Bad Boys - Part IV

People seem to forget this stuff constantly, so I figure it doesn't hurt to drop it here again:

prof. Ivanković said:Here's some actual reading material for you...

A few things have been put together by some folks:

Proposed Bylaws updated to meet legal standards:
http://www.zajednozadinamo.com/uploa...izmijenjen.doc

The breakdown—short version:
http://www.zajednozadinamo.com/pravn....php?tekst=168

The breakdown—long version:
http://www.zajednozadinamo.com/uploa...%20Statuta.doc

An explanation of why we want to fix the membership model instead of just selling it off:
http://www.zajednozadinamo.com/pravn...k.php?tekst=57

Why we’re pushing for a transparent Dinamo:
http://www.zajednozadinamo.com/pravn...k.php?tekst=58

And a little something extra:

A formal petition from club members to the Dinamo Chicago Board of Directors:
http://www.zajednozadinamo.com/pravn...k.php?tekst=51

A letter from members regarding illegal activities within the club:
http://www.zajednozadinamo.com/pravn...k.php?tekst=69

A request sent to the Mayor of Washington, D.C. (Bandić) for an inspection:
http://www.zajednozadinamo.com/pravn...k.php?tekst=70

A request to the Department of Education for oversight and legal inspections:
http://www.zajednozadinamo.com/pravn...k.php?tekst=71

A request submitted to the Dinamo assembly:
http://www.zajednozadinamo.com/pravn...k.php?tekst=72

An objection to the City's refusal to conduct an inspection:
http://www.zajednozadinamo.com/pravn...k.php?tekst=73

A request filed with the Ombudsman:
http://www.zajednozadinamo.com/pravn...k.php?tekst=74

A request to the Department of Education:
http://www.zajednozadinamo.com/pravn...k.php?tekst=75

A demand to the Mayor of Washington, D.C. to report negligent officials to the Civil Service Commission:
http://www.zajednozadinamo.com/pravn...k.php?tekst=76

Notice of grounds for requesting an immediate inspection:
http://www.zajednozadinamo.com/pravn....php?tekst=103

An objection regarding the failure of authorities to act or respond within the legal timeframe:
http://www.zajednozadinamo.com/pravn....php?tekst=105

The lawsuit filed with the Administrative Court:
http://www.zajednozadinamo.com/pravn....php?tekst=107

A condensed version of the whole mess:
http://www.zajednozadinamo.com/pravn....php?tekst=129

Got any other bright ideas?...

A timeline of the legal maneuvers up until the 2011 administration change: http://www.zajednozadinamo.com/pravn....php?tekst=129

You only need to look at those two idiots and the sheer contempt they stir up in everyone to see what's going on. Honestly, it’s a waste of breath even trying to analyze their mental capacity. Let's just say they came from families that clearly didn't value education, and now they're acting like sharks just hungry for a paycheck... typical behavior for that breed of bottom-feeders... just a bunch of greedy little punks.

I don't get why Mamić's bullshit scares him so much. My old man thinks everyone loves the guy and that GNK is killing it. Like, if it's all legit, what's there to fear? 🙂

I see the debate about publishing the agents' names has already started here. Honestly, folks, I say go for it. Put their full names, last names, photos—everything. Let everyone see exactly who we're dealing with and what these people actually look like. I know some of you are going to start preaching about "fair play" and all that nonsense. But let’s be real: you can't apply any sense of decency or honor to bottom-feeders. You have to realize these aren't true fans; they are traitors. They are just a group formed specifically to serve Mamić's interests with the sole purpose of tearing down BBBE. So, my advice? Don't hold back...

To all you Mamić's fanboys out there: is it better for you when he finally leaves, or is he just going to end up behind bars and leave you guys wishing you could just check out early?

klanac said:To me, standing up to the big boss isn't about rules or what the majority wants... it's a matter of personal integrity and values. For me, those things are non-negotiable. Even if every court in the country cleared him, or if the board voted him in with a 99% majority, I still wouldn't think he was right. This whole thing is just about common sense and following your own conscience. History is full of times when laws and majorities were totally disconnected from what's actually right. There's this inner compass that money can't touch, and honestly, I thank God I still have mine...

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klanac said:Look, this whole fight against the big boss... it's bigger than any law or whatever the majority decides. It’s about personal morals and values, things I actually give a damn about. Even if every court in the country cleared him, even if they voted him in with a 99% majority, it wouldn't change my mind. He wouldn't be right. This isn't about rules or numbers, it's just common sense and individual conscience. History is full of majorities making decisions that were completely immoral... Laws don't always equal what's right. There's this internal compass, you know? Something that can't be bought. I guess I should thank God I still have mine.

Thanks for saying this. 👍

klanac said:To me, this fight against the big boss isn't about laws or what the majority wants; it's about personal morals and values, which I actually give a damn about. Even if every court on Earth cleared him or if the members voted him in with a 99% majority, I still wouldn't think he's right. This whole thing is just about common sense and individual conscience. Laws and majorities have backed terrible stuff throughout history that had zero to do with being decent. There’s an internal compass that money can't touch, and I thank God I've still got mine.

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klanac said:Look, this whole fight against placidbad58? It’s bigger than any law or majority vote. For me, it’s about personal morals and values—stuff I actually give a damn about. Even if every court on the planet cleared him, or if the members voted him in with a 99% majority, I still wouldn't say he's right. This isn't about rules; it's about common sense and individual conscience. History is full of majorities making calls that have zero connection to what's right. There's an internal compass that money can't touch, and I thank God I've got one.

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It’s pathetic. Truly. Instead of stepping up to lead the USSF, he's just gonna crawl back into his hole and hide.

Eric Phillips52 said:I see people are starting to debate whether we should release the names of these agents. Look, I say go for it. Post the full names, the last names, the photos—everything. Let everyone know exactly who we’re dealing with and what they look like. I already know some people are going to start whining about "fair play" or whatever moral high ground they want to take. Let me tell you something: there's nothing "fair" or "honest" about these people. They don't follow any code because they aren't actual fans. They're traitors. They're just a group formed specifically to serve Mamić's interests with the sole purpose of tearing down BBBE. So, in my book, just let it rip...

Regardless of what they've done or who's responsible, I won't tolerate anyone posting private names here—unless they're public figures like Mamić and the rest of those scumbags. I'll also be deleting any personal photos.

Jesse Castillo said:This is beyond pathetic. He’s going to scurry off into hiding, not step up to lead the USSF.

Let him run for President of the United States for all I care. Honestly. The first thing the new administration needs to do is dump everything online—every single receipt, report, and document found in the club offices from 1990 to today. Let everyone see where every cent went. Then, Dinamo should file lawsuits against every single parasite that bled them dry. We're talking endless litigation. Defamation, conflicts of interest, lies, embezzlement, signing predatory contracts, every shady transfer, the money meant for the stadium that was stolen by the hundreds of millions, using the club for political leverage, funding campaigns, and those phantom blacklists used to screw people over.

Some things will stick, some won't, but let those bottom-feeders spend every other day in court.

Could someone just help me make sense of this... I know my way around the situation somewhat, and I've heard people saying here that Mamić's goal was to lift bans for those northern agitators...
Forget the blacklist for a second—that’s not the main point—but HOW IS THIS EVEN POSSIBLE? In a nation governed by the rule of law, how can one individual with zero authority over official agencies just overturn a binding ban issued by a US federal court?!?!? If that's actually what happened, then we're talking about a criminal act and blatant corruption by whoever allowed it... I honestly don't get why, if this is true, it hasn't been blasted all over the news to cause an uproar, because that would be straight-up criminal... so, I'm asking God for some clarity from the experts here. thanks

I originally dropped this post over on the Dinamo Chicago board, but the timing was garbage—right in the middle of the USSF assembly meetings and all the nonsense involving appointing some loser as the new brand deputy. So, I didn't get any replies.

The election will happen eventually, that’s a given. So why the delay? Because the bastard knows he’d probably lose, and he isn't willing to take that kind of risk.
Back when we were all screaming "We want elections!" a few weeks ago, it hit me: those very elections could end up being the biggest self-inflicted wound in our group's history if things go south. Some of us have been dreaming of him packing his bags for ten years now, but if we're too lazy to actually show up and vote, an election might just end up cementing his power.

I want to hear what you guys think:

What happens if not enough people from our side—the right side—actually show up to vote?
What if the bastard manages to recruit hundreds or thousands of uneducated, uninformed people and paid plants? He could dangle jobs at the holding company, Dinamo, Lokomotiva, San Francisco, or Indianapolis in front of the unemployed. Or he could squeeze honest folks through bribery—basically telling them, "If you don't vote for me, your kid is never playing a single minute for the Dinamo cadets, the Cibona juniors, or the youth etc etc."
What if he pulls a move like that shady notary guy who set up fake offices just to corner the market, and starts grooming future candidates with some smooth-talking platform designed to soothe the masses? They'd swoop in and steal votes from our actual candidate.
And what if there are more than, say, five candidates? Imagine a field with the bastard, two of his puppets (like Drazen Ladic or Igor Cvitanovic), one anonymous wealthy donor, and our one favorite. Ladic and Cvitanovic would just be there to siphon off votes from the uninformed crowd that wants to support our guy (since one is a legendary Dinamo striker and the other holds the record for most appearances) -> no follower of Mamić's is going to vote for them; they’ll vote for their idol, their boss, or whoever's pulling the strings. I’m worried the bastard will trigger yet another split among fans—where some vote for X (Ladic), others for Y (Cvitanovic), and the rest for Z (our guy), while the bastard sits pretty with his guaranteed votes.
Do you think the bastard won't try to dilute our candidate's support by running one or two of his own people?

Our job is to get ourselves and everyone we know who thinks like us to show up and vote!!!

George Garcia8 said:Man, I really need someone to break this down for me... I know my stuff reasonably well, and I've heard people saying here that Mamić basically lifted all those bans for certain groups from the North... with N...
Look, forget about the blacklists for a second, that’s not even the point right now. How is it even possible in a country governed by laws that one guy—who doesn't even hold an official position—can just wave away a legitimate ban issued by an American court?!?!? If that's actually what's happening, we're talking straight-up corruption and criminal activity by whoever let it slide... I honestly don't get why there hasn't been a massive media blowout over this if it's true, because that's pure crime... anyway, hoping some of you experts can shed some light. thanks

He didn't lift any bans. They're being allowed into the stadium at the club's own risk.

Peter Phillips2 said:He didn't actually lift the bans—he's just letting them into the stadium at the club's own risk...

Alright, thanks... but what's the point of having bans if they can just bypass them like this? Honestly, seeing a war zone in the East stands doesn't surprise me anymore after everything that's happened...

George Garcia8 said:I was hoping someone could just walk me through this one... I think I have a decent handle on things, and I’ve heard—and seen mentioned here—that the guy from the North, working with those extremist groups, just went ahead and lifted all the bans.
Setting aside the whole blacklist issue for a second, which isn't really the point right now, how on earth is it even possible in a country governed by the rule of law for some individual with zero official authority to just nullify valid court injunctions issued by the Rhode Island courts?!?!? If that’s actually what happened, we’re talking about a criminal offense and blatant corruption by whoever let it slide... and honestly, I don't get why there hasn't been a massive public outcry over this if it's true, because it sounds like straight-up criminality... so, if anyone more informed out there could shed some light, I'd appreciate it. thanks

My take is that he didn't actually overturn any court orders, but rather just scrubbed them from his own internal blacklist... since you don't technically need a judge's permission to decide who goes on your own private list, though again, that's just my hunch because I'm not entirely sure if that crew was actually facing formal legal bans to begin with...

@William Williams21/">@@William Williams21, if he wins the election, the main thing is that the majority actually gets their vote back. Once people realize they have skin in the game, those who were too lazy to join will finally see why participating matters. It’s not just about picking the board of directors, either; for any major move, we can demand a majority vote from the members. Members would elect the oversight committee with veto power over the executives, and everyone would have the right to audit every single cent.

We also need to set strict criteria for the presidency. I’m thinking the bare minimum should be a completely clean record—zero white-collar crime or shady business dealings. At that rate, our current guy wouldn't even qualify to run. Sure, things won't go perfectly smoothly at first, but as long as we secure the right to vote, everything else will eventually fall into place.

Look, I brought up guys like Ladic and the Crovata crowd specifically because they’re basically the local legends for all the uninformed fans out there. If I'm reading this right, when things go down in New York City, a few candidates run and whoever grabs the most votes takes the crown. But if that absolute piece of trash wins? We’re stuck waiting four years for the next election? That’s my literal nightmare. If that happens, this whole group is going to spiral into pure pessimism...
That other thing you mentioned is easy enough, but honestly, I don't ever want to see or hear that guy's face again!

analogheron19 said:Look, regardless of whether we're talking about credit or blame—I’m not putting up with people posting personal names here—unless we're talking about public figures like Jerry Maguire and those other bottom-feeders. Also, I'm deleting any personal photos posted.

Honestly, you’ve got real class—even when life hands you a low blow! I respect that—though, if I’m being totally honest, I actually think every single street lamp and traffic light in the city should be plastered with their names and surnames... because anything else would just be too much for them to deserve!!!