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Malignant Tumors: General Q&A [Discussion on cancer risk factors]

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Edward Gray5 Edward Gray5 Newcomer
5 messages
joined Jan 2015
#81 ·
Maybe we should touch on prevention too—could a mod move this to the right subforum? I can't seem to find it... Anyway, to get animal cells functioning correctly—basically, to manage cell substance exchange—you really have to understand a few things:
1. the right nutrients
2. oxygen
3. keeping toxins and electromagnetic radiation below critical levels
4. maintaining a minimum electrical charge in the cell membrane—I believe it's around 100mV
5. a functional immune system which involves the thymus where "T-killer cells" mature , plus the spleen...
6. genetics

Aside from genetics, you can actually influence those first five points quite a bit. This time, I'll just focus on point number 4—what’s known as electro-medicine. Even the FDA recently cleared a few devices for treating things like brain tumors
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...65177938,d.ZGU

Electro-medicine really took off with a physicist named Bob Beck, who was promoting the Bob Beck protocol back in the 90s. The whole idea is based on research and patents from American universities suggesting that a tiny 100mA electric current could wipe out all viruses and parasites in the blood—including HIV!
If you search Google for Bob Beck "taka Back Your Power," you can dig deeper. There's an English lecture on YouTube right here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrmP5-uyql4

I don't have HIV, so I haven't tested it myself, but there's another huge effect from using the Bob Beck zapper to electrically stimulate cells. You can see it best through something called Darkfield blood analysis , so I'd suggest checking out some YouTube videos on that.

Basically, the arrangement and "vitality" of red and white blood cells before and after using a Bob Beck zapper is night and day --it's like heaven and earth... Red blood cells carry oxygen, which brings us back to point number 2 at the start...

Hulda Clark went a different route, trying to find a specific frequency (30kHz) to kill microbes, and I honestly think she headed down the wrong path. Still, there are scientific studies proving how electric fields affect cancer cells, like this one http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/co...64/9/3288.full

Another method involves deep cell stimulation via magnetic pulses. It's about restoring that natural electrical charge to cells that have been damaged or lost it due to aging. It's used for all sorts of things (the Russians were actually the first to use it for astronauts!), but for me personally—I once fell four feet straight onto my butt. It hurt for two months until I started using a device, then it was gone in a week! So, whether it's the thymus, spleen, or liver... it's all connected.

You can find more on the scientific studies regarding electro-medicine here http://geocities.com/a57ngel/bioelec...ctro-news.html
Carol Lopez23 Carol Lopez23 Member
30 messages
joined Apr 2005
#82 ·
Aside from the initial claim, the rest of this is nothing more than pure gibberish and a complete waste of everyone's time. It seems to stem from either sheer ignorance or a blatant desire for profit. The idea that electrical stimulation can kill HIV? Please. You could argue that alcohol kills it too, but you certainly wouldn't try to cure a chronic illness by becoming a lifelong alcoholic.
Angela Wright Angela Wright Regular
731 messages
joined Feb 2007
#83 ·
Edward Gray5, I honestly think quite a bit of what you wrote belongs over in the alternativa subforum. You're definitely playing in a gray area here, and this specific board's rules are pretty clear about sticking to discussions centered on mainstream, scientifically accepted treatments—the kind backed by actual randomized studies and solid evidence-based medicine.
velvetmoose9 velvetmoose9 Active Member
163 messages
joined Apr 2020
#84 ·
Look, let’s try to stick to the actual science here.
We really don't need any baseless or unproven claims floating around that might end up hurting people who are out there fighting for their lives against some of the most brutal diseases imaginable. That kind of stuff just doesn't belong here.
If you’re looking to dive deep into diet discussions, we’ve got an incredibly active and busy group over at PPDF Food and Wellness, and if you're interested in exploring different perspectives on healing, there's a super interesting thread over at PPDF Alternative Medicine.
Edward Gray5 Edward Gray5 Newcomer
5 messages
joined Jan 2015
#85 ·
Keith Gonzalez said:Everything besides what was first mentioned is just pure gibberish—total nonsense. It's either because they don't know what they're talking about, or they're just out for profit. Electrostimulation kills HIV? Seriously? Alcohol kills it too, but you wouldn't try to cure yourself by becoming a chronic alcoholic.

1. Hold on a second—did the FDA actually approve this device for distribution or not??? Do you even understand how the procedure works for getting an FDA approval for distribution here in the USA???
2. For Darkfield blood analysis—you should watch more than just one video. If anyone isn't sure, you can literally grab a Darkfield microscope for $400 on eBay... then you can see for yourself.
3. Check this patent http://www.google.com/patents/US5188738
"... with alternating current electric field forces of appropriate electric field strength to attenuate such contaminants to the extent that bacteria, virus, fungus, and/or parasites contained in the blood or other body fluids are rendered ineffective to infect and/or affect normally healthy human cells. The treatment, however, does not render the blood or other body fluids biologically unfit for use in humans or other mammals...

...Because of this problem, the present invention has been devised to attenuate any bacteria, virus (including the AIDS HIV virus) parasites and/or fungus contained in blood contributed by a donor to the point that any such contaminant is rendered ineffective for infecting a normally healthy human cell, but does not make the blood biologically unfit for use in humans...."

Well, that's exactly what it says...
melloworca6 melloworca6 Regular
551 messages
joined May 2010
#86 ·
I’ve been following your posts regarding health for a while now. You really love dancing right on the edge of the alternativa scene, especially when you bring up topics like childhood vaccinations or cancer—basically wherever people are panicking the most.

Look, just move over to the alternative forums and write whatever your heart desires there. I actually went and tried that blood analysis you keep talking about; sure, it’s great, but you pay good money only for doctors to completely dismiss the results. So, let’s stick to the alternative circles for this kind of stuff.
quietpilot23 quietpilot23 Member
29 messages
joined Jan 2019
#87 ·
Look, I might sound clueless here, but I gotta ask.

Is there any specific test, marker, or screening that can spot a tumor or early-stage cancer lurking in your system?

Here’s the deal: my girlfriend's mom had some uterine issues—pretty sure it was a tumor. Then her sister on her dad's side dealt with something similar in her ovaries.
Both of them already have two healthy kids, but they didn't catch these issues until after they hit 30.

My old man has diabetes, though it's mostly from stress. Now he's gone blind.
My brother beat leukemia when he was a kid, but I just went in for a checkup last month with Dr. Petrov and his wife; heart and vascular stuff all came back clean.

But I'm wondering if there's a test you can take that'll just flag anything suspicious or bad happening at a cellular level.
Thanks.
Grace Richardson24 Grace Richardson24 Member
44 messages
joined Jan 2022
#88 ·
Are you suggesting there's just one single test out there—one magic bullet—that can pinpoint absolutely everything wrong with a person's body?
Maybe one day, someday... but right now, that's pure science fiction.

As for tumors—IMHO, those tumor markers are actually quite specific (designed for certain types of tumors).
And from what I've gathered, they don't even show up as "positive" until the tumor mass reaches a certain size or weight...

Still, someone with a deeper understanding of the subject would probably be able to give you a much clearer explanation.
John Thompson53 John Thompson53 Newcomer
9 messages
joined Jan 2016
#89 ·
There’s a specific type of blood test... I can't recall the exact name of the screening right now. You should probably ask your primary care physician about it.
If they actually refer you for bloodwork based on those symptoms, and you're living in the D.C. area, you could go to any local hospital. Honestly, your best bet is to head straight to Johns Hopkins or maybe Mayo Clinic. You won't be stuck waiting months for a simple draw like you would at other facilities that lack the necessary markers.
I can't remember if it was Johns Hopkins or Mayo, but one of those two handles this specific test immediately without an appointment. You just show up at 7:00 AM on an empty stomach—or at least, that’s how it worked a few years back. Results were ready by the next day.

The alternative is having a specialist order an MSCT or an MRI. It’s essentially like an X-ray, but using a much larger machine to check if a tumor is growing or spreading within the internal organs or fatty tissue.
I had one of those scans once. They happened to spot a tiny "cyst" on my ovary. It wasn't even what they were looking for, but they felt obligated to warn me. As it turns out, my gynecologist later determined it was nothing more than a Graafian follicle—basically, I just happened to be ovulating that day.😁
quietpilot23 quietpilot23 Member
29 messages
joined Jan 2019
#90 ·
Look, I don't care if she's leaking or whatever, it's not my problem. But she definitely carries those genetic red flags since both her mom and sister have issues too.

Plus, she’s only 18 and she's already been through hell with all that stress.

Everyone keeps preaching about early detection, and honestly, that's the part I'm actually curious about.
Grace Richardson24 Grace Richardson24 Member
44 messages
joined Jan 2022
#91 ·
Look, dwelling on it just makes everything worse.
An eighteen-year-old should be living life at full throttle—without all those "what if" scenarios weighing them down.

I'll say it again: you simply can't predict what's going to happen to anyone or when it might strike.
Since there’s a family history of certain conditions, it's obvious that doctors would jump on any early warning signs much sooner to find a cause.
But if there aren't even any symptoms yet, why worry about it at all? It just creates this endless cycle of anxiety. I know—it's much easier said than done, but still... 😉
quietpilot23 quietpilot23 Member
29 messages
joined Jan 2019
#92 ·
She isn't even stressing about it. It’s more me than her, honestly. 😁

She dealt with some bladder and kidney issues back when she was a kid, but that's got nothing to do with what her mom or sister went through.

Same goes for my chronic bronchitis—totally separate from the diabetes and leukemia I picked up from the blood banks.

Look, you gotta relax and just live life. We're all trying. But if there are tests available, I'd rather just get them done and over with.
John Thompson53 John Thompson53 Newcomer
9 messages
joined Jan 2016
#93 ·
No doctor is going to order you any tests through Medicare if you aren't actually 😁
instead of enjoying your life and your health, you're out here hunting for diseases that don't exist...
for the average healthy person, an annual checkup with a gynecologist or urologist to run basic screenings is usually plenty. For everything else, a quick trip to your primary care physician is enough to get blood work, urine samples, or hormone panels ordered.

Even if you decide to pay out of pocket for these tests just for the sake of it, you're essentially throwing money down the drain. You might be perfectly fine today, only to deal with diabetes, an allergy, or something else entirely twenty years from now.
your health mostly comes down to your lifestyle and what you eat. A strong immune system is the best medicine there is, and you build that immunity while you're still healthy so that even the flu can't touch you.
stress is the primary culprit behind weakened immunity these days. People need to learn how to manage it so it doesn't tank their defenses.
If you ask me, you have to stay cool even when everything is falling apart around you. It’s all mental. Will you let stress take over, or will you find an outlet—exercise, a hobby, maybe meditation, or whatever keeps your mind off things and lets your body relax?
quietpilot23 quietpilot23 Member
29 messages
joined Jan 2019
#94 ·
Yeah, you're right. You gotta enjoy life while you can.

She did her Pap smear and all those routine checkups last year—pills, the whole nine yards—and the nurse told her they’d call if anything looked off. Nobody ever called. 😁

Now she's dealing with some bladder issues, but after seeing the doctor yesterday, turns out it's just a standard UTI. She got some antibiotics.
Eric Newman75 Eric Newman75 Active Member
137 messages
joined Jul 2011
#95 ·
Bryan Edwards83 said:I heard there’s a study coming out soon that backs up this whole topic, so I wanted to see if there's any truth to it. Basically, the lining of the mouth regenerates incredibly fast. My thought is that if we constantly bite at it out of habit, that constant high-speed cell turnover might actually trigger cancer. Look, I’m no expert, I just heard this was on the horizon, so let's see what happens.

I’d really appreciate it if some professionals here could weigh in and tell me if this holds water...

This is an old thread, but since nobody ever jumped in to answer you, I figured I’d share what I’ve learned from firsthand experience. Maybe it’ll help someone else.

If you smoke, pretty much any sore in your mouth becomes a risk factor. It gets even sketchier if you’re mixing alcohol with tobacco. Alcohol is a carcinogen too. You get a little bite, maybe a bad dental bridge or an unfiled crown scrapes your tongue—those little injuries can turn dangerous if the oral mucosa can't keep up its regeneration because of the smoking and drinking. "A little boozing, a little smoking—and boom, you've got cancer," is how my doctor at the Mayo Clinic put it. Dentists know this stuff inside and out; they’re always telling patients not to smoke for at least 24 hours after an extraction. In theory, almost all the cells in your mouth replace themselves within a month. If you have a wound that hasn't healed by then—get it checked out immediately.

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