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The origins of Reddit?

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Participants restlesstiger102Henry Evans3jadetrucker43Paul Green31neondrifter26Eric Newman75cosmicskipper39hollowtrucker77briskeagle39rapidotter29
restlesstiger102 restlesstiger102 Active MemberOP
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#1 ·
I wasn't quite sure where to turn with this request, but I am currently in need of some specific details for my senior thesis project.
I am looking for any available documentation or even just some basic background information regarding the origins of Reddit—specifically when it was founded, who the original creators were, and what their underlying motivation was for launching the site.

Essentially, I am trying to reconstruct a bit of a history for the platform.
Unfortunately, Google hasn't been particularly helpful in narrowing down these specific details, so I would be incredibly grateful for any insights or information the community might be able to provide. Any help at all would be a lifesaver.😁
Henry Evans3 Henry Evans3 Active Member
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#2 ·
It would be way more interesting if it were the "disappearance of Reddit"🤣
jadetrucker43 jadetrucker43 Active Member
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#3 ·
You probably won't find a straight answer for this kind of thing through a basic Google search, but you might get lucky if you ask around on Reddit. From what I recall, Politico kicked things off back in '97, and I'm pretty sure the original forum followed shortly after in '98 or '99—it eventually morphed into its current setup around November 2002. I actually know a few old-timers from the original site who still hang around; maybe one of them will drop by and give you the real scoop on how this all started.

As far as the ownership goes, nothing has really changed over the years. We're all under the umbrella of Monitor Plus LLC, which is owned by Jack Anderson.
restlesstiger102 restlesstiger102 Active MemberOP
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#4 ·
spec.tre, this is incredibly helpful information. It’s honestly a lifesaver because I haven't been able to track down anything useful on my own.
If anyone could provide a quick breakdown using just a few bullet points, I would be so grateful. It seems fairly obvious what the structure of Reddit looks like in terms of subreddits, but I want to be certain about the hierarchy. We have the moderators who manage the discussions and handle things like policing insults or rule-breaking. Then there are the super moderators, and above them, the admins—is that the correct order?

It would also be wonderful if someone could shed some light on how Reddit actually stays afloat financially, and how it managed to achieve such massive popularity regarding its traffic and total user base. I suspect Jack Anderson might be the most knowledgeable person regarding this, as I am fairly certain he is the driving force behind the entire Marketing Agency operation supporting the site, though I am equally convinced he won't bother replying to me. Regardless, I really need to pull together at least two full pages regarding the history and mechanics of Reddit.🙏 🙏 🙏

In any case, if anyone happens to know anything about the origins of this platform, its growth, or its evolution, please feel free to write a long response. It would truly be a huge help to me.😍
jadetrucker43 jadetrucker43 Active Member
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#5 ·
The hierarchy is pretty straightforward: you’ve got your regular Redditors, then the Moderators (who basically run their own little subreddits), followed by the Supermoderators, and finally the Admins. Most Admins are just focused on their own specific sets of goals and day-to-day tasks.

As for how they keep the lights on? It's all through advertising. If you want to get into the weeds with the numbers, check out the Marketing Agency page and that old interview from 2009 featuring Jack Anderson.
Paul Green31 Paul Green31 Active Member
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#6 ·
Check out this interesting link.

http://wayback.archive.org/web/20041...//www.forum.hr

Just click the years on the timeline above, and you can browse snapshots of the forum from specific dates. Here’s the oldest one I could find: http://web.archive.org/web/200308010.../www.forum.hr/

It says right here: has been crawled 895 times going all the way back to August 1, 2003.

That's basically where the forum really took off. But before that, there was the IMF—the Reddit of its day. It was actually revolutionary, a totally different beast compared to today's "I just discovered the web" crowd. Back then, we didn't have trolls or spammers constantly ruining everything. It was much calmer. Honestly, I don't know the exact launch date, but I'd guess it was around '99.

So, if you want to see how things actually started, just Google "IMF" or "Reddit."

And by the way, why don't you just send Anderson a DM or an email? I doubt he'll pass up any chance to be cited in some college thesis; he'll love seeing how good it looks. We all know how much he loves statistics, especially when they feed that massive ego of his. Though, I bet he isn't too thrilled about those uptime stats. 😬

Edit: Here, Anderson claims it started in '99. There's a mountain of data right here.

restlesstiger102 restlesstiger102 Active MemberOP
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#7 ·
spec.tre and Paul Green31, this is truly excellent work. Regardless of how one views the situation, this will prove to be incredibly useful.

If anyone else feels inclined to demonstrate their prowess at navigating search engines, please feel free to 🤣

I personally failed to stumble upon this during my own research, yet I find it quite valuable 😍

thanks 🙂
neondrifter26 neondrifter26 Newcomer
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#8 ·
This interview is actually pretty interesting—definitely worth a read.
As for the IMF, from what I can tell, their structure hasn't changed much compared to how this Reddit thread looks today.
Eric Newman75 Eric Newman75 Active Member
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#9 ·
Paul Green31 said:For instance, here’s the oldest one: http://web.archive.org/web/200308010.../www.forum.hr/

👋 🎉

There I am right on the front page. Though, honestly, I have no idea what I was doing on Science at 2:00 AM. 😬

That version from 2003 actually felt more functional and easier to navigate. 😍 By the way, everything just feels like the IMF to me—I guess I'm just used to the acronym. This counts too. The real issue is that the "I want high-speed web" generation is constantly asking me what any of this stuff even means. 😁
cosmicskipper39 cosmicskipper39 Active Member
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#10 ·
I’m pretty sure there were spammers lurking on the old Reddit too, because if my memory serves me right, Russ was hanging around there.
It felt like everyone back then was way more chill, and the mods didn't go around throwing those damn red cards at everyone.
Sometimes they'd just block an IP address and call it a day. The whole company would spiral for a second because some colleague had these radical views plastered all over the company policy, but things would settle down fast. 😬
We didn't feel like we had to censor ourselves, people weren't nearly as passive-aggressive, and I don't recall anyone writing some formal intro saying they were starting a thread "in agreement with the admin or moderator."
My favorite flamewars were when the regulars would jump on the unauthenticated trolls with lines like, "Register if you actually have the balls."
Honestly, it would be great if you could track down that clone who was posting on that thread about the old IMF. I bet she could actually be helpful.
restlesstiger102 restlesstiger102 Active MemberOP
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#11 ·
So, does this mean the 2002 IMF has officially turned into Reddit?
Paul Green31 Paul Green31 Active Member
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#12 ·
restlesstiger102 said:So what, does the 2002 IMF just turn into this message board now?

🙂

Watch it, okay? In my last post, you've got Anderson's request for the domain, and right underneath it in that same PDF, there’s the official approval from the government.
And if I remember correctly, the department cleared the domain back in February of 2003.

Either way, that document has all the details you need regarding the "early days" of this site.
restlesstiger102 restlesstiger102 Active MemberOP
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#13 ·
Alright, I think I finally see where that’s noted 🤦

It feels a bit premature for me to 🤣
Eric Newman75 Eric Newman75 Active Member
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#14 ·
cosmicskipper39 said:I’m pretty sure there were spammers on the old Reddit, because if my memory serves me right, Russ was hanging around there too.
It felt like the community was a bit more chill back then, and the mods weren't constantly throwing red cards at everyone.
Sometimes they'd just block an IP address and call it a day. That was it.

Yeah, they really only had one card to play—the permaban. And you actually had to earn it. 😬
hollowtrucker77 hollowtrucker77 Regular
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#15 ·
There weren't any actual bans issued, it was all just arbitrary stuff based on whatever the moderator felt like doing at the moment.

But honestly, it’s also worth noting that there was this specific crowd that didn't really meet the "standard" anyway, and it wasn't like everyone lurking in the shadows had a reliable connection or even access to the internet and the forum.
Eric Newman75 Eric Newman75 Active Member
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#16 ·
It was just a metaphor. 😉

And now, trolls and idiots have crawled onto every single forum. Sure, there were fewer of them back then, but I’m not even sure what kind of "standard" you're talking about. Are we talking about communication on those old Usenet newsgroups?

I mean, I've been posting since '98 or '99—Chocolate Man might know better, we go way back to those days, though I'm getting old and senile myself 😁—on unmoderated AT&T boards. That forum doesn't even exist anymore. Once it went dark, a lot of us migrated over to the IMF, because during the IMF rebuild, a few IMF folks drifted our way and we hit it off. Back then, anyone could show up; there wasn't some specific "culture." If someone came at you, you had to defend yourself. You dealt with it however you could.
hollowtrucker77 hollowtrucker77 Regular
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#17 ·
Back when we had the core crew, if anyone was going to mess with you, they did it at a certain level; the banter was sharp, sure, but it actually had some substance to it.
Then, slowly but surely, this wave of people started showing up who weren't even really tech enthusiasts—and sorry if I’m being clumsy with my wording here, but I can't think of any other way to put it—they were mostly just looking for a place to hang out.
Right before the true internet generation arrived, you had these kids hopping online simply because they were bored at home, and that's when the quality of everything just took a massive nose dive.
That was also the moment where basic moral standards had to be firmly established, otherwise, the whole thing would have devolved into nothing but petty bickering and constant insults flying left and right.
In those corners of the web where people failed to set those boundaries, those communities eventually just ceased to exist.
briskeagle39 briskeagle39 Member
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#18 ·
Wasn't the web address www.teme.org at one point?
Or maybe I'm just getting my wires crossed...
Eric Newman75 Eric Newman75 Active Member
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#19 ·
Honestly, I'm starting to think you're right on that one.
rapidotter29 rapidotter29 Newcomer
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#20 ·
hollowtrucker77 said:—well, it’s also true there was a certain crowd that didn't quite fit the usual mold...

Man, those really were the good old days, 🙂Zack Quoth
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hollowtrucker77 said:...and let's not forget, not everyone who slipped under the radar back then actually had internet access or even knew what a forum was.

But nowadays... honestly, I feel this growing sense of detachment from the site every single day—like I just don't feel the need to log in anymore.🤷

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