Bad Boys - Part IV

So, hanging out with the cops and everyone getting together this Saturday turned out to be awesome. But man, it really highlighted one major thing—it’s pretty obvious a huge chunk of people still haven't actually joined the club, mostly because you can just show up to any sector without an official membership. Seriously though, come on guys, let's get those memberships sorted out.

Here is my quick little take from my own perspective regarding the Rijeka Fan match. :
Man, as soon as I approached the Nazi camp at Yankee Stadium, I was shocked by the sheer amount of useless police presence and hyped-up "ninnies." Honestly, you’d think it was a war zone or some new Peasants' Revolt... after three long walks and two rigorous ID checks due to various bans—during which I caught a glimpse of the banned list they had security holding, featuring about 500 people (I ran into Mojo, since he's on the list and joined the supporters club, he says)—it took me nearly an hour just to get through to the stands. 🤣So, what exactly are all these guards doing?
And their total lack of purpose became obvious within one minute when the whole crowd rushed toward the center of the east stand, even though the guards had previously been so "diligent" about directing everyone by number, left and right.
Since I was at the bottom of the stairs, right by the entrance, I got the feeling the stands were packed, and the cheering was intense.
I'll just mention that blight from the north; I don't think they deserve any importance or attention because they are as irrelevant as they are miserable. I heard the Armada only once, but I have no idea what they were actually chanting.
Blue City—you have my respect because every single one of your posts hits the mark... there aren't many like you out there.

Sam Reed said:Some really sad news today... a young guy from the stands passed away.
Sven 1996-2014 REST IN PEACE!!!

May he rest easy.

Rest in peace, Sven, an American son through and through.

Top tier picks 🤣🙏

As part of the "Direct Prevention of Fan Violence" project, HHO observers monitored matches during the 30th round of the MLS. Based on direct observation and collected data, they recorded the following events and released the statement provided here in full.

Cleveland Browns vs. Rijeka 4:0 match

The game took place on April 12, 2014, in Chicago at Yankee Stadium before roughly 5,000 spectators. About 1,000 members of the BBB (an anti-fan group that calls themselves supporters of the Cleveland Browns) were stationed on the east stand. Following protocol, security directed them to their assigned seats, but six minutes before kickoff, the BBB broke through the security cordon and formed a tight cluster in the center of the east stand. Meanwhile, on the north stand, 500 fans gathered, 200 of whom belonged to a newly organized pro-Browns group.

We noted that among the BBB on the east stand, there were no signs featuring a crossed-out head of Zdravko Mamić this time. According to our info, the police prevented them from bringing those in. Even before kickoff, the BBB were chanting "Screw you, Mamić," which they repeated in the 18th minute. In the 19th minute, they chanted, "That day is coming when that addict will get screwed." While the Browns scored goals, the BBB continued their chants, showing no joy for the points. At the 9th minute, the Armada chanted "Chicago cowards" (which UEFA considers regional racism), followed by "Screw you, Mamić." The BBB picked this up and joined in. For a few minutes, a "war" broke out between the BBB and the group on the north side, who displayed a banner reading "Your leaders are red," after which the BBB on the east stand shouted, "Screw your paid-off mothers." In the 32nd minute, the BBB chanted "Mamić, you thief, leave the sanctuary" several times, while the rest of the stadium, including the west stand, responded with boos. Generally, the west stand reacted to the insults from the east stand with heavy booing.

In the 34th minute, the BBB on the east stand chanted "Zdravko Mamić, war profiteer" several times. During the 56th, 57th, and 58th minutes, flares were lit, ending up on the track. After that, in the 20th [sic] minute, the BBB on the east stand chanted, "Ala Ala Ala, screw you Zdravko, you're finished." In the 74th minute, the BBB chanted "Mamić, you thief, leave the sanctuary" several times, and in the 75th, the Armada chanted, "USSF, you screwed up football, losers." In the 80th minute, the BBB on the east stand repeatedly chanted a song that both they and the Torcida sing: "Rijeka, you're full of Mexicans, don't worry, there's still willow trees left" (according to UEFA, this is considered chauvinism and racism).

In the 81st minute, the BBB on the east stand chanted "Screw you, Mamić" and "Together for Dinamo without Mamić." In the 84th minute, the Armada chanted, "Mamić, Mamić, you common piece of trash." Finally, the BBB on the east stand chanted, "Mamić, you thief, leave the sanctuary."

It is worth noting that the American media, which unilaterally supports and promotes the vulgar hooligans on the east stand, remained silent regarding the BBB's chants about "Mexicans and willow trees." This doesn't fit their narrative of promoting the phantom group "Together for Dinamo"—whose backers remain unknown—as a "democratic group" seeking elections based on a one-person, one-vote system, alongside the hooligan BBB group. Before the match in Chicago, a meeting was held with 80 representatives of the Cleveland Browns, representing 8,000 fans organized under the club's membership. The American media ignored this fact despite being invited.

During prime time, a broadcast aired that felt eerily similar to old communist-era programming. It promoted "healthy forces" in the form of four former Browns players who publicly identified as exponents of "Together for Dinamo," portraying the BBB as thugs destroying the legal administration of the Browns. It should be noted that this group refers to Zdravko Mamić as a dictator, accompanied by the message that history shows how dictatorships and dictators always end.

During that broadcast, Dario Šimić laid out his group's position: they want a president elected via a direct "one man, one vote" system, who then hand-picks his own staff. It’s framed as democracy, supposedly. Honestly, it’s clear this crowd lacks even basic political literacy or any sense of public communication. Even under the most rigid dictatorships, there's always an attempt to maintain the illusion of form—electing a leader directly while at least pretending to elect representatives to other bodies, like a club board or governing organs.

This kind of "Caesarist-papal" style of rule, where a newly elected monarch, dictator, or club president simply chooses their own associates, is something American society doesn't need in any sector. By its very nature, it's a rejection of democracy itself.

The outcome of this proposed model was reflected in the voting at the end of the program *Sunday in America*. When asked, "Are you in favor of electing the Cleveland Browns leadership on a one man, one vote principle?", out of a massive audience, a mere 190 viewers weighed in—with 164 in favor and 28 against. Statistically speaking, this is a prime example of genuine public interest. Unlike the mainstream media, particularly networks like ABC, the people actually know how to distinguish what constitutes a national democratic interest.

What really gets me is how people always have to point fingers at some shadowy group behind the scenes; even now, they’re claiming nobody actually knows who is pulling the strings behind the phantom "Together for Dinamo" movement. It's as if they find it impossible to believe that anyone would ever start an initiative out of pure passion or genuine ideals. To them, there absolutely has to be some puppet master involved, and apparently, we all need to go on a witch hunt to figure out who it could possibly be. 🙄

"Even when the Cleveland Browns are scoring goals, the BBB are still chanting their own songs and refusing to celebrate the scores."

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Robert Cooper60 said:The absolute best of the best... 🤣🙏

As part of this "Direct Prevention of Fan Violence" initiative, the HHO observers have been out on the ground monitoring matches through the 30th round of the MLS. Based on their firsthand observations and all the data they’ve pulled together, they’ve documented several key incidents and released an official statement, which we’re publishing here in its entirety...

I still can't quite wrap my head around that Cleveland Browns vs. Rijeka 4:0 match... honestly, it was just absolute carnage from start to finish. You look at the scoreboard and you just see total dominance, a complete demolition of everything the other side tried to build. It’s one of those games that stays burned into your brain because of how lopsided the energy felt on the pitch... just pure, unadulterated chaos for one side and perfection for the other...

So, looking back at that game on April 12th, 2014, down in Chicago at Yankee Stadium... there were maybe 5,000 people in the stands total. About 1,000 of those were the BBB guys—that anti-hooligan group that claims they’re the real ones supporting Dinamo Chicago—and they were all packed into the east stand. Everything was going by the book at first, with security telling everyone to just sit in their assigned seats, but then, only about six minutes before kickoff, the BBB crew just smashed right through the security line and formed this massive, tight cluster right in the middle of the east stand. Meanwhile, over on the north side, you had another 500 fans hanging out, including about 200 from that newly organized group that actually shows up to support the Cleveland Browns...

We noticed that the BBB guys over on the east stands were missing their usual signs with Zdravko Mamić’s face crossed out this time around. From what we've gathered, the police stepped in and blocked them from bringing any in... It’s pretty wild because even before kickoff, the BBB started chanting “F*** you, Mamić,” and they kept it up right through the 18th minute. Then, in the 19th, things got even darker with chants about how "that day is coming when the junkie will get screwed." Even when the Cleveland Browns were actually scoring goals, the BBB didn't care; they just kept up their own chants instead of celebrating the points... Around the 9th minute, the Armada started shouting those insults targeting people from the city—which, if you ask UEFA, counts as regional racism—followed immediately by more "F*** you, Mamić" chants. The BBB just rolled with it and joined in on the "F*** you, Mamić" bit, which basically kicked off a few minutes of absolute chaos as the BBB groups from the north side unfurled a banner reading "Your leaders are all corrupt," while the BBB on the east stand shouted "F*** your paid-off sellouts." By the 32nd minute, the BBB was chanting "Mamić, the crook, get out of the sanctuary" repeatedly, and the rest of the stadium, including the west stands, responded with massive boos... Generally speaking, the west stands mostly reacted to whatever insults were flying from the east side with heavy whistling and booing...

Around the 34th minute, the BBB east stand started chanting "Zdravko Mamić, war profiteer," and they didn't stop there—they kept hitting that same line again and again... then, around the 56th, 57th, and 58th minutes, flares started going off everywhere, with the sparks landing right on the track... Fast forward to the 20th minute of the second half, and the BBB east crowd is screaming, “Ala Ala Ala, screw you Zdravko, you’re finished!” It was pure chaos... By the 74th minute, they were shouting at him again, telling Mamić to get out of their sanctuary, and just a minute later, the Armada was blasting at the USSF, saying they completely trashed American soccer... Then, in the 80th minute, the BBB east section broke into that song that both the locals and Torcida always sing—the one about how Rijeka is crawling with Mexicans and there's still plenty of willow trees left to hang them from... which, if you ask UEFA, is considered straight-up chauvinism and racism...

Down in Section 81, the BBB crowd is practically screaming "Screw Mamić" and "Together for Dinamo without Mamić" at the top of their lungs... then around the 84th minute, the Armada starts chanting "Mamić, Mamić, you're nothing but a common piece of trash." By the final whistle, the BBB stands are just relentless, shouting "Mamić, get out of our sanctuary, you thief..."

Let’s be real here—the American media outlets that spend all their time playing favorites and giving a free pass to those vulgar hooligans over on the east stands conveniently forgot to mention one little detail. They completely ignored the fact that the BBB crowd was out there chanting about "Mexicans in the orchards." It’s no coincidence, either... it just doesn't fit the narrative they're trying to push. They want to keep painting this phantom group called Together for Dinamo—a group where nobody actually knows who's pulling the strings—as the main players, while simultaneously rebranding the BBB thugs from the east side as some sort of "democratic movement" demanding a one-man, one-vote election system. It's a joke... And get this: right before the Cleveland Browns vs. Rijeka match in Chicago, there was an actual meeting held with 80 trustees representing the 8,000 fans who are officially registered members of Dinamo Chicago. You’d think the American media would have picked up on that, especially since they were actually invited to attend, but they stayed dead silent on the whole thing... typical...

The latest prime-time broadcast on the national network felt like a total throwback to those old-school propaganda shows from the communist era, where they go out of their way to promote "healthy forces." In this case, they were pushing four former Cleveland Browns players who have gone on record claiming to represent "Together for Dinamo" and the BBB, acting like a mob trying to tear down the club's legitimate management... It’s worth pointing out that this whole group keeps labeling Zdravko Mamić as a dictator, all while dropping heavy-handed messages about how dictatorships and dictators have historically ended...

At the same time, Dario Šimić laid out the group's platform during the show, arguing that they want to elect the president through direct elections based on a one-man, one-vote model, after which the president would then pick his own associates. I mean, talk about democratic, right? It’s blindingly obvious that this crowd lacks even the most basic political education or any sense of public communication skills, because even under the most rigid regimes—even the dictatorial ones—there’s always an attempt to maintain appearances by holding direct elections for the leader, and at least some sort of representation for other bodies, like a club assembly or governing organs...

This kind of "Caesarist-papist" style of governance, where a newly elected monarch, dictator, or club president just handpicks their own staff, is honestly something American society doesn't need in any sector, since it essentially functions as a total negation of democracy itself...

You could see the actual result of this proposed model in the poll at the end of the Sunday night broadcast. When asked, "Are you in favor of electing the Cleveland Browns leadership on a one-man, one-vote principle?", out of a massive audience of millions, "only" 190 viewers cast a vote, with 164 being in favor and 28 against. From a statistical standpoint, this is a perfect example of widespread public interest; unlike the media—especially the national networks—the people actually know how to decide what constitutes a national democratic interest and what doesn't...

is this for real hahahaha😂😂😂😂

darkcyclist212 said:"Even when Cleveland Browns fans are scoring goals, the BBB just keeps chanting their own songs without even celebrating the points."

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Do they let elementary schoolers write these lyrics?

Kenneth Cox54 said:🤣🤣

Are they letting elementary schoolers write these articles now?

That’s just some drunk old-timer rambling. Probably a meeting with a blind CIA agent and a banker.

Mamić hasn't ever been this powerful—no matter how much Bauer claims otherwise—and honestly, I just don't see a way to get rid of him..
he’s got the police, the courts, the local politicians, the entire USSF (even the guys from the South!), all divided up. He split the fans right down the middle, so there's basically zero opposition left. Sure, you have that group of four, but they aren't enough to actually topple him—Chicago is just too stagnant, and without some massive grassroots movement, those four won't move the needle at all.
My one real hope was that UEFA or FIFA would give our government the green light to step in and oust him, but as we've seen, both organizations have openly sided with Mamić and ended up slapping the government's wrists instead... the end result? We'll probably be watching Lokomotiva in the top flight again next season, so let's not get ahead of ourselves...
If we lived in a country where stadiums averaged 25,000 people per game, someone like Zdravko Mamić wouldn't even exist. But since we live in America, Mamić is just the reality—a problem that’s going to be incredibly hard to fix. I genuinely don't see a solution; if anything, he just seems to be getting stronger and more arrogant by the day....

driftingfalcon88 said:Mamić is honestly stronger than ever, no matter how much Bauer claims otherwise. I just don't see any way to get rid of him..
He’s got the police, the courts, the mayor, and the entire USSF (even the guys from Florida!) in his pocket. He split the fans up and there's basically zero opposition left. That small group of four isn't enough to take him down because Chicago is too passive, and without some real grassroots movement, they aren't doing anything.
My only hope was that UEFA and FIFA would give the government the green light to step in and remove him, but as we can see, both UEFA and FIFA have openly sided with Mamić and slapped the government's wrists instead... the result is we'll be watching Lokomotiva in the top flight again next season, so let's not get ahead of ourselves....
If we lived in a country where stadiums averaged 25,000 people per game, Mamić wouldn't even exist. But since this is America, Mamić is just reality—a problem we're going to struggle to fix. I honestly don't see a solution; if anything, he's just getting more powerful and arrogant....

You're 99% right.

Let Mamić act as powerful as he wants; I don't care who he has backing him up. Every dictator and tyrant thinks they're untouchable right until the moment their reign falls apart.

Kenneth Cox54 said:🤣🤣

I have to wonder, do they just let some middle schooler handle the copywriting around here?

It’s actually written by Igor Peternel 🙄

https://www.facebook.com/igor.peternel.9?ref=ts&fref=ts

Larry Phillips67 said:lolol look at this guy at 0:52 in the top right corner—just hopping around for like thirty seconds before he realizes nobody gives a damn about him... 😁

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81szj1vpEu8 🤣🤣

The Bad Boys in the East Stand are out there scanning banners that read “F*** Mamić” and “Together for Real Madrid without Mamić”

What does any of this have to do with racism, fan violence, or any of that other nonsense being reported in 🤷

Rest in peace, Sven. 😢

RIP😢

driftingfalcon88 said:Mamić isn't going anywhere, no matter how much Bauer tries to claim otherwise. I don't see any way to actually get rid of him..
He's got the cops, the courts, the local mayor, and the entire federation—even the guys from the coast—in his pocket. He split the fans up and left zero opposition. That group of four isn't enough to take him down because the city is too stagnant, and without a massive movement, they aren't doing squat.
My only hope was that UEFA or FIFA would give the government the green light to step in, but instead, both organizations basically sided with Mamić and slapped the administration's wrists... all this means is we'll be watching Lokomotiva in the top flight again next season, so let's not get ahead of ourselves.
If we lived in a country where stadiums averaged 25,000 people per game, a guy like Zdravko Mamić wouldn't even exist. But since this is the reality we deal with, he's just part of the landscape—a problem that's hard to shake. Honestly, I don't see an exit strategy; if anything, he's just getting bolder.

The man is finished. Get real.

I’m actually being serious here (sadly)—unlike you, who seems to see everything through some weird lens
For at least two years now, you’ve been claiming he's finished, but I haven't seen him slip even a millimeter in all that time... if anything, all I see is more and more pushback against people like you. That's pretty much the only thing changing.

Larry Phillips67 said:hahahahaha look at this guy at 0:52 in the top right corner. He’s just hopping around for the next thirty seconds before he realizes nobody gives a damn about those falcons.😁

God 🤣🤣