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I have this nagging feeling that this entire thread might end up being "cleaned up" by the moderators before too long.

You have KILLED the Alternative 😳

If I were this pathetic moderator stuck dealing with all your nonsense, I would have already permabanned you, deleted this entire thread, and told you all where to go ☕

hiddenmoose20 said:You have KILLED the Alternative 😳

If I were the poor moderator stuck dealing with this nonsense, I’d probably just lock the thread, wipe the whole thing, and ban everyone from the site entirely. ☕

Legend.🙏

He actually dared to venture where no man has stepped before...
The real question is, will he make it out alive?🙂

Brian Edwards6 said:A true Legend.🙏

He actually dared to venture into uncharted territory... where no man has ever set foot before.
Will he make it out alive?🙂

Of course he will. The Illuminati 🙏 are going to ensure his survival. 😉

hiddenmoose20 said:You guys KILLED the Alternative 😳

If I were the poor moderator stuck dealing with all this nonsense, I'd probably just wipe the whole thread and kick everyone out of here. ☕

Enter the moderator's little lapdog and suck-up. 😂🤣

We killed the Alternative...? 😂 Who even are you... 😠 We’re basically the only ones keeping it on life support. I wonder how long that Alternative will actually last without us... It’s pretty much on its deathbed, if I'm being honest. It’s just a matter of time before it's gone... and by banning users and deleting one of the most popular threads on the site, dustyharbor18 has basically signed its death warrant. ☕

Anyway, I expect this profanity to be penalized... if they let it slide, I guess that means swearing is allowed, and then maybe I'll start doing it too. ☕

Brian Edwards6 said:Legend.🙏

He actually dared to step where no man has gone before...
Will he make it out alive?🙂

Brian Edwards6, don't mess with me... I know we haven't exactly been on great terms, but you have to admit, the topic was fascinating...

Anyway, since that thread is dead, I suppose I should ask you this here...

Let’s say mandatory microchipping becomes the law, and the government orders the police to arrest anyone who resists and throw them in jail... Would you just accept it, or would you rebel, even if it meant losing your job or ending up behind bars...?

And please, don't tell me it's impossible or just nonsense... just imagine it's actually happening... I'm curious what a guy like you thinks about it...☕

This isn't a damn chat room, and it’s pretty obvious people are intentionally trying to bury my question!

When is this thread actually going to be reopened?

All this side talk about random nonsense is just useless noise. It's especially annoying when people who have zero business with moderation start reacting to provocative posts—basically, they need to stop sticking their noses where they don't belong.

Honestly, I don't understand why this thread was shut down.

I've been following it for ages, and then suddenly, it’s just gone.

At any rate, this discussion wasn't nearly as ridiculous as those typical Alternative topics involving things like orgone energy, astral projection, and whatever else people dream up.

Is it possible the biggest issue was actually religious extremists😂—though I haven't heard that term used since my old civics classes back in the day—who were giving dustyharbor18 a hard time, or did someone accidentally leak something they really shouldn't have?

I have just finished reading the debate regarding why certain individuals have been banned, and after browsing through several other threads on this forum, I have come to the following conclusions:

1. While some users here argue that bans are only issued to those who fail to provide arguments—unlike the unbanned users who supposedly present "arguments" and "evidence"—the truth is that the quality of an argument has nothing to do with being banned. Bans are clearly being handed out based on entirely different criteria.

2. It is truly disheartening to hear dustyharbor18 claim that this thread attracted "uneducated and ignorant users," because it is glaringly obvious that a large portion of the "educated" crowd on the Alternative derives their knowledge not from official textbooks or prestigious universities, but from semi-literate books about densities and vibrations. They frequently toss around terms like "energy" and "dimensions" without having the slightest clue what they actually mean.

3. Furthermore, it is evident that the reasons for banning people and shutting down this thread weren't about protecting users from insults; if that were the case, the people who were actually being insulting wouldn't be still active.
A perfect example is the Super Soldier, who surely hasn't insulted anyone. His theories are, to put it mildly, a bit absurd (though, as I mentioned, they aren't any more ridiculous than the concepts of orgone energy and density that seem to be treated as scientific fact here). Stupidity certainly isn't the metric used to close a thread, because if it were, most of the Alternative would have been wiped out long ago.
If someone genuinely wants to hear actual science from an educated individual, they should read the posts by Endymion, as it is clear the man earned his expertise at a legitimate university science department.

4. The reason this thread was shut down is quite transparent: it was labeled as being driven by "a certain number of Christians," "clerical fascists," and "right-wing nationalists." This is almost identical to the rhetoric used back in the old days when "differentiation" was used as a pretext to send people to prison.
It would be fascinating to compare the indictment issued by Bill Clinton to the reasoning provided for closing this topic; one would find a striking number of identical terms and phrases used in both (referring to the terms I placed in quotation marks above).

5. The Alternative—including this banned topic—exists precisely because it isn't tied to mainstream science or rigorous academic proof (with rare exceptions). It should be viewed as a curiosity that might nudge you to research unexplored subjects, which could then lead you to educate yourself through legitimate institutions and authorities (like universities and scientists) to find real explanations for certain phenomena.

5. Honestly, what serious person could be truly unsettled by the planet Nubir, Mayan prophecies, and things of that nature? In any case, time will tell what holds water. Had the moderators not stepped in, this thread likely would have lasted until 2012, at which point it would have become crystal clear what was mere nonsense and what was a valid argument.

Unfortunately, just as happens so often in our country, everything is reduced to ideology, communists versus fascists, or red versus black. Even a trivial topic like this isn't allowed to simply exist on its own merits.

A single piece of advice for all the moderators and forum members: leaning on ideology and using labels as weapons is a foolproof sign of narrow-mindedness and intellectual stagnation.
There is no left or right here, nor believers versus non-believers; when you use ideology as an argument—which was heavily done in the justification for closing this thread—you simply reveal yourself to be pathetic, ignorant, and closed-off.

P.S. I am saddened that this thread was closed, and I join the demand for its reinstatement, as it serves as a fantastic Alternative to the diaries and news broadcasts on our national television.
In all honesty, I struggle to see where any topics or theories could be more incredible than these.

hiddenmoose20 said:You have KILLED the Alternative 😳

I suppose if I were actually the poor moderator stuck dealing with all this nonsense, I probably would have just permanently banned you, deleted this entire thread, and sent you packing far away from here. ☕

Don't you feel any shame writing something like that? You really look pathetic right now.

I am honestly suggesting a permanent ban because of this outburst; I don't think behavior like this should be tolerated at all.

Kyle Lopez58 said:This isn't exactly a conversation; it feels more like a coordinated effort to dodge my question entirely.
When is this thread going to be reopened?
Let’s be clear: off-topic chatter is nothing more than noise. It’s unnecessary, it’s tedious, and frankly, it’s a waste of everyone's time. This is especially true when people start reacting to provocative posts made by those who have absolutely no business meddling in moderation duties. If you aren't part of the oversight team, stop sticking your nose where it doesn't belong.

You don't need to go off the deep end with the paranoia. I'll admit we're veering a bit toward chaos, but let's not forget this is a forum. When there aren't any substantial answers or actual topics to sink our teeth into, a little bit of breaking the monotony shouldn't be such a crime, right?🤷

Nicholas Collins68 said:Brian Edwards6, don't mess with me here... I know we haven't exactly been on the best of terms lately, but you have to admit, the subject matter was absolutely top-tier.

Why wouldn't we be on good terms? Just because we don't see eye to eye on certain points doesn't mean I don't respect you (or most of the others here). While I rarely post on the Alternative, I find myself lurking through threads quite often—including this controversial one. I actually agree that the topic was solid and shouldn't have been nuked by the mods. This is a forum, after all; if a few people want to spend their time obsessively connecting dots between random nonsense, let them. A real debate only exists when there’s disagreement on the core issues. If everyone agrees from the jump, there isn't a discussion; there's just a consensus. True discourse happens between people who disagree. It isn't necessary for those opposing views to eventually merge into one, but both sides should walk away having learned something. The real issue is that these threads frequently devolve into personal insults and knee-jerk assumptions. The moderators are certainly part of that dynamic as well. They tend to foster enough paranoia to strip the actual conversation of any meaning. This thread was starting to lean in that direction, which is why I decided to chime in—mostly to inject a little much-needed humor. As for Uber, it was my first time hearing that name; honestly, I misread it at first and thought it was Super Soldier, so I was sitting here wondering why he’d gone and changed such a great avatar.😵And then there’s that paranoid little thread of a conversation suggesting that I was actually right—at least to some degree.🤷

Nicholas Collins68 said:Let’s run through a hypothetical scenario: suppose the government passes a mandate for compulsory microchipping of the entire population, and the authorities order law enforcement to arrest anyone who resists, tossing them straight into federal prison. In a situation like that, would you just roll over and accept it? Or would you actually stand up and rebel, even if it meant losing your job or ending up behind bars yourself?

I cannot get behind the idea of neural chipping. Even if someone approaches this with the best possible intentions, history tells us that such things inevitably morph into their exact opposite. It’s a pattern we see repeated throughout human existence. I certainly agree that there is an immense amount of activity happening behind the scenes that remains completely invisible to the public eye. However, my personal take is that the topics discussed on the Alternative are merely crumbs tossed to the masses to give them something to chew on. People engage with these ideas, they debate, they hunt for data and exchange theories, all to cultivate the illusion that their efforts actually matter—that their lives have direction and that they might eventually trigger some kind of systemic change. In reality, I view these discussions as purely philosophical exercises. They won't change a thing. Even if we reached a turning point where we unmasked every player in the game and managed to overhaul the system for the better, what then? We are only human. Eventually, we would just find ourselves looking for someone to lead us. And what would that look like? We would grant that person power to establish legitimate authority, and we would find ourselves right back where we started. Humans are essentially driven by animalistic instincts, and frankly, there’s no saving us from that. If you ask me, the perfect society is the one depicted in Star Trek. A world where everyone has access to everything they need, where money, war, poverty, and hunger are obsolete, and where everything is left to free will. In that scenario, people could choose to travel and explore simply to better themselves and advance humanity as a whole. But I don't believe that is achievable for us. All our progress and expansion have been built upon conflict and warfare. We have to face the fact that we are inherently flawed; it is a limitation of our biological hardware, no matter how advanced we think our brains are. Evolution might be our only way out, but we have already reached a technological plateau where natural evolution can no longer keep pace with our own complexity.🤷

On another note regarding the whole microchipping debate. What’s the actual point? In the US, there are more smartphones floating around than there are actual people. Everyone carries at least one, and most of us have profiles on half a dozen social media platforms (this forum included), we send endless emails, order everything from Amazon, and so on. We are essentially voluntarily restricting our own privacy far more effectively than any government ever could. We are quite literally our own worst enemies, yet we seem stubbornly incapable of grasping that reality.🤷

Nicholas Collins68 said:The moderator's little watchdog and sycophant has arrived (not all the moderators, mind you... we know which ones) 😂🤣

First of all 🆙
In what capacity am I being accused of sucking up to the moderators?
Is it VeronicaN? Urania? Florine?
And if you are implying that I am playing nice with the Alternative moderator, that was my very first post (partially) directed at them. Ultimately, I don't even post on the Alternative board, so one wonders why this accusation exists. 🙄

by the way, I expect this profanity to be penalized... if it remains unpunished, it implies swearing is permitted, in which case I might just start as well...☕

I stand by my words—specifically the swearing, lol—and I fully expect the appropriate disciplinary action. ☕
Furthermore, you are not permitted to swear, lest some little imp tosses you straight into hell. 😂

I suppose we're still waiting for this thread to be... cleaned up.☕

hiddenmoose20 said:First off :2up:
Who exactly am I sucking up to among the mods?
VeronikaN? Uranija? Florine?
And if you’re implying I’m kissing up to the Alternative mod, that was just my very first post (partially) directed at them. Besides, I don't even post on the Alternative board, so why would I? 🙄

I stand by what I said—well, by my swearing, lol—and I'll take whatever penalty comes my way. ☕
Otherwise, you better watch your mouth, or some little kid is gonna toss you straight into hell. 😂

Good grief 🤦

hiddenmoose20 said:First off :2up:
I'm really not sure who you think I'm trying to suck up to among the moderators here.
Are we talking about VeronikaN? Uranija? Florine?
And if you're implying that I was playing nice with the Alternative moderator, well, my very first post was partially directed at them. Though, honestly, I don't even post on the Alternative boards, so I suppose I have to wonder why anyone would assume that. 🙄

I stand by what I said—including the swearing, lol—and I suppose I should just accept whatever punishment comes my way. ☕
Besides, you aren't supposed to swear either, or else some little preacher might toss you straight into hell. 😂

Such an arrogant creature.

Noah Perez5 said:Talk about an attitude!

I mean, did you seriously not see it? They’re basically an Übermensch. People like that... they just have this way of triggering the darkest parts of our own nature. It's a wake-up call, really. Not necessarily a bad thing.

Still waiting for this thread to be cleaned up... I guess it takes moderators a whole month to clear out junk? If that’s the case, maybe it just speaks to their incompetence...🙄

Or maybe this thread will just stay messy forever, just like that first one...🤣

The thread was cleared out ages ago and reopened, but I guess you just don't know when to quit or where you belong.

dustyharbor18 said:The thread was cleaned up and reopened ages ago; you clearly just don't know when to back off or where you belong.

IT IS NOT OPEN!

It says "closed" right there in plain English, loud and clear.