery—it’s about approaching those personal views, expressing what you desire, and then weighing up the possibilities.

So, my face is on the smaller side, falling somewhere between an oval and an elongated shape. I have pretty large eyes and lips that are just a normal thickness—not too thin, but not overly full either.
My nose isn't particularly small or large; it’s just a fairly average size for my features.
The only thing that slightly bothers me is that the tip dips down just a little bit (if you know what I mean😁), though honestly, maybe that's better than having one that sticks out too much when the profile is really emphasized.
Maria Patel29 Maria Patel29 Newcomer
8 messages
joined Dec 2013
#719 ·
crimsongull20 said:Don't take the bait from those ads. 😁

Women in their thirties usually start feeling the weight of all their responsibilities, especially if they're juggling little kids alongside a demanding career, so you eventually find yourself focusing on nothing but the absolute essentials.

Once you're busy wiping someone else's runny nose, you rarely get a chance to think about yourself. Though, to be honest, I probably forgot to look after my own needs even before that happened.

I actually picked this up from a friend's sister.😁
She told me that once she hit 30, she finally started learning how to actually enjoy life. Mind you, she isn't out there wiping anyone's nose but her own. 🤣
Nicholas Jones58 Nicholas Jones58 Newcomer
6 messages
joined Nov 2012
#720 ·
Hello everyone,
The time has finally come for my revision septorhinoplasty, and I am reaching out to anyone who has recently been admitted to the ENT department at Mount Sinai for some insight. I’m curious about what the admission procedure looks like lately and what the general atmosphere is like there. I have heard whispers that things feel a bit tense following the recent strikes—apparently, staff and patients alike are feeling a little more on edge due to the resulting backlogs. Generally speaking, what are your thoughts on the ward itself and the overall experience both before and after surgery? Does one typically wait a few days for the procedure, or does it usually happen the very next day? To be honest, I am placing a great deal of hope in this surgery and this hospital, which makes me feel an overwhelming sense of fear and uncertainty; this is a corrective procedure for a previous septorhinoplasty that left my nose in quite a bad state. Since I don't live in Chicago, I really need to coordinate my travel and make a solid plan regarding my family and other obligations. Thank you all so much. Best regards,

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