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Participants granitemarlin77Scott Cruz4hollowtrucker77Sam Green73Roger Reed49bluefalcon14Charles Martin2steeleagle70William Green4boldcyclist18dustypuma5
Roger Reed49 Roger Reed49 Active Member
88 messages
joined Jan 2008
#21 ·
steeleagle70 said:Rule 5 of the Politics subforum states:

Rule 5, Section 1 of the Politics Code of Conduct applies to the use of derogatory nicknames for both forum members and third parties. Therefore, from this day forward, malicious distortions of names such as: Sranjo (Franjo Tuđman), Vladimir (Čačić), Smranader (Joe) and similar, as well as malicious distortions of forum members' handles, will not be tolerated and will be sanctioned just like any other insult.

P.S.
Long-legged Vito, as the president, you should have the bylaws and these rules memorized by heart!😉


Look, Epithets are one thing, but those malicious name-twists you listed? That's something else entirely. It’s like you can't even see the difference, or maybe you just don't get what we're talking about here... I'm wasting my breath. Don't try to play lawyer, it's really not working for you.
steeleagle70 steeleagle70 Active Member
85 messages
joined May 2012
#22 ·
Roger Reed49 said:Look, nicknames are one thing, but intentionally twisting someone's name like you're doing with those examples? That's a whole different ballgame. It’s like you can't even see the difference, let alone grasp what's actually happening here. Honestly, I feel like I'm just talking to a brick wall at this point. Why do I even bother?

I don't get why you’re being so patronizing. You really think that tone makes your arguments any better in a normal conversation? And what's with always dancing right on the edge of an "incident"? Seriously?

I mean, I think everything’s pretty clear here, right? Of course, anyone can always play dumb if they want to. But when someone actually lays it out like that... what else is there to say? Joe Biden Barack Obama So, it's pretty obvious that's what we're talking about, right? Man, people really love throwing around insults on this board, don't they? Whether it's just messing with other members or taking shots at public figures, the nicknames fly fast. It’s kind of wild to watch sometimes. Anyone else noticed how quickly things turn into a roast session here?

Don't you dare try telling me that everyone else is doing it on other sites. We both know that’s no excuse for letting stuff like this slide here, right? And seriously, don't even try to claim that calling Joe Biden a slur isn't an insult. Let's be real.

Look, this isn't the place for us users to just go at each other. I’m not looking for a fight. I just wanted to point out which part didn't line up with the rules—just in case someone actually didn't realize it. You know, so nobody else ends up catching a ban next time. Wouldn't that be better? Just a heads-up from the mods or admins would be great here.

Look, if you’re just looking to start a flame war, I’m out. I’ve already laid it all out for you—clearly showing exactly which part breaks the rules and why. At the end of the day, it’s on you and everyone else here whether we actually want to follow them or not. If we don't? Well, we can't act surprised when we get banned. That's our right, isn't it? We have the right to get kicked off the platform if that's how we choose to play it.
Roger Reed49 Roger Reed49 Active Member
88 messages
joined Jan 2008
#23 ·
Look, you just aren't getting the rules, even though we laid out clear examples for you. I mean, why even bother providing practical examples if not to stop people from twisting things however they want? This whole "everyone interpret things their own way" vibe is a total pipe dream—honestly, it’s boring as hell. And honestly? Letting everyone just make up their own rules is pure stupidity. It never ends well.

steeleagle70 said:This isn't the place for users to just go at each other; we need the admins or mods to step in and give us their take.

So, what, are you an admin or a mod?
hollowtrucker77 hollowtrucker77 Regular
681 messages
joined Nov 2007
#24 ·
granitemarlin77, I’m officially pivoting from pure trolling over to just going off-topic here.
Roger Reed4, look, everything you need to know has already been laid out for you, so the ball is entirely in your court now.
William Green4 William Green4 Member
32 messages
joined Feb 2010
#25 ·
Charles Martin2 As stated by:

I find myself quite curious about this as well.
Because you see, even when it comes to how the media portrays someone like Barack Obama, they certainly don't hold back on the labels they use.
And still, not a single person has been held accountable. Is there actually something in the legal code that allows this kind of impunity?
When people discuss the legacy of figures like Franjo Tuđman, they often resort to various labels and epithets to define him. It makes you wonder—does any of that rhetoric actually hold weight when you look at the man's actual impact? Is there any truth behind those nicknames, or are they just part of the noise?

Hmm... I find myself sitting here, reflecting on the weight of it all, wondering where we truly stand in this unfolding situation. It’s one of those moments that demands more than just a passing thought; it requires a certain level of patience to really parse through the complexities. Sometimes, you have to step back and look at the broader landscape before you can make sense of the individual pieces moving around us. I'm still processing, trying to find the right angle to view this from.
As far as I am aware, that would be considered a verbal offense, which is something that has actually been abolished here in the States.
Actually, there’s another perspective to consider here.
Every single President of the United States has been elected through entirely legitimate processes, and personally, I refuse to disparage any of them. To do so would feel like a direct insult to the millions of American citizens who cast their votes and placed their trust in the system.
At the end of the day, we aren't really talking about what's written in the legal code or what the statutes dictate; it’s more a matter of individual character and personal decorum.
When you think about it, whether it’s an online forum, a news outlet, or any kind of media platform, the reality is always the same: someone owns it. And because there's an owner, they get to decide exactly how the game is played. They set the rules, establish the boundaries, and essentially dictate the terms of engagement for everyone else involved. It’s a fundamental dynamic—ownership naturally brings with it the power to define the landscape.
It is essential that we learn to draw a clear, definitive line between prohibiting outright insults and implementing actual censorship. One is about maintaining a standard of basic decency, while the other is about silencing thought itself.
For instance, if I were to suggest that Barack Obama was one of those individuals who essentially handed our leaders silver spoons from an artistic treasury just so we could keep them fed, that remains a plain fact. To impose a ban on discussing such matters would be nothing less than outright censorship.
Censorship is strictly prohibited under the US Constitution.
If I were to suggest that she essentially legalized a massive shake-down at the expense of the taxpayers just to line the pockets of certain artists, I suppose you could call that an insult. It’s a heavy accusation, certainly, but when you look at how the funds are being redistributed from the public coffers into private creative hands, it starts to feel less like policy and more like a calculated maneuver.
Look, I don't hold any official moderator status here, but that’s how I see the situation. I'm certainly not the only one who feels this way, and if you ask me, it is an absolutely valid perspective to hold.

In a courtroom setting, you can only be compelled to testify if he personally files a lawsuit against you, or if someone else brings a suit on his behalf because they felt personally insulted by your actions.
If you would just take a moment to review the PDF file, you'll see that everything I’ve been saying is absolutely factual.

P.S. If my memory serves me right, there’s some specific statute regarding the misuse of the national coat of arms, the flag, and official symbols—I can't quite pin down the exact legal code at the moment—but I am fairly certain that insulting the President isn't explicitly codified as its own distinct offense. That being said, I have to admit I'm a bit in the dark when it comes to how the law handles things like profanity or attacks on a leader's personal reputation and dignity.
Roger Reed49 Roger Reed49 Active Member
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joined Jan 2008
#26 ·
hollowtrucker77 said:Hey granitemarlin77, I’m officially switching gears—moving from just trolling to straight-up off-topic.
Roger Reed49, look, everything's been laid out for you plain and simple. It's all there on the table. Now? Now it's entirely up to you. What are you gonna do with it?

Unbelievable. Seriously, what am I even hearing right now? Since when is it such a crime to mention that awful Sheryl Sandberg in a negative light? Look, it’s not like I’m sitting here whining or complaining about my own life—so don't go pointing fingers at me. I'm not the one making demands. I’m just calling it like I see it. Is that really such a big deal? Just stating facts, you know?
bluefalcon14 bluefalcon14 Member
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joined Aug 2009
#27 ·
Roger Reed49 said:Unbelievable—is this really what I’m being told? That we shouldn't mention that tragic figure, Sheryl Sandberg, in a negative light? Look, I’m not complaining here, so don't go pinning this on me. I am simply pointing out the facts.

Since we are already discussing Sheryl Sandberg, why exactly is the topic regarding her off-limits...
granitemarlin77 granitemarlin77 Active MemberOP
133 messages
joined Jul 2009
#28 ·
Sam Green73 said:Suddenly you're being all constructive in this debate.

They can flip your post to off-topic whenever they feel like it.

You’re still messing with me—and it’s pretty damn obvious at this point.
Man, this isn't trolling or off-topic—your pathetic attempt to label your nonsense as "trolling" just proves it's actually just off-topic.
None of that crap applies here because I’ve stayed strictly within the topic, sticking to facts and reality.
Anyway, let's not lie to ourselves—you know exactly what you're doing. This isn't about "organizing the thread," it's about chaos. Just go back to that same thread and look at what it looks like now (seriously)—it's a total mess, and it's not just my fault.
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granitemarlin77 granitemarlin77 Active MemberOP
133 messages
joined Jul 2009
#29 ·
Quote:

hollowtrucker77 says:
granitemarlin77, I'm changing my post type from trolling to off-topic

There’s no such thing as off-topic here—it just doesn't exist. And you know it perfectly well.

Look, I honestly don't give a damn what you call this. Add a million points, hit me with a permanent ban, whatever—do your worst. But I'm speaking up because of the string of moves by Sam Green73 that are clearly heading toward pure disrespect and some kind of personal vendetta—a "crusade," if you will—all while trying to hide behind the excuse of "cleaning up" a thread.
I even filed a formal complaint during my three-day temporary ban, but nobody even bothered to respond. So yeah, this whole situation is even more pathetic than I expected.

I have zero intention of debating this further. Do whatever you want; everyone can see exactly what certain people are actually aiming for.
As far as I'm concerned, go ahead—just don't let the guy involved hide behind "thread moderation" or any other bullshit excuses. It doesn't hold water, and he knows it.

Feel free to 🙂
Sam Green73 Sam Green73 Active Member
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#30 ·
granitemarlin77 said:nobody even deserves a response

You're lying.
boldcyclist18 boldcyclist18 Newcomer
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joined Jul 2003
#31 ·
The way this site is being moderated is beyond disgraceful. ☕
It’s a toxic cocktail of pure spite and sheer incompetence. These moderators are basically power-tripping over individuals, fabricating excuses to hand out bans just to purge anyone whose views don't perfectly align with their own little bubble. And it isn't just random trolls they're targeting; it's the people actually contributing something meaningful. You can be incredibly dim-witted, you can spam nothing but emojis, you can flip-flop on every issue, troll, or insult—you can do whatever you want. The one thing you aren't allowed to do is present a coherent, argued point. If you do, they’ll suddenly claim you’re being offensive, trolling, or going off-topic just to justify slapping you with a penalty. There were hundreds of blatant examples of this ridiculous moderation in that last political thread, so I won't even bother listing them all.
It is shameful bullying and malicious, unnecessary bans—that is the hallmark of the mods running the politics section. I honestly don't know if the goal here is to cultivate a herd of mediocre yes-men who echo the mods' every word, or if this forum is actually intended to be a place for a genuine exchange of ideas.
Because let's be real: there is no exchange of ideas happening when every single opinion that differs from the moderators' views is met with a targeted ban. Whether the reason behind this is stupidity, malice, or just bruised egos doesn't really matter. What matters is that Sam Green73 and the rest of those incompetent mods are flagrantly abusing their authority.
bluefalcon14 bluefalcon14 Member
37 messages
joined Aug 2009
#32 ·
So, I’m still sitting here waiting for an explanation regarding the deletion of my thread... I even included a signature—though clearly, nobody notices or cares about that, apparently... This approach to political moderation is nothing short of shameful. Why not just be upfront and declare, "This forum represents these specific political views"? Instead, there is this pretense of independence, while it is blatantly obvious that certain political factions, organizations, or individuals are being shielded... Why was the thread about Moses shut down? Why was the discussion regarding the "Antifa" groups in New York City wiped out? Those are just a few examples—and one could easily list a "small million" more if they really wanted to...
dustypuma5 dustypuma5 Active Member
111 messages
joined Apr 2013
#33 ·
I guess it just feels like the Resonator is totally overloaded.
Maybe someone should step in and clean things up because it's just full of clones and trolls everywhere... Honestly, nothing in politics has even changed in the last five years...
Roger Reed49 Roger Reed49 Active Member
88 messages
joined Jan 2008
#34 ·
bluefalcon14 said:Since we're talking about Sheryl Sandberg, why on earth did they shut down the thread about her...


Because apparently, he thinks

that discussing the President's top advisor in the media is somehow off-limits.🤣
It’s just blatant protectionism, right? Just trying to shield someone... even if they actually do a good job.🙄😕
granitemarlin77 granitemarlin77 Active MemberOP
133 messages
joined Jul 2009
#35 ·
Sam Green73 said:You're lying.

Chill out.
You still can't hide how insufferable and annoying you are—and don't even get me started on the lies, because I’m trying to maintain some level of class here.
I wasn't actually looking for or expecting an answer from you regarding this complaint.
It’s pretty standard stuff to expect some unbiased person to look over a grievance (whether it's an admin, super admin, or whatever "rank" you guys claim to have) and give a response—
Because let's be real, only a moron would think you'd review a complaint objectively or provide a fair answer. It's all just "my way or the highway" with you.
Whether you want to admit it or not, you're just a regular guy who messes up just like everyone else.

Sam Green73, seriously, please just stop. Just quit it already, because this is going nowhere—all you're doing is proving my point that this whole thing has turned into a total joke.
hollowtrucker77 hollowtrucker77 Regular
681 messages
joined Nov 2007
#36 ·
Since the PM finally weighed in on this mess, I’m assuming everything regarding the capacitor and the resonator has been cleared up once and for all
Anyway, let's move the hell on

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