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The Night Porter (1974)

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coppernomad44 coppernomad44 MemberOP
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IMDb http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071910/

Plot: Vienna, 1957. A chance encounter between a night porter named Max and Lucia Atherton, the wife of a world-renowned American conductor, unearths a shared past from their time in a concentration camp: a sadistic, masochistic bond between an SS officer and a prisoner. Completely and exclusively consumed by one another, they retreat to his apartment, eventually finding the only possible resolution in a mutual death pact.

I just finished this movie and it’s left me feeling... intrigued, I suppose... I can't quite put my finger on why, but there's something deeply fascinating about it.🤣

I'm curious to hear what you all make of it...
What is it that drives Lucia to fall for an SS officer? And why is their connection so inherently destructive... what are they actually searching for?
coppernomad44 coppernomad44 MemberOP
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What, did nobody actually watch the movie, or was it just so mediocre that you all can't even be bothered to argue about it...🙂
Michelle Gonzalez Michelle Gonzalez Member
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What a captivating piece of cinema! From my perspective here in the 21st century, however, I found certain moments to be somewhat excessive, leaning perhaps too heavily on "shock value." At times, this visceral approach actually distracted me from the deeper development of the characters; I could clearly sense how the filmmakers were aiming for that specific 1970s sense of provocation. Yet, paradoxically, the direction feels so strikingly modern—especially given the unsettling subject matter—that when it was originally released, it must have felt as though it had landed straight from another planet.

The performance by Dirk Bogarde is quite simply one of the greatest cinematic portrayings ever captured on film, and his interpretation is nothing short of masterful.
Karen King Karen King Newcomer
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One of my absolute favorites—just look at the themes, the aesthetic, the whole vibe 🙂
Why does she fall for her 'captor'? It’s basically Stockholm Syndrome. You know, that psychological thing where someone gets emotionally attached to their oppressor? Like a kidnapper, or in this case, an SS officer played by Dirk Bogarde. But hey, that’s just one layer of the story.

I honestly feel like if a movie is tackling any kind of mental illness, you need a little bit of shock value to make it land. It’s necessary! It would be super interesting to look at how directors have evolved the way they shock an audience over time, especially with recent films about psychological struggles—think about something like Antichrist, versus the much more pop-campy vibe of Black Swan.

The real beauty such a film lies in is that total freedom to explore these dark states. When you have a brilliant director working in that space, you get a masterpiece. Take The Night Porter, for example, and that legendary scene where Rampling sings "If I Could Wish For Something" to those SS officers 🙂
Michelle Gonzalez Michelle Gonzalez Member
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Karen King said:One of my absolute favorites—both in its thematic depth and its haunting aesthetic 🙂

The true beauty such a film lies in that boundless freedom to explore such profound psychological states; when a director operates within that sphere, they can craft a genuine masterpiece, much like how we see in The Night Porter and that legendary scene where Rampling sings "If I Could Wish For Something" to the SS officers.🙂

Beautifully put...
coppernomad44 coppernomad44 MemberOP
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Karen King said:One of my absolute favorites—in terms of theme, aesthetic, and just the general vibe 🙂
Why does Isabelle certainly fall for her "captor"? It's basically Stockholm syndrome, that psychological glitch where you develop an emotional bond with your own oppressor—like a kidnapper, which is actually how the whole thing got its name... or in this case, an oppressor played by Dirk Bogarde, acting as an SS officer. But that's just one layer of the story.

🙂 That was the first thing that crossed my mind while watching, thinking it was all about Stockholm syndrome, but I have this nagging feeling the director wasn't necessarily aiming for that specific angle...

plus, he seems like the kind of sadist who just gets a kick out of silencing and controlling her, and maybe he fell for her precisely because she actually finds pleasure in it... 🤷

the whole film is just so intriguing...😍
wiredbison82 wiredbison82 Active Member
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An exceptional film. Someone higher up articulated everything perfectly.

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