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Grammy Awards 2012 (19th Annual Ceremony)

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Gary Patel Gary Patel Active MemberOP
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#1 ·
The Grammy Award—the most prestigious honor for musical achievement in the country—will be presented for the 19th time this year. Submissions for albums released between December 1, 2010, and November 30, 2011, wrapped up on January 6. The Recording Academy at Berklee College of Music finished logging all entries recently; labels have submitted a whopping 334 releases for the Grammy Awards 2012—that’s actually 38 more than last year!

With the number of submissions up, the pool for nominations has grown too: we're looking at 1,571 entries this year—a jump of 211 over 2011. Even the number of participating labels has climbed, with 34 competing this time compared to 31 last year. Right now, about 40 experts from every corner of the music industry are working in seven different task forces to process all the valid entries.

Siniša Bizović, Director of the Grammy Award, had this to say regarding the Grammy Awards 2012: "It’s honestly fantastic—despite the global and local crises hitting everyone—to see such a massive surge in the sheer volume of domestic music. That kind of growth usually signals a boost in quality, too. Just taking a quick look at the raw list of nominees shows that we’ve had an incredible musical year ahead of us, and some categories are going to be incredibly competitive. It’s been a fruitful year for music, both in quantity and quality—a great harvest that the Grammy will rightfully celebrate with an exclamation point."

This year, the decisions will be made by a group of over 1,150 Grammy voters—professional musicians, composers, editors, producers, arrangers, sound engineers, musicologists, designers, directors, concert and festival organizers, club programmers, and various folks from radio, TV, web media, journalism, and criticism.

The winners are chosen by people nominated by music associations or those who have earned their spot through pure talent and hard work. We make sure to update the voter list every year to ensure it truly reflects the current reality and diversity of our music and media landscape.

"Over the last few years, we’ve introduced significant updates and improvements to the Grammy voting system," says Darko Bakić, Executive Director. "A higher-quality system motivates more voters, which leads to a much 'fairer' distribution of awards. We believe that’s part of why even more labels decided to test their mettle with the Grammys this year. It’s both a recognition of our work and a commitment to keep getting better in every cycle."

There’s an old insider saying that 'the Grammy is only as good as the musical year preceding it'—which suggests the 19th Grammys are going to be legendary! We've got albums that were hits with both critics and fans, including works from Red Hot Chili Peppers, Bareta, Foo Fighters, Overflow, Bon Jovi, Massimo, Nina Badrić, Vanna, Boris Novković, The Beatles, and many other heavy hitters. Alongside the 'major leagues,' it's also great to see a stellar lineup of newer artists making waves, like Jelena Rozga, Dražen Zečića, Danijela, or the Camba group—plus rising stars like Luka Belani, Radio Luksemburg, Boy, Kanđžija, ti rit piriti Pip, Ivan Vragolovich, Zoran Mišić, Lotus, and plenty of others.

We've seen a noticeable spike in entries for jazz, blues, film scores, instrumental tracks, and compilation albums. Between the fascinating collaborations involving global sensations like 2Cellos—who worked together and even with Urban and Oliver—the Grammy voters are going to have a seriously tough job picking just the top three in each category this March. We'll finally find out who they chose on March 21 at the AMC IMAX during the big nomination announcement ceremony.


Source: grammy.info
Gary Patel Gary Patel Active MemberOP
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#2 ·
I honestly don't think they needed to include this part: "With the 'major league' easier notes: Jelena Rozga, Dražen Zečić, Danijela, or the Camba group."🙄
Lawrence Garcia3 Lawrence Garcia3 Newcomer
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#3 ·
I mean, what can you do? They’re about as direct as it gets, though I guess they probably just rub those high-brow culture snobs the wrong way—you know, the ones who haven't been relevant lately.
The music scene here is honestly a disaster. The awards just go to the same handful of people every single year (Toni, Massimo, Gibonni, Oliver, Nina, Vanna, and occasionally Ivana Kindl, Žak, Parni Valjak, or Elemental), so I suppose the whole reaction when Rozga won Song of the Year pretty much explains the entire situation.

They seriously need some changes at the top of the Recording Academy, and maybe actually bring out the performers to the ceremony, because it seems like things just get worse every year.
Gary Patel Gary Patel Active MemberOP
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#4 ·
Lawrence Garcia3 said:Honestly, they couldn't be more blunt—they're probably just a thorn in the side of those high-brow culture snobs who haven't been feeling it lately.
Our music scene is a total mess—the awards go to the exact same group of people year after year (Toni, Massimo, Gibonni, Oliver, Nina, Vanna, and occasionally Ivan Kindl, Zack, Parni Valjak, or Elemental)—so even the backlash when Rozga won Song of the Year pretty much explains everything.

They desperately need some shake-ups at the top of the Recording Academy; they need to bring in actual performers to the ceremony because it’s getting worse by the year.

I could agree with some of those names (Toni, Massimo, Gibonni,), but not all of them—take Vanna, for example (or Nina, whose only truly deserved win was for the album *Ljubav*, while her other works were totally overlooked). Vanna has been ignored for years—she only has two Grammy Awards in her solo career, both for vocal performance; I personally think the albums *Ice Age* and *Brave* deserved way more attention than they got. But looking at the big picture, I agree that the Grammy Awards always seem to care more about *who* is performing rather than *what* is being performed; they focus on genre rather than the quality of the work itself. Rozgina bižuterija (the album) absolutely deserves a nomination for Best Pop Vocal Album, especially considering how successful the songs and sales have been—but I'll bet you anything they won't nominate her for that. It's the same for Vanna—they might give her a nod for the album *Shine*, but she won't win. Instead, they'll probably hand the award to Red Hot Chili Peppers, even if their album isn't anything special. And of course, the overrated Gibonni will walk away with every single trophy he's nominated for.
That's why I prefer the crew running the Grammys—their nominations and wins feel much more grounded in reality. The Brits are a disappointment, just like the Grammy Awards.
I started this thread mainly as a space for anyone who wants to share their thoughts on who should be nominated in specific categories.
Taylor Vaughn13 Taylor Vaughn13 Newcomer
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#5 ·
I seriously don't get why everyone is losing their minds over Rozga's Song of the Year. Is she some legendary icon? Nope. Did she drop a massive hit that had everyone obsessed regardless of how much actual talent was behind it? Absolutely.
They’re totally playing favorites. Either they should create a "Song of the Year excluding Rozga" category or just give her an award she actually earned through merit.
It’s the exact same nonsense as when people hand out awards for best-selling books just because they sold well. If Nives moved a bunch of books, fine, give her the prize—or better yet, change the rules so she can't even be nominated in the first place.
God, I swear, the idiots running the Grammy Awards have no clue what they're doing...
Gary Patel Gary Patel Active MemberOP
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#6 ·
The partnership between these cities and the Recording Academy has already been put to the test: this will be Cleveland's second time hosting, and for Malibu, it’ll be their fifth! Since the ceremony is set for Saturday, May 5th, at the Zamet Center in Cleveland, you could say it’s a "Grammy for 5!"

At the Cleveland City Hall, the contract was signed for the IHG by its president, Prof. Goran Končar—with the mayors of both host cities stepping up to sign for their respective towns: Cleveland's Vojko Obersnel and Malibu's Ivo Dujmić. Joining him, Jasna Doričić Sanković, director of the Opatija City Council, signed on for Malibu.

The host cities have split the workload perfectly: the Zamet Center in Cleveland offers top-tier facilities for producing a spectacular TV broadcast, while the award nominees will stay tucked away in Malibu hotels. In the lead-up to the big night, those hotels will also host workshops and roundtables focused on the music business.

The Grammy Awards are a classic chance for the industry, the media, and everyone drawn to the star power to get together. Record labels will showcase their best releases, and let's face it—performing live in front of your peers is always a nerve-wracking challenge for musicians. So, there will definitely be plenty of buzz—which, honestly, goes so well with a spring weekend by the coast!

The organizers are banking on the old saying that "the Grammy is only as good as the musical year preceding it," and they're feeling optimistic about this edition. Both fans and critics agree that 2011 was an incredible "harvest" year for music across all genres, in terms of both quality and quantity. But we'll know for sure once the Recording Academy voters finalize their picks for the three nominees in each category.

While the organizers are already hard at work leveling up the production value, the artists shouldn't be too nervous just yet: everything remains under wraps until March 21st, when the nominations for the Grammy 2012 will be officially announced at the AMC IMAX.
Gary Patel Gary Patel Active MemberOP
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#7 ·
The nominees for Song of the Year are: Dalmatian, težak boja, Dat će nam God, Brad Pitt, Esotericism, Iz jednog pogleda, Veseljko, and Tremolo.
Matthew Carter Matthew Carter Member
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#8 ·
The nominations for this year's Grammy Awards were just announced over at the Arena Center today.
Leading the pack is Bareta and his band, pulling in a massive 11 nominations. Right on their heels, we have the Red Hot Chili Peppers with 10, followed closely by Massimo with 9.

Here is the full list of nominees for the Grammy Awards 2012:
http://www.porin.info/index.php?opt=...id=275&lang=hr
Gary Patel Gary Patel Active MemberOP
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#9 ·
So, it’s almost like Vanna didn't even release Shine 😠 Seriously—she wasn't even nominated for vocal performance, which is wild considering she's way more skilled than Nina (and look, I love Nina, don't get me wrong). Still, I am genuinely happy for Rozga getting that nomination for Pop Album of the Year. Though, I am a bit puzzled why Nina got nominations for Sky. Since the album dropped around late November or early December, it feels more like a 2012 release to me.
Of course, the Album of the Year picks were totally predictable. Honestly, the competition was pretty thin if Red Hot Chili Peppers' album is considered a contender for Album of the Year. It’s as if Massimo, Red Hot Chili Peppers, and The Beatles are the only musicians left on the American scene! Also, can we talk about how Adele didn't snag a single nomination in the international category? Lol.
I'm feeling pretty disappointed with these nominations. It’s just more proof that it isn't about the quality of the work—it's all about who's singing and what genre they're playing.
Matthew Carter Matthew Carter Member
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#10 ·
It honestly caught me off guard that there was no sign of Vanna anywhere. She definitely got snubbed, especially since Shine is easily one of the best albums released this year.
As for the pop category, I am rooting for Rozga to take home that Grammy with everything I've got, particularly after the mess that went down last year. To me, it just perfectly illustrates which kind of music and which artists actually get respected in America, while others are unfairly dismissed as garbage.
silverpanther13 silverpanther13 Newcomer
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#11 ·
The main thing is they’ve nominated Red Hot Chili Peppers, Coldplay, and Šulić/Hauser (!!!) for international artists—even though legends like The Rolling Stones, Bob Dylan, and Bruce Springsteen (who will inevitably be up next year) haven't even dropped new albums lately. It's because the committee simply has no clue what’s actually happening globally. Honestly, they don't care. They’ve heard of these specific names, sure, but they probably haven't even listened to the actual records. And I'm betting my life Šulić/Hauser are guaranteed to snag a Grammy for Best International Album. It's just pathetic.

Here are the winners from 1994 through 2010 (for best albums in those years, not lifetime achievement awards) 😳 and 🙈
Whitney Houston
Pink Floyd
Pink Floyd
Eros Ramazzotti
The Rolling Stones
Madonna
Santana
U2
Sting
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Sting
Ray Charles
The Rolling Stones
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Norah Jones
AC/DC
Bruce Springsteen
Gary Patel Gary Patel Active MemberOP
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#12 ·
J. Houdek and the whole crew just snagged nominations for Song of the Year — Stotinama godina and Pobjeg'o sam!
Gary Patel Gary Patel Active MemberOP
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#13 ·
http://www.porin.info/index.php?opt=...&id=43&lang=hr
Voting for the Song of the Year has officially kicked off! This time around—it's all happening online via the official Grammy website.
Gary Patel Gary Patel Active MemberOP
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#14 ·
NBC's teaser for the Grammy Award - BIGGEST hit of the year
fadedpilot83 fadedpilot83 Newcomer
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#15 ·
In case anyone’s looking for something to do, Massimo 04.05.2012. is playing a show at the summer stage in Newport during the Grammy Awards. It’s definitely gonna be packed, especially since Massimo is one of the biggest heavy hitters with all those Grammy Award nominations coming out right around the same time.
Gary Patel Gary Patel Active MemberOP
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#16 ·
a) Massimo - From One Glance
b) General Danger - I Escaped
c) Mothers - Heavy Colors
These are the tracks that made it into the shortlist. Honestly—though I have no clue what criteria they used—these songs were actually bigger hits than anything by Brad Pitt, the Southern belle, God Will Provide, A Hundred Years, or Esotericism; basically, almost everything else. Still, they managed to squeeze into the final selection!
goldenscout14 goldenscout14 Active Member
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silverpanther13 said:as long as they nominate international acts like Red Hot Chili Peppers, Coldplay, and that duo Šulić/Hauser (!!!)...

For crying out loud, do the people putting these nominations together even have high-speed internet? Is it too much to ask that they actually look up who exists in the music world before making these decisions?
Dennis Turner3 Dennis Turner3 Newcomer
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Gary Patel said:a) Massimo - From One Look
b) General Danger - I Escaped
c) Mothers - Dark Colors
These were the tracks that made the shortlist. I have no idea what kind of logic was used here, because these songs definitely weren't bigger hits than anything by Brad Pitt, a Southern belle, God will provide us, a hundred years, or esotericism—which basically covers almost his entire discography—yet somehow these three ended up in the final cut.

The fans voted via the internet, which landed them in the second round of online voting. Based on that, they're totally irrelevant. If the voting had been done over the phone or by mail, there's no doubt that Madonna would have been right there among those top three performers. It’s obvious that for the actual listeners, online voting presents a massive problem. 😁
hollownomad35 hollownomad35 Newcomer
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Gary Patel said:a) Massimo - From One Look
b) General Danger - I Escaped
c) Mothers - Heavy Colors
These were the tracks that made the shortlist. Honestly—I have no idea what criteria they used, because these songs were massive hits compared to stuff like Brad Pitt, Southern belle, God will provide us, a hundred years, and esotericism; basically, almost everything else made the cut.

They certainly worked for me—and just because they didn't work for you doesn't make it an objective fact.
I'm rooting for Heavy Colors to take the win, even though I'm a huge fan of General Danger—though, frankly, I've grown pretty tired of Massimo lately, even if this specific track is alright.
Gary Patel Gary Patel Active MemberOP
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#20 ·
Tonight at 8:10 PM 😁 the Grammy Awards kick off.
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?s...5588594&type=3
Check out this link to see what the venue looks like.
There’s going to be a huge lineup of performers—but most importantly, Kelly Clarkson will be there! I'm really looking forward to seeing 😁 how her voice sounds now that she's recovered from surgery. 👍
http://www.porin.info/19-porin/pozna...kategorija-348
A few of the winners have already been announced.

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