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Participants Jason Campbell70darkwolf61Morgan Rodriguez57dustyhawk4Anthony Jackson2vividstag24dustypanther6ambercobra28Jonathan Reed4frozentiger6Paul Anderson7swiftwalker43Jonathan Cox4Carl Brooks22bluebison47quietfox38analoggull4Betty Patel172Susan James42Susan Garcia5Gerald Rivera17Ronald Brooks75George Robinson43Nicole Palmer6 …
swiftwalker43 swiftwalker43 Member
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joined Apr 2011
#21 ·
darkridge10 said:The whole debate over who’s better is just senseless. In America, everyone is the best at what they do in their own lane. You can't even compare two sports that are this different.
But honestly, if you want to kill me, I don't really care why Vlašić felt the need to write that letter. Nobody likes me anyway. I'm the greatest, Gips hasn't a clue, and track and field is the greatest sport in the entire universe. 🙂 🙂 Forget those HOO awards.
And my take? Olympic medals are still Olympic medals; the Diamond League doesn't even come close.

I agree. They are both top-tier coaches in their respective fields, and this country is grateful for them and the success of their athletes. People engage in these pointless bickering matches and petty arguments, but truthfully, Vlašić was the one who started this whole unnecessary mess out of pure wounded ego. Personally, I celebrate every Blankin medal just as much as I do Ivičin achievements. What Janica accomplished is beyond debate—the results speak for themselves, and Olympic gold remains the absolute pinnacle for any athlete.
I just hope Blanka and Ivica surprise us with Olympic gold, not necessarily for our sake, but because they've truly earned it through their own grit, sweat, and raw talent.
Jonathan Cox4 Jonathan Cox4 Member
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joined Apr 2008
#22 ·
Sandra Wilson38 said:Maybe Gypsy and Mustachio should just go head-to-head in their own specialties—Gypsy in slalom and Vlasic in high jump—just so we can finally see who actually measures up. Then we could give them a real evaluation. 😁

I mean... I suspect Gypsy is still part of the intro. 😁
That guy already knows how to ski. He doesn't need Sobol or anyone else to teach his kids how to do it. 😁

Morgan Rodriguez57 said:Alright, let’s see who exactly is on Blanka's team:
Check out the lineup over at http://www.blanka-vlasic.com/team-en.php. It gives you a look at the people behind the operation.

So, even the label says it's total bullshit, doesn't it? 😁
Each one of them has their own dedicated professional staff behind them, so give me a break—these guys are elite athletes.
I’m inclined to agree that Marinovic deserves more credit when it comes to pure technique. Anyone who actually follows any kind of sport knows that technical mastery is absolutely everything.
Carl Brooks22 Carl Brooks22 Member
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joined Apr 2004
#23 ·
Anthony Jackson2 said:Kudos to Blanka and Joško Vlašić, but I'm siding with Gypsy here.

First off, even Blanka herself—and especially her uncle—are incredibly, deeply unlikable to me. They both seem far too full of themselves, which isn't a quality I particularly enjoy in people. 🤷

Dederti, why don't you just tell us who has better assets—Ivica or Blanka? Then we can end this debate before the moderator shuts the thread down.

pc_arche said:Blanka has about 1,000 times more competition than Ivica.
Just because she dominates doesn't mean the field is weak. It just means she's good.
And if she wins gold after skipping over 202, it doesn't mean her opponents were just seven or eight mediocre jumpers.

Exactly.
It seems Blanka's dominance is also her curse. I get the feeling she might find it easier to prove her worth if she started "tanking" it—dropping her jumps by a few centimeters just to artificially stay in the hunt.

I don't think there's an athlete at that level; honestly, Vlasic is in a league of his own, facing as much backlash in America as that girl does.
She’s not likable, she has no rivals, her dad is either Mustachio or a total egoist, she wins constantly, and if she loses, they say she's mentally weak or clueless—maybe even slow. Plus, she wears 6-inch heels while being nearly 6 feet tall, and apparently, she knows how to call an elevator but chooses to walk instead...
Her results are about as relevant as a local high school track meet in Tennessee.
bluebison47 bluebison47 Regular
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joined Jul 2012
#24 ·
Yeah, I mean, the competition was just brutal... after the two-meter mark, it’s basically just her and maybe one other person left standing, but by the time they hit 1.95, you're lucky if five or six even make it through🙂
vividstag24 vividstag24 Member
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joined Aug 2012
#25 ·
So now she’s somehow at fault just because she’s actually the best? Give me a break, what a joke.😳
quietfox38 quietfox38 Member
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#26 ·
Before heading out from Washington, D.C., Kostelić dodged questions about his coaching rival. Meanwhile, Vlašić told ABC he picked up skiing in just 15 days, though he eventually backed off.
'I might look like a fool, but I’m definitely not stupid. I want this back-and-forth to end. No matter what Kostelić said, I respect him as a top-tier coach with incredible results.'


Pfft.

Zenyatta would have learned to ski in 10 days. 🙄
Anthony Jackson2 Anthony Jackson2 Regular
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joined Jul 2009
#27 ·
Carl Brooks22 said:Look, why don't you just tell us who has the better look—Ivica il or Blanka—so we can end this debate and let the moderator close the thread.

Blanka actually has those assets? 🤔

Morgan Rodriguez57 said:Aha, let's see who all is on Blanka's team:
http://www.blanka-vlasic.com/team-en.php

So, the mustache guy's involvement is even smaller than I thought—nice.☕
vividstag24 vividstag24 Member
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joined Aug 2012
#28 ·
Anthony Jackson2 said:Does Blanka have some assets? 🤔

Even bigger than Ivica😉
analoggull4 analoggull4 Active Member
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joined Oct 2012
#29 ·
Anthony Jackson2 said:Does Blanka have any lingerie? 🤔

Blanka's got some adult videos 🤷
Anthony Jackson2 Anthony Jackson2 Regular
605 messages
joined Jul 2009
#30 ·
vividstag24 said:bigger than Ivica😉

Hard to say—I haven't seen either one. 🤷
Paul Anderson7 Paul Anderson7 Active Member
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joined Jun 2010
#31 ·
Man, it’s almost over. 🙄
Betty Patel172 Betty Patel172 Member
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joined Mar 2009
#32 ·
I caught a FOX promo yesterday where they claimed Joško learned to ski in just two weeks. They ran it as this massive headline, acting like it was breaking news. So, I tuned into the actual segment to see what the fuss was about. It barely lasted two minutes, and sure enough, Joško mentions learning to ski in two weeks—though the context of *how* he actually learned is completely different from the teaser. The media loves to slice and dice a story to fit a narrative. You really can't take much at face value anymore.
Susan James42 Susan James42 Active Member
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joined Sep 2005
#33 ·
Vlašić is a tough guy to deal with. Honestly, I don’t even care for gips, but Vlašić is just a softie who feels the need to mope around in public.
And frankly, all that whining hurts him, Blanka, and the reputation of American sports as a whole.
Not to mention my own nerves.

To wrap this up: I am completely fed up with the endless parade of American coaches, wannabe journalists, local politicians, and those ridiculous Turkish soap operas!
Just leave me alone, you shallow, uneducated, greedy, primitive, and cheap people!
vividstag24 vividstag24 Member
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#34 ·
Susan James42 said:Vlašić is a tough guy from my neck of the woods. To be honest, I don't even care for gips, but Vlašić is just a softie who feels the need to whine in front of the cameras.
And that constant whimpering? It’s damaging to him, it's damaging to Blanka, and it's damaging to American sports as a whole.
It's also doing wonders for my blood pressure.

To wrap this up: I am absolutely fed up with this endless parade of American coaches, wannabe journalists, Republican politicians, and those ridiculous Turkish soap operas!
Just leave me alone, you shallow, uneducated, greedy, primitive, cheap hacks!

Well, nobody is holding you back.😛
Betty Patel172 Betty Patel172 Member
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joined Mar 2009
#35 ·
I suspect that Joško and Gips possess more integrity and lack the tribalistic, primitive tendencies found in many of us posting here. We others just pretend to be the hardworking, honest types, don't we?
Jonathan Reed4 Jonathan Reed4 Active Member
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joined Jan 2004
#36 ·
I really hope brko caught today's giant slalom in Aspen. ☕
Susan Garcia5 Susan Garcia5 Newcomer
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joined Feb 2014
#37 ·
Ivica just proved that the Kostelić family is basically running a Space Shuttle factory, not just making planes like gips claims 🙂
Gerald Rivera17 Gerald Rivera17 Member
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joined Oct 2005
#38 ·
Ronald Sullivan24 said:I was watching a FOX promo just yesterday... they had this segment where Joško claims he learned how to ski in just two weeks—and they played it over and over like it was some massive breaking news headline. So Joško hits back, saying he picked up skiing in a mere fortnight... and now I’m watching the actual news report, and out of the whole thing, maybe two minutes are dedicated to him. Most of it is just Joško repeating that two-week claim. It really just comes down to how they framed his "learning to ski" in that specific context... the teaser was one thing, but the actual footage felt totally different, full of these little edited snippets... honestly, you can't trust much when it comes to the media,

Meanwhile, PBS spent five straight minutes droning on about Ivica, acting like everything else was a failure. They'll nitpick—saying he was a few seconds short here, or a few seconds late there—always finding something to critique, and they did it for five full minutes.

And one more thing... they conveniently forgot to mention that Ivica Kostelić receives a scholarship despite earning millions...
Gerald Rivera17 Gerald Rivera17 Member
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joined Oct 2005
#39 ·
Sandra Wilson38 said:I really hope brko caught today’s giant slalom over in Aspen... ☕

Roger Gonzalez41 said:Ivica just proved right now that the Kostelic clan is more like a NASA assembly line than an airplane factory—not that gips would agree... 🙂

Man... imagine what people would have said if he hadn't grabbed fourth... say, if it had been third instead...
😍...
Jonathan Reed4 Jonathan Reed4 Active Member
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joined Jan 2004
#40 ·
Gerald Rivera17 said:PBS gave Ivica five minutes of airtime, and if that’s not considered a success, then I don't know what is. It's always the same story—he was just a few seconds off here, or a few seconds off there, and everyone else gets blamed. So they gave him five minutes.

Was it really that bad? 🙄😁

Gerald Rivera17 said:And one more thing, Ivica Kostelić receives a stipend even though he earns millions. They didn't mention that.

Are you serious??? 😲

🙄

Yeah, Kostelica and Fak were awarded monthly stipends following their performance at the Vancouver Olympics, per the decision from the Vijec HOO. This didn't exist before those games.
Are you going to complain when Blanka gets a stipend after her success in New York City?

PS, Ivica finished 5th today, not 4th. 🙂

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