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Ceruloplasmin and copper levels

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Terry Ramos7 Terry Ramos7 NewcomerOP
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My doctor just sent me off for some copper and ceruloplasmin testing—I'm currently sitting around waiting for the results to roll in.
What does it actually signify when those reference intervals come back high or low? Specifically, what are ceruloplasmin and copper even doing in my system? If anyone out there happens to be knowledgeable about this, I would truly appreciate an explanation. Thanks!
fadedmarlin402 fadedmarlin402 Active Member
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Ceruloplasmin is an enzyme responsible for carrying most of the copper—about 90% of it—in your blood plasma. I assume you know what copper is; it’s a chemical element that plays its own specific role in how the body functions.

Copper levels tend to spike in cases of solid tumors, leukemia, liver cirrhosis, various infections, hemothorax, hyperthyroidism, rheumatoid arthritis, Alzheimer's, schizophrenia, and even OCD. On the flip side, levels drop during Wilson's disease, nephrotic syndrome, kwashiorkor, Menkes disease, or Vitamin C hypervitaminosis...

Running these tests is particularly critical when looking into Wilson's disease. That condition is characterized by low copper concentrations in the plasma alongside elevated levels in the urine. Based on what you've shared here so far, we can't rule it out.
Terry Ramos7 Terry Ramos7 NewcomerOP
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Thanks for getting back to me with that info. I actually have a follow-up appointment coming up this week—and, honestly, I’m feeling pretty anxious about it. My recent lab results weren't exactly great; my copper and ceruloplasmin levels are both running low. I'm sitting here in a state of total uncertainty—it's quite overwhelming, really—and I can't help but fear the absolute worst-case scenario. If anyone has any advice or has been through something similar, I would truly appreciate it.
fadedmarlin402 fadedmarlin402 Active Member
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Could you share those blood and urine lab results with us? If we're looking at low copper levels in the blood, everything points toward Wilson's disease. You can't get a definitive diagnosis without a liver biopsy and a pH test, though. That said, the prognosis for this condition is generally pretty good.
Terry Ramos7 Terry Ramos7 NewcomerOP
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I’ve only got my blood work results in front of me right now. The reference range is listed as 80-160, but my reading came back at 66. Also, the ceruloplasmin reference interval is 20-60, while mine is sitting at 18. Could you please explain how anyone could call this a "good prognosis"?
Harold Jackson32 Harold Jackson32 Newcomer
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Terry Ramos7 said:All I have is my blood work. The reference range is 80-160, but I'm sitting at 66. Ceruloplasmin's range is 20-60, and mine is 18. So, care to explain this "good prognosis" thing?

A good prognosis basically means that if it turns out to be Wilson disease, catching it and getting on treatment is the key. If you stick to a regular, lifelong therapy plan, you can live a totally normal life—just maybe cut back on the drinks :-) especially if it’s just the hepatic version. The neurological side of things is a bit more of a headache, but again, the most important factor is getting a diagnosis as early as possible.
Keep us posted on the results.
Best,
fadedmarlin402 fadedmarlin402 Active Member
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Look, Laura Reed57 laid it out pretty clearly. If the diagnosis actually pans out, there are medications available to balance out your copper levels—penicillamine is usually the go-to—which helps the liver start healing, provided things haven't already gone south with severe damage. Recovery isn't overnight; you're looking at several months of work.
Eric Wright29 Eric Wright29 Member
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Terry Ramos7 said:My doctor sent me for copper and ceruloplasmin tests. I'm still waiting on the results.
What does it actually mean when the reference ranges come back high or low? And what exactly are ceruloplasmin and copper? If anyone knows anything about this, please let me know. Thanks.

If I understood our private messages correctly, you're looking at low copper levels?!

It looks like others have already given some smart answers to your question. I just want to add one thing: have you been taking any (adenocortico)steroids lately?

Everything else seems to be covered.
Sorry for the delay in getting back to your DM.
I'm posting here on the public forum so anyone else dealing with the same issue can find the info.

Are you experiencing any symptoms? Things like neuropathy, hypochromic anemia, low muscle tone, neurological deficits, osteoporosis, or connective tissue issues?
quietpilot87 quietpilot87 Active Member
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Quick question—can I get this pulled out at any hospital in New York City? Thanks.
Donna Hayes82 Donna Hayes82 Newcomer
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Eric Wright29 said:If I understood our private chat correctly, you’re dealing with low copper levels, right?

It looks like everyone else here has already given some pretty smart answers to your question, so I just wanted to add one more thing to the mix: have you been taking any (adeno)corticosteroids lately?

Everything else seems to be covered.
I am so sorry for being a little slow to get back to you in our private messages.
I figured I would post this on the public forum so that anyone else struggling with similar issues can benefit from the info too.

Are you experiencing any specific symptoms? Things like neuropathy, hypochromic anemia, low blood pressure, neurological deficits, osteoporosis, or maybe issues with connective tissue?

I was wondering if someone could help explain how polyneuropathy links up with a copper deficiency and low ceruloplasmin levels, and what role corticosteroids play in all of that.
Thanks so much!

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