What's going on at LJES?

wiredfalcon2 said:Honestly, my approach is pretty simple—I don’t even bother replying to stuff like that. I just sit back and wait until I can go in and delete those mindless posts myself. 😲😲😲

Honestly, if I could actually bite my tongue and just keep my cool for once, I might actually be able to look at things that way. 😁

hollowtrucker77 said:Just a quick heads-up: this PDF isn't exactly the best thing to be messing around with if you're looking to chat.

I’m not here to start an argument or pick a fight, I just wanted to point out that things feel a little too tight lately. Honestly, if you guys don't loosen up the reins a bit, you're going to end up killing the vibe of this forum exactly as it is.

It almost feels like people are acting as if the previous moderators weren't doing their jobs properly—which just isn't true at all. They were great at starting discussions that stayed relevant and active for months on end. Plus, they knew exactly how to handle things; a simple warning or a minor strike was usually more than enough to settle things down and keep the peace.

Hey mods, could you do me a quick favor? When someone asks me to bold a specific part of my post because I messed something up, could you actually go ahead and do that for me? I’ve mentioned this before, but honestly, if nothing else, it would just help me make sure I don't end up repeating the same mistake twice. It'd save us all a bit of a headache.
You know, it’s honestly such a drag when you actually take the time to ask someone for an explanation, only to have them completely shut you down or just brush you off with some "because I said so" nonsense. It’s incredibly frustrating when you're genuinely looking for clarity and they just decide to be dismissive instead of having a real conversation.😲

@Lord, I honestly have no idea why you felt like you were being called out there. ☕

hollowmason64 said:Look, @wiredfalcon2/">@@wiredfalcon2, what kind of constructive feedback am I supposed to give when some guy just wanders in here whining about how much his life sucks?
The only thing you can tell him is to take a hike and stop being such a loser. 😂

If this thread doesn't interest you, or if you think it's stupid or just don't have anything "intelligent" to contribute, then just don't post. It's as simple as that.

There’s really no need to tolerate people who feel the need to leave their mark on every single discussion with some mindless, pointless comment. ☕

hollowmason64 said:

I really can't say I agree with you on that one...

Lately, the quality over at LJES has taken a serious dive, hasn't it? You can practically count the smart, constructive discussions on your fingers! LJES is definitely living through its glory days right now. Sure, we mess around, we poke fun at each other—and hey, I know I tend to go a little overboard myself sometimes—but there used to be such great debates here, topics that actually taught you something. Lately, though, it feels like everything has just devolved into trolls starting threads just so we can tear them apart...

I honestly hope that these stricter new rules actually bear fruit and help raise the standard of conversation on LJES (even if it means I end up getting a warning or a penalty every once in a while).

If that’s how it works, then my apologies to the moderators. They were just following orders from above, so I’m shifting my critique toward the admins instead.

But look, if you're going to allow these silly, pointless threads to stay up, then you have to let us respond in kind. Honestly, nobody should be able to judge us for talking nonsense at 2 or 3 in the morning... that's just life in the US these days.😁
I still feel like you guys went a bit overboard with those bans. In my opinion, being that strict is just going to bury any real conversation under a layer of frustration. Even before I signed up here, I used to follow LJES, and it was never really meant for heavy, deep discussions anyway—which is totally fine, since there are plenty of other places on the internet for that.
I mean, I’ve laughed until I cried at some of the comments on here; it would be nice if we could have a little more "artistic" freedom every now and then. 👍

It’s true there are plenty of trolls on this forum who basically 🙂.

I have zero complaints. Whenever I’ve reported something, action was taken, and I’ve even taken warnings and bans myself for things I (knowingly) messed up.

I really dislike how every single thread gets swarmed by chatters like you wouldn't believe. It makes it impossible to follow the actual conversation, and sometimes the sarcastic comments just cross a line. I’m not targeting anyone specific here. Personally, I don't mind a bit of constructive sarcasm. But there has to be a limit. I noticed the new mods are cleaning up thread starters, which I appreciate (not directed at anyone in this discussion).

Summary: I agree with Sandra James88. I hope we see more intelligent, higher-quality topics on LJES soon. My time here has been very brief, though (to be perfectly honest), and I didn't write a single thing today because the trolling was just out of control...

Sandra James88 said:Lately, the quality on LJES has just tanked. You can count the smart, actually constructive threads on one hand. It's pathetic.

The new mods have only been on the job for a few days. We’re trying to bring back some actual constructive discussions around here. But honestly, what exactly do you mean by "recently"?

hollowmason64 said:Honestly, I’ve laughed my eyes out at some of these comments. Like, actual tears. You’d think they'd give us a little more "artistic" freedom around here, you know? Just a thought. 👍

Don't sweat it, I'm not wiping out the whole off-topic section. Most of the best jokes and absolute nonsense are staying right where they are.

Honestly, I’ve never been the type to report anyone. In my mind, you’d have to be willing to spit out a massive barrage of insults and nasty slurs just to feel like it was worth the effort—and even then, I don't think I would. I’d just ignore a loser like that. Giving them zero attention is usually the best way to handle it. 😉

Maybe it’s just because I can't stand whiners, both online and in RL. When people start acting like that, it really triggers this urge in me to just step on them. But I guess some people out there are just incredibly soft 🙄 especially when they open up a topic and immediately start crying about how mean everyone else is being.

Complaints like these are honestly the best sign that we’re heading in the right direction 😍

hollowmason64 said:Besides the sudden influx of new moderators who haven't even been introduced to us, they've implemented some new policy...

This used to be a place for good-natured ribbing where someone might occasionally get called out, but it was always done to keep the atmosphere fun.
Now we've reached a point where you have to triple-check how you respond to someone just so you don't accidentally hurt their feelings.

I actually got a warning the other day under the guise of trolling, simply because I responded a bit more sharply to a thread—and when you ask which part was trolling, you aren't even supposed to get an answer anymore, which is just absurd.
Please... if I ever start whining, I'll head over to Reddit or some psychology sub.
Most of the regulars still show up, and personally, I can't even remember posting anywhere else since I joined LJES—well, not until recently... but ever since this new batch of moderators arrived and started enforcing these rules, everyone has just scattered.
You're destroying our forum

Sorry, should I send over the new moderators' resumes right now, or would you rather wait a bit? ☕

It used to be a place for high-quality banter, but back then, you weren't even registered yet. 😉
That said, that quality banter was always seasoned by well-structured, constructive topics and thoughtful posts; it was never just mindless noise for its own sake.
The old crowd is mostly gone now, and the current group has firmly established itself. 😁

Which whining are you talking about? LJES has always stood apart from the US, but that doesn't mean it should become a mindless echo chamber. 🤷

wiredfalcon2 said:I think you'd be surprised to find out how many people don't post on this board at all because they have plenty of intelligent things to say, but they're put off by you and others who view this place solely as a "place for good-natured ribbing." Those are the people who leave a few constructive posts only to see them get lost in a sea of nonsense, so they stop participating altogether. This board is moving toward attracting the constructive types again (who, when they do joke around, tend to be much sharper and more intelligent than those who only care about being loud), and those of you who just want a playground can take your "good-natured ribbing" to a chat room or some other off-topic thread.

You wouldn't believe how exhausting it is for a huge number of people to read what you consider "good-natured ribbing." And for the record, the moderators aren't here for you; they're here to moderate.

I don't have anything to add to this,hollowmason64I think I've said more than enough already; we don't exactly owe anyone an explanation here.
Look, it’s pretty straightforward—you either write if you actually like the PDF, or you don't. It's really as simple as that.

hollowmason64 said:@eleuthera, I’m not really going to get into an argument about why you don't like my feedback regarding your post length. You aren't exactly the first person I've had to tell this to, and honestly, I don't see what the big deal is in just asking if you could keep things a bit more concise.
Unless your ego just can't handle the fact that we aren't all falling into a trance whenever you decide to drop a half-page manifesto quoting ten different posts across every single thread on the forum.
I don't really want to drag this whole thing out here; I just want us to reach some kind of middle ground regarding how much tolerance we're willing to show toward my favorite PDF.

There’s really no limit on how much you want to write here; we only step in to penalize those short, low-effort troll posts. 😉
If you think those massive, rambling essays from people like Eleutherini are just too much "philosophy" for your taste...😬Just because you feel that way doesn't mean you have to force it on everyone else or act like you're looking down on us. If people are getting on your nerves, that’s fine—just walk away.
You know, when you're scrolling through the forums, there are those moments where you just want to drop a single, sharp sentence to cut right through a mountain of bad logic in a massive thread, though other times you find yourself wanting to sit down and really unpack your thoughts in detail.
Even here, you're still doing it. It’s always funny how quickly people pivot to ad hominem attacks the second they run out of actual arguments.And she's back at it again, getting herself tangled up in those personal jabs; her ego—or rather, how she perceives it—isn't really the point here.

You aren't going to get a compromise that involves rolling up our sleeves just to watch LJES go down the drain; honestly, I think we’ve been way too soft on them rather than being too harsh. 😉

wiredfalcon2 said:Honestly, I'm just going to sit tight and wait until I can clear out those mindless posts myself.

But then you'd miss out on a chance to have some real fun, wouldn't you? Don't be like that. 😁

hollowmason64 said:Could you please ask the mods that if they're ever asked to bold a specific part of my posts—the parts where I'm supposedly in the wrong—to actually go ahead and do it? Like I mentioned before, even if it’s for no other reason than to make sure I don't end up repeating myself.
You know, it’s incredibly grating when you actually take the time to ask someone for a bit of clarity, only to have them completely shut you down or brush you off with some dismissive, "because I said so" nonsense.

Here she goes again... an admin beat me to this thread and actually agreed with my estimate after seeing that flagged post, so what else could you possibly need from me?

I don't really see the point in arguing against blatant, obvious insults that you can spot from a mile away. I just wanted to clarify that part of my policy involves cracking down on those passive-aggressive, thinly veiled insults too; things get murky with those types of posts, and if I don't step in, someone else might be way more lenient than I am, so I figured I'd just lay out how I handle things.

Sandra James88 said:I have to disagree with you there...

Lješ has honestly been sliding lately—you can count the smart, productive threads on one hand these days. It’s definitely seen better days. Sure, people mess around and poke fun at each other (and I know I go a little overboard myself sometimes), but this place used to host such great discussions and actually teach you something... lately, it feels like it's just trolls starting threads just so we can make fun of them.

I'm genuinely hoping these stricter rules actually pay off and help raise the bar for how we talk to each other here on LjES, even if it means I end up catching a warning or a penalty once in a while.

Finally, someone who actually gets it.🙂

wiredfalcon2 said:Don't worry, we aren't going to wipe out all the off-topic chatter. I actually think leaving some good banter in there makes things better.

I always try to leave room for a bit of fun; I don't feel the need to force everyone to stick strictly to whatever the original poster laid out, as long as people can tell the difference between actual quality banter and just posting nonsense for the sake of being annoying.🤷

Carol Nguyen63 said:I always try to keep the banter high-quality and I don't insist on sticking strictly to whatever path the OP laid out, but you’ve gotta know where to draw the line between decent, funny off-topic chatter and just mindless noise that exists for its own sake.🤷

obviously. when you're just some troll whose idea of peak comedy is typing "cut your dick off hahaha lol rofl lol," you clearly don't get how this works.