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Quote: Nixon 1968 - Moderator for astrology

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Participants George Clark19Lisa Cox4slycobra61mellowraven22Olivia Mitchell14Ryan Wilson2hollowdriver18Jacob Fox6hollowtrucker77
George Clark19 George Clark19 MemberOP
35 messages
joined Jan 2007
#1 ·
Look, I’m sorry, but if you had to go ahead and delete half my post just because of words like "sucks" or "chill"—and seriously, what was even wrong with "chillll"?—that’s just not right. You could have just taken out that one specific word instead of gutting the whole thing.

I was posting in the thread about problems I’m having with astrology, so I honestly don't see how I'm trolling here. There was zero reason to move my post over to the thread about what astrology can do for a person; now it just feels like this random, totally out-of-nowhere interruption.
Please, just let people see what I actually wrote. I want everyone else on this forum to be able to read my point and see why there was absolutely no need to butcher my entire message.

Also, I have no clue what was bothering you about my sentence saying that while astrology has rules, 2+2 doesn't usually equal 4.

In my opinion, the moderator is being way too rigid with the rules. It feels like she isn't even being impartial—it seems like some people get away with whatever they want, while I'm getting grilled over the tiniest little things for no reason at all.
And I don't get why I'm being accused of trolling when I am staying on topic and posting in the correct threads.

This isn't even the first time this has happened, either.
I don't even have my original post anymore, mostly because I never expected it would end up being edited like this.
Lisa Cox4 Lisa Cox4 Member
46 messages
joined Jul 2005
#2 ·
Sophia Adams63, you seriously need to focus and just ask a direct question already.

Alright, let's get down to business:

1) What exactly is eating at you?

2) What are you actually complaining about?
Lisa Cox4 Lisa Cox4 Member
46 messages
joined Jul 2005
#3 ·
Sophia Adams63 said:Look, sorry, but if you had to wipe out half my post just because I used words like "chill" or whatever—seriously, what was even wrong with "chill"?—that’s not cool. You could've just deleted the specific word instead of nuking the whole thing.

It wasn't "half your post," it was just that one sentence where you were acting like the moderator was some kind of joke.

The moderator doesn't exist to be your punchline, that's not how we communicate on this astrology board, and honestly, it has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand.
slycobra61 slycobra61 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Oct 2009
#4 ·
Lisa Cox4 said:Seven posts were moved to the Chat topic (honestly, I didn't know where else to put them since they have nothing to do with astrology and are nowhere near this subject matter).

If you were going to move them, you should have done it in a sequence that actually forms a coherent thought. What you did was essentially trying to label a trash can instead of just putting the posts in it.

It is high time people on this subforum understood astrology better and stopped labeling every single post as Offtopic just because the author forgot to tag an aspect or a planet.

Regarding the discussion you pulled; an astrologer needs to understand the definitions of the terms they use. They must be as clear to them as the line between light and shadow is on a bright summer day.

And if your intention was to protect someone's reputation, let me remind you that as a moderator for astrology, your primary duty is to protect the dignity of ASTROLOGY itself.

A real moderator would have stepped into the discussion to moderate the dialogue or redirect it if necessary, rather than acting like a police officer...

Here is my own label for staying on-topic!
Uranus left Aries and returned to your sun sign about a month ago. It serves as a reminder that while it was in Aries, it looked around and peered ahead. It was in a cardinal sign. It saw the heart of the future and is telling you that you need to make some revolutionary changes.


🙏

P.S. I accepted Ryan Wilson2's remark about moving the post to this subforum, but I still believe this is something you—and everyone else here—need to deal with seriously.
Astrology is much more than just nomenclature and a 360° circle...
mellowraven22 mellowraven22 Active Member
105 messages
joined Jan 2007
#5 ·
slycobra61 said:If you were gonna move them, you should've done it so they actually made sense together in a sequence.

Look, there's no way to change the order of posts. The forum software just doesn't let you do that.
Lisa Cox4 Lisa Cox4 Member
46 messages
joined Jul 2005
#6 ·
slycobra61 said:What you just did was basically equating a high-end brand with the trash can you actually wanted to toss those posts into—you just didn't have the guts to pull the trigger.

I try to avoid doing that whenever I possibly can; honestly, I barely ever do it unless it's an absolute emergency (we talked about this quite a bit back before you were even part of the PDF crowd). See, every single thread here has its own specific vibe and purpose, which matters a lot.

The only reason I went ahead and did it this time (with a disclaimer, obviously) is because I felt bad about all the effort that went into it.

But look, when someone starts posting Offtopic stuff in a thread, I can only delete it if there isn't a dedicated thread for it. That was the only real catch here. 🙂

P.S. By the way, can I ask you to please watch out for that moving forward? Just stick to the topic. We've already had to deal with people taking things to their private messages before. 🙂
slycobra61 slycobra61 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Oct 2009
#7 ·
Lisa Cox4 said:I avoid doing this whenever possible; in fact, I rarely do it unless it’s absolutely necessary (we discussed this extensively before you joined the forum). Every thread here has a specific concept, and maintaining that is vital.

I only went through with it this time—with certain caveats—strictly because I didn't want all that effort to go to waste.

However, if a user starts posting Offtopic content in a thread, my only option is to delete the whole thing if there isn't a dedicated thread for it. That was the only real dilemma here. 🙂

P.S. I also wanted to ask you to be more mindful of staying on topic moving forward, especially since we've already had to deal with private messages regarding this issue before. 🙂


Fine.

I appreciate that you respect the principles of "civil discourse" and aren't reacting out of sheer vanity. 👍 My own reaction was quite sharp. Or perhaps "blunt" is a better word.

One more thing: I believe my response—which is simply a matter of basic common sense—should have actually come from a moderator. This is a textbook empty phrase born from consumerist market trends; it's nothing more than a nicely packaged 🤮

🙏
Lisa Cox4 Lisa Cox4 Member
46 messages
joined Jul 2005
#8 ·
slycobra61 said:Fine!

🙂
Olivia Mitchell14 Olivia Mitchell14 Member
11 messages
joined Aug 2010
#9 ·
Lisa Cox4 said:Even the moderators can't really compete with you at this point. Besides, this isn't how people usually talk on the astrology boards, and honestly, it’s a bit of a tangent from what we're actually discussing here.

Exactly. On the astrology forums, you see much nastier language flying around all the time, yet somehow, nobody ever gets flagged for it.
Ryan Wilson2 Ryan Wilson2 Regular
387 messages
joined Dec 2002
#10 ·
For instance...?
Ryan Wilson2 Ryan Wilson2 Regular
387 messages
joined Dec 2002
#11 ·
Since you haven't bothered to reply, yet I see you've been busy churning out plenty of posts over on the astrology board in the meantime, I can only conclude this is nothing more than a blatant attempt at trolling. Honestly, I don't know what else to call this kind of baseless, unargumented whining.
Olivia Mitchell14 Olivia Mitchell14 Member
11 messages
joined Aug 2010
#12 ·
Ryan Wilson2 said:Since you aren't responding, and I see you've been busy dropping plenty of other posts over on the astrology board in the meantime, this feels like nothing more than a troll attempt. I honestly don't know how else to describe this kind of baseless whining.

I wasn't actually addressing you, mostly because it's pretty much expected for you to claim you "have no idea what I'm talking about." Besides, the issue regarding the crude behavior on the astrology boards has already been reported to the admins, so this little attempt at deflection is just ridiculous.

If Lisa Cox4 doesn't get my point—since she was the one I was actually speaking to—I'd be more than happy to copy and paste the exact posts I'm referring to.
hollowdriver18 hollowdriver18 Active Member
82 messages
joined Apr 2010
#13 ·
It’s just brilliant. Someone who’s spent years ruthlessly tearing pedophiles apart suddenly has issues with people using "inappropriate language."

I know how toxic the Chat can get. ☕

All I'll add is that all this sudden outrage over stupidity (🙄🤣) is nothing compared to the absolute filth you either created or helped build on Astra.

You should be ashamed.
Olivia Mitchell14 Olivia Mitchell14 Member
11 messages
joined Aug 2010
#14 ·
That’s just great. Look, Ryan Wilson2, you’re acting as the moderator here, yet you're out here "promoting" nothing but stupidity and rule-breaking. And then—shocker—you have the nerve to call me out for trolling, only for the actual culprits to show up themselves. 🤣

Anyway, hollowdriver18, what exactly did I "create" on the astrology board? Do you actually have something concrete to say for once, without all that smiley-face nonsense and those cryptic "big truths" that only you supposedly possess? It’s been months of you coming onto the astrology section and spitting on me, Grace Smith, Zulaj, and anyone else you deem an infidel... not to mention what you go on about in private messages, since we aren't supposed to discuss that kind of content here... and honestly, you haven't contributed a single shred of actual knowledge or useful info to that part of the forum with a single post. If you've got a problem, just say it plainly. You've admitted more than once that you don't really get astrology anyway. Personally, I never reach out to you, and neither does most of the crowd on the astrology boards, yet you just keep coming back, over and over, venting this frustration that seems to only exist in your head. As if opening a separate thread in Offtopic to dump all that "baggage" wasn't enough, you just have to keep circling back to the top... I don't get it. If I'm such a problem, just move on and leave it be. 🤷 It doesn't even cross my mind to talk to someone like you, who thinks they're being watched or followed when, in reality, they're the one doing the stalking. Honestly, it's a little weird to me.
hollowdriver18 hollowdriver18 Active Member
82 messages
joined Apr 2010
#15 ·
You know damn well you should've grabbed Perm unless you wanted to be left behind a million times over

But hey, that's on you🙂
Lisa Cox4 Lisa Cox4 Member
46 messages
joined Jul 2005
#16 ·
Olivia Mitchell14 said:I'll be more than happy to just copy-paste the exact posts I'm talking about

By all means.
Olivia Mitchell14 Olivia Mitchell14 Member
11 messages
joined Aug 2010
#17 ·
Just putting this out there so we aren't left in the dark. This is how hollowdriver18 and the moderator Lisa Cox comment on users over in the astrology section for their own private reasons—probably just because they don't like being told they're wrong.

hollowdriver18 said:ugh...
talking about "character" (:ce rek🙂 I owe you one, you have no idea :)
lately, things have just started explaining themselves to me—situations I’d been struggling to handle pretty unsuccessfully until now. They keep trying to convince me that's just how it is and there's nothing to be done :roll eyes:🤣

but for me, it's basic principle ☕

like I said, they’ve become laughable to me, even though at certain moments, if those people were actually standing in front of me, I might have been capable of committing a chainsaw massacre 🙂

honestly... I really admire you guys
seriously... if some ignorant, half-witted trash tried to lecture me and then, on top of every load of crap they spewed, decided to wink 🤣 ...aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa... they'd be dead (🙂) ...to put it in polite terms... I'd have removed them via expedited procedure without mercy, obviously

and what's even more hilarious is how some arrogant brat with those exact same traits tries to do the same thing while teaching you life lessons on the fly 🙂

and then there are the instant mothers, God forbid, with their scientifically justified missions that I won't even mention, not to mention the clones of sjajko and their sick fixations..
basically... everything here is tied together by sick fixations... and that's the worst part..:the saddest smiley face:
I can still handle and justify some level of embarrassment, but not this kind of sickness

anyway... I truly admire you, yeah... I could never do that 🤷

To these lovely compliments, Lisa Cox says:

Lisa Cox said:I get it. 🙂

Everything you wrote is spot on. But, so this doesn't spiral further, let's just conclude that there won't be any actual massacres—aside from a lot of spilled red paint.

But also, when there are people like you here (with eyes wide open and all the other senses sharp) to make the human beasts retreat into their holes. :simple truth: :principle of balance:

Recently, a mod pointed out how he thinks that with the increasing presence of the virtual world in people's lives, there will soon be a need for something like psychological rehab for moderators. Someone might say that's just an advanced AI idea—but clearly, it's more than that.

Just as a little heads-up, just so nobody accidentally falls for the lies hiding behind this friendly little smiley face 🙂 claiming that this astrology subforum is actually some kind of wholesome space.
Lisa Cox4 Lisa Cox4 Member
46 messages
joined Jul 2005
#18 ·
Olivia Mitchell14 said:When faced with these lovely little insults, Lisa Cox4 says:

So, you basically just ripped two posts straight from the Chat topic, so how about you actually answer the question:

Which specific rule are you even claiming the moderators broke regarding those Chat posts you decided to highlight?
Olivia Mitchell14 Olivia Mitchell14 Member
11 messages
joined Aug 2010
#19 ·
Lisa Cox4 said:So, you basically just copied two posts from the chat thread, so I'm looking for an answer to this:

Which specific rule of the forum are you actually claiming the moderators violated regarding those chat posts you highlighted?

It's about the way you're insulting users using nothing but pure ad hominem attacks. Just plain insults.

Then there's the issue of you accusing Sophia Adams63 of trolling—which seems to be your go-to move, apparently—after she made a single comment questioning blind faith in astrology (given how her entire post is framed), yet at the same time, you don't consider this trolling and aren't handing out any sanctions:

hollowdriver18 said:dziiiiiizs 🙄🤦😢

🤣

hollowdriver18 said:you described yourself, glad I didn't have to do that back then :)

hey, you're getting to me

I keep saying over and over that I don't really know anything yet🙂

but I've already realized several times that your understanding of astrology is quite... "flexible," if I'm being polite. It feels like you're constantly trying to fix things after the fact... and honestly, I just don't see you as some kind of authority in this field.😁
so I'll stop there and suggest we just continue to give each other a wide berth.
👍

So, someone who (and I'm quoting here) "doesn't know anything" is allowed to comment purely on a personal level about how they perceive someone else, 😁 and according to you, that's a perfectly fine post for discussion. Meanwhile, a post from VragjeUOvojzen was deleted, even though it was strictly on-topic.

There's more to it, but I can't really type very fast right now. 🙂
Lisa Cox4 Lisa Cox4 Member
46 messages
joined Jul 2005
#20 ·
So, you're out here acting like you're speaking for every single person on this forum? That’s just not how things work around here.

Look, you clearly missed the memo—if you're gonna make a complaint, you need to point out exactly which rule was broken and why *you* specifically have an issue with it.

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