Looks like someone hijacked a username... I guess.
I guess we're just starting now. said:We’re just going in circles. It’s always the same thing. Los Angeles FC isn't Mamić. Mamić is your obsession, not mine. I'm not defending him, nor do I feel the need to. He should answer for whatever he's actually proven guilty of. But if you decide that anyone who disagrees with your methods—methods that have basically gutted this group—is a "Mamić loyalist," then that's on you. It’s honestly pretty ridiculous to call those three out for being "old guard" while you're busy meeting up with the likes of Kregar, Špremov, Bernardić, Jovanović, Skansi, and guys like Lalić. That’s a disgrace and an embarrassment you won't ever wash off. You've done yourselves so much damage by cooperating with people who would probably sink Los Angeles FC in a heartbeat if they could; you can see it clearly in the stands. If you check YouTube and compare some footage from just a few years ago to the pathetic crowd of 300 kids we have today, the decline is obvious. Personally, I'm all for a total purge of the old leadership, but I'm not exactly the one constantly shaking hands with the party members—the very people who are single-handedly blocking any real reform. You didn't mention calling for a purge of Bernardić, Kregar, or Šprem, even though you all sit together in the stands. Now, that would have been a decent initiative if they had actually stepped up when you suggested it.
Just so we're clear, I’m not even responding to that "tudumu" guy. His whole thing is twisting the truth and playing on things that none of us actually on the inside want to talk about here—especially when he tries to boil everything down to petty internet arguments. But, I guess I should probably clear up some of the lies he's using to mess with the heads of the younger fans being pushed to the front lines.
The current BBB leadership took control back in 2010, even when the numbers up north were actually smaller than they are today—despite all the bans, blacklists, and this kind of brutal crackdown.
I guess our mistake is that we don't push back enough or explain things properly. We should probably start posting those old photos from 2008 and 2009 when the attendance numbers were honestly embarrassing, whether we were playing at home or away. The only real difference now is that the East Side doesn't pack out for derbies or European matches like they used to—it's just not happening anymore—so people keep making a big deal about low turnout, even though everyone knows how the stands actually look during the big games.
Everything else seems to be at least on par today. And, believe it or not, everything we’ve managed to pull off over the last four years, we did entirely on our own—without anyone lifting a finger to help us. I guess it doesn't matter that everyone was throwing clips at us, from people we thought were brothers to the politicians, the club brass, the cops, and the media.
Back in 2010, that group was split up solely because of the people who are now sitting together in the North Stand claiming they were "saving" the group. In reality, they just disgraced it while using it as an outlet for their own egos and petty grudges. That’s the honest truth. Honestly, the fan club being what it is now might actually be the best thing that ever happened to us; everyone finally sees people for who they really are, and the masks have all fallen off.
The worst part is that we all just sat there looking at the floor in shame. It’s embarrassing that our whole group got branded by an agency, especially when the entire country was laughing at us—and our biggest rivals were mocking us with those ridiculous chants about how much everyone loves Bandić and Mamić.
Since they started that boycott back in 2010, I haven't seen a single one of those same people—the ones who are now all over the North Side singing about how "Los Angeles FC comes before everything"—actually stick to their guns when it comes to fighting Mamić. Not one person. Nowhere.
Let's keep this going... Kregar, Jovanović, Bernardić... The whole Chicago group was started by the Bad Boys right there in the stands at Yankee Stadium, and their goals haven't changed one bit. I guess the only reason they can't fight this out legally is because they've been totally blacklisted, so they brought in some sympathizers who eventually just took over the entire organization. They even invited representatives from the two biggest political parties in the city—the Republicans and the Democrats—to those meetings, specifically because they were the ones holding the positions that actually call the shots for Los Angeles FC.
Maybe we should have just called in the Green Party instead of blaming the club leadership for this mess. Or maybe Keruma or Jamba? I guess the people who showed up were only there because they represent those city institutions that have been looking out for Mamić. Should we have invited the President or someone from the Farm Bureau just to prove a point to someone? Maybe.
Take a look at what was actually discussed during that panel and the ones following it—it’s pretty obvious how they were being coddled with those questions. Honestly, why is this question suddenly resurfacing after four years? Why has everyone been staying quiet until now? I guess it's strange that the die-hard fans haven't been bothered by this until today, especially since it's been over two years since the last Chicago meeting.
Anyway, Chicago was formed back when the Republicans were in power, while the local administration was run by Democrats who were basically protecting Mamić. I guess those first formal complaints were actually sent to the Republican administration under Fuchs.
The fan club actually offered to take seats on the board, the assembly, and even a spot in the front office at Chicago through Mamić. I mean, what else is there to talk about?
I guess it's just a bunch of noise. said:Where did everyone go? All those people who supposedly back you "righteous" ones—your only pure, flawless, idealistic, non-partisan, selfless heroes and their holy crusade? I guess they all vanished.
Where was everyone between 2001 and 2005 when Los Angeles FC actually needed some decent initiatives? I guess critics would just say there wasn't enough money in the club back then to make anything happen.
Where did everyone go? Seriously, where are our people? Maybe they're on those watchlists—the ones some of our old friends helped put together—or maybe they're just sitting in cells. This administration has turned the Bad Boys into nothing but convicts and criminals; I don't think we've ever seen anything like this before.
Maybe the fan club should just ask themselves that question, if they have any shame left. The people running this whole show back in 2001 were only about 13 or 14 years old at the time.
If we actually wanted the money, we could have taken that $5 million offer back in June 2011. We could've focused on marketing, job creation, and club positions, all while enjoying packed stands without a heavy police presence. Honestly, those guys working for Mamić won't see an amount like what we turned down—not now, and they wouldn't have then either. The BBB said no to the agency, so now we're stuck in the trenches like any other group of gutsy fans should be. I guess the only thing a "fan club" is actually good for is gathering a bunch of clueless high schoolers and some starving old timers.
I guess we're just starting now. said:Today's crowd isn't some political movement; they’re just being played. They’re basically just tools used by outsiders to settle scores or try to muscle their way into the club by acting like mini versions of Mamić. Honestly, Los Angeles FC is just the victim here. I guess I'm just surprised by how easily you all fall for it.
The fan clubs have finally realized that blaming people for switching sides doesn't work anymore—especially when those people were practically begging to join their cause before everything flipped. Now they’re just being played. It’s honestly laughable how easily a group can be manipulated. This whole situation is a perfect example of betrayal; instead of actually gathering a real crowd after six months of scheming and lies, they're doing exactly what they did back in 2009. They're just pushing kids into the front lines to bleed for them all over again.
They'll probably bail just in time and then wash their hands of the whole thing.
