Bad Boys - Part IV

Hey there, to all the fans out there rooting for the Dodgers!

Ronald Hayes4 said:Look, both of us have been through a century of ups and downs, so you guys can go ahead and mess around over there 🤣
It’s a shame only one flare actually flew out (correct me if I missed any shots or didn't see them clearly).

About 4 or 5 of them made it... one right in the middle...

Here's some cash 😍top tier, as they say😁

driftingfalcon88 said:I guess you really have to stop and think about things when Mamić starts praising us and claiming everything is clean while he’s actually losing trophies, you know, you just have to wonder what's actually going on under the surface... damn.

It’s probably not even related to this thread, but I just had to post it somewhere.😉

Are you guys seriously getting worked up over this media manipulation and actually taking a guy like that seriously??

I don't get it, is this how you try to discredit us because it works in your favor or whatever the hell?
First off, those are just the words of someone who's basically burying American football, and besides, look at all the nonsense and lies he's spread online and through every news portal, yet as soon as he mentions us, you all swarm him like flies on trash.

He's a piece of work and honestly, nobody gives a damn about his opinion or his garbage and lies in the media; who knows what he's trying to achieve or why, but at the end of the day, who actually cares?
I mean, why don't you call out the crap from the local papers and all those shady outlets so easily, but the second Mamić mentions us, you're right there acting like you know everything.

We're all just caught in a mess together, but whatever, Mamić just made some comments to the press 🙄 🙄

goldenheron392 said:Are you people actually getting worked up over this media circus? Do you seriously take a "person" like that at face value??

I don't get it. Are you using this just to drag us down? Does it suit your agenda, or what the hell??
First off, those are the words of someone who is basically the undertaker of American Football. Second, look at his track record—all those lies and deceptions across every single news site. Yet, the moment he mentions us, you swarm him like flies on garbage.??

The man is trash. We couldn't care less about his opinion or his media bullshit. Who knows what his actual goal is, or why he's doing it, but honestly, who gives a damn?
Why don't you push back against the garbage coming from the morning shows, the evening news, and all those filthy outlets in this country? But the second Mamić mentions us, you're right there, acting like you know everything.

We're all stuck in this mess together, but whatever. Mamić made a comment about sports 🙄 🙄

We are just circling the drain with the same tired arguments. You have to accept that even casual fans of our league find the blatant cooperation between your board and the Head to be an eyesore. Having a full van of players isn't nothing, but I'm not going to get into a debate here.
Congrats on the trophy.

It’s honestly depressing watching all these wannabe ultras parrot Mamić's rhetoric, throwing out praise for San Francisco just so they can manufacture this illusion. They’re working hand-in-hand with paid media to make it look like San Francisco is part of the whole match-fixing and corruption circus, all just to drive a wedge between the fanbases. That’s exactly what Mamić wants—he does it by "gifting" players left and right. Look at Miskovic; he sees it through a purely capitalist lens, treating it like an honest day's work. It's like most people would jump at the chance to buy a used BMW for five grand tomorrow without ever looking at the bigger picture. And now, once the rumors start flying about a rigged Cup—which, let's be real, I'm convinced are coming straight from Mamić's inner circle—everyone loses their minds and starts citing it as proof. People actually end up believing Zdravko and his media puppets. To the big ultra groups, the word of those gravediggers of American football becomes gospel. What's next? Are we going to swallow the lie tomorrow that the Bad Boys are secretly backed by the Democrats, or that the guys from the East are run by shady agents while the North kids are fueled by pure ideals? Just more lies.

wildwest87

You jump from one thread to the next acting surprised when people believe what the haters of American football are saying. It’s not like we weren't all expecting this over the last few days. Everyone was busy spinning some fairytale narrative regardless of whether we actually won the trophy or not, so yeah, Mamić's rhetoric after the game caught us off guard.😕

Congrats on the cup!

I honestly don't buy the idea that the Armada doesn't get what's happening here. Out of those 3,000 thugs who showed up at Yankee Stadium, you guys represent maybe 300 of them—and even that’s being generous—but out of those 300, not one person seems to grasp the situation or feel like they're being played... The league and the cup are basically rigged from top to bottom, and things aren't going to change just because Mamić steps away for a little while before the money completely drains out of the sport. By celebrating like this, you're just giving legitimacy to the whole heist, and with all that genuine cheering, you look like nothing more than a herd of deer to everyone watching from the outside. You can't seriously be that naive, can you?

Besides, Dinamo just steamrolls through the entire season, only to trip up twice against San Francisco, yet we still call them the kings and the undertakers of American Football... and then we actually believe they might "accidentally" lose the cup? We need to pick a side and decide what we're actually standing for once and for all.

Robert Nelson43 I guess he's saying...
I guess maybe things just kind of go one way or another, you know? I don't know, it's all pretty much up in the air, I suppose.

I guess you're really jumping from one thread to the next and acting all surprised that people are buying into whatever those haters of American football are spinning, but I mean, wasn't this basically what we all expected over the last few days? We were all just sitting here talking about how great the story was going to be regardless of the actual score, so honestly, Mamić's whole speech after the game kind of caught us off guard, I suppose.😕

Huge congrats on the trophy, honestly!

I feel like you're just one of those people who hops from thread to thread just to talk trash about everyone, so I figured I should probably step in and give you a real, objective take on this since it’s my business too... if that's alright with you, I guess.

bluewalker92 said:It’s honestly depressing watching all these wannabe ultras parrot Mamić's rhetoric—throwing out statements and praise for San Francisco just to feed this narrative. They're working right alongside paid media to make it look like San Francisco is part of the match-fixing and corruption scandals, all just to stir up drama between fanbases... and that’s exactly what Mamić wants, especially with how he "hands out" players... Miško looks at this through a purely capitalist lens—just another honest day at the office. It’s like if most of us saw a BMW for five bucks tomorrow; we wouldn't even stop to look at the bigger picture. But now, when there's talk about a rigged Cup—which, let's be real, sounds like it came straight from Mamić's inner circle—everyone loses their minds and starts citing it as proof. People actually end up believing Zdravko and his media puppets. Hell, for the big ultra groups, those statements from the gravediggers of American football become gospel. What's next? Are we going to swallow the lie that the Bad Boys are secretly backed by the Democrats, or that the guys from the East are run by agents while the North boys are driven by pure ideals? Just more lies.

Sure, but what about the fact that Miško was the one who pulled the trigger on shutting down the top-tier association? Or how those gambling addicts and his branded monstrosity were immediately hand-picked by him? And don't forget he's one of the five most compliant guys on some newly formed HNS emergency committee that doesn't need anyone's approval to push through decisions.

If we're supposed to make excuses for a psychopath's outbursts, then facts shouldn't be up for debate.

People are coming for you because calling out the "HNS creeps" feels fake as long as Miško is standing right there among them, being treated like a god. I used to buy into the whole "it's just business" excuse myself, but after he started claiming Dinamo is the gold standard and that he learned from the best, everything became crystal clear. The only reason he isn't stepping up to defend Mamić publicly right now is because he knows you all hate him—but honestly? I think it's just a matter of time.

p.s. You really think all those players were clueless?

Just a bunch of irrelevant clowns.
They had the perfect opportunity during this Cup final to just blow everything up—to actually show where their loyalties lie and prove whether they’re real fans or just total jokes. Instead, they’re out there celebrating hand-in-hand with the HNS and Mamić like a couple of pathetic losers.
Enjoy your little Cup trophy. Congrats on the hardware and that lovely San Francisco fairy tale you've built.
Your "fan success" is about as impressive as when your whole group decided to cheer right alongside those gutter rats during that old Cup final years ago.

That piece of trash sent over a bunch of journeymen just to stir up more chaos at Hajduk, because he absolutely loathes them (especially after what happened with Males). That Cup was a total handout, though the San Francisco fans are the ones bragging about it, not really the Armada.
I don't think you guys get it—this guy wants to dismantle the entire American supporter scene, and he’s doing exactly that by letting you all bicker constantly. All this fighting creates a lack of unity, which is his ticket to a knockout blow. He played us, split us up, and turned us against each other; that whole mess with the journeyman players was just a distraction to trigger your mindless, stupid back-and-forth, while he couldn't care less about any other group.
At the end of the day, who won what doesn't matter when those trophies are worth about as much as a participation trophy a kid gets for running a little marathon.
The reason we're all annoyed by the Armada celebrating all this nonsense isn't because they started the fighting—it's because of you idiots. What matters is that we stay on the same side, and that side is against that trash and the HNS.
To the idiots whining about the Armada celebrating rigged games and handed-out Cups: direct that hatred toward that piece of trash and his family instead. We'll take care of the rest once he's kicked out of American football for good.

Matthew Foster8 said:just a bunch of irrelevant clowns.
They had this perfect shot during the Cup final to just blow everything up and show everyone where their loyalties actually lie—whether they’re true fans or just total jokes—but instead, they're out there celebrating right alongside the HNS and Mamić like they're nothing more than some pathetic losers.

I mean, seriously, can you please explain to me how you guys celebrated winning the Cup last year?

goldenheron392 said:You guys are the ones jumping from thread to thread just to talk trash to everyone. This time, you're poking around in my business, and honestly, I feel like I have a right to give you a real, straight answer. You got a problem with that?

Just a little food for thought:

It’s honestly kind of silly to say stuff like "I'm being objective" or "in my objective opinion" and all that.
Being truly objective is impossible, because that would imply you're thinking or speaking "from an object"
meaning, like, outside of yourself. And how can anyone even exist outside of themselves?
Saying a person is "objective" is just... it's nonsense.
At the end of the day, you can only ever be subjective when you think, speak, or act—it's always coming from your own subject, you know?
Do you see what I'm getting at?

I think all these complaints about the merchandise look pretty ridiculous when you realize they were celebrating this exact same purchase just a year ago.
Unless, of course, it wasn't given as a gift back then. 🤷🤷

Did management seriously just dump a whole bunch of benchwarmers on us 🤣—I love that phrase, by the way—to run the show? Is it Brubaker backing up Miller on the right, or is that Mike stepping in?

Matthew Foster8 said:just a bunch of nobodies.
They had the perfect shot during this Cup final to blow everything up and show where their loyalties actually lie—whether they're real fans or just clowns. Instead, they’re out there celebrating alongside the USSF and the league commissioner like total losers and sellouts.
Enjoy your little trophy. Congrats on the win and the whole pathetic hometown hero story.
It’s about as much of a "fan victory" as when you guys teamed up with those rival fans back in that old Cup final when you first got a real group together.

Just sharing my thoughts.

goldenheron392 said:Look, just walk me through it—how exactly did you guys celebrate winning the Cup last year?

We’re the only club in this entire country that isn't in bed with the federation. We decided a long time ago we'd rather be at the bottom of the table than play nice with the mob like you lot do.
Do you honestly think some big-shot commissioner handed us a trophy just because we're the one thorn in the side of the establishment?
We won our match and took home the Cup—all on our own terms. No handouts.
It's been us against the world for years now. You guys aren't rebels; you're just part of the machine.

Kenneth Ross7 said:it seems pretty ridiculous to listen to these complaints about the Bad Boys if you realize they were celebrating this exact same purchase just a year ago
unless it wasn't a gift back then 🤷🤷

Look, the Bad Boys are idiots, but we’re talking about an armada that still has a chance to turn things around before they go off the rails...

give me a break, this makes zero sense, everyone needs to get their act together and coordinate moves immediately, what is wrong with people on this site, are you guys actually sane?

Matthew Foster8 said:we’re basically the only club in America that isn't in bed with the federation. we decided we'd rather stay at the bottom of the table than play ball with the mob like you guys do.
i bet those big shots at the league office would just hand it to you on a silver platter since we're the only ones getting in their way.
we won our trophy all on our own, without any help.
it's been us against the world for years, while you lot are just playing house with the league officials.

I mean, obviously that first trophy was rigged, but this one was totally 😂 👍👍

Matthew Foster8 said:We’re the only club in America standing up against the federation. We chose to stay at the bottom of the table rather than play ball with the mob like you guys do.
Do you really think the commissioner just handed it to us? Or all those people who see our club as their biggest headache?
We won the match. We took the trophy. On our own terms.
We’ve been fighting everyone on our own for years. You haven't. You're just cozying up to the league and the brass.

What are you even talking about?
That trophy wasn't a handout any more or less than what I'm saying right now.
A little reality check wouldn't hurt.