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stormystag43 stormystag43 Member
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joined Nov 2009
#21 ·
rustyscout34 said:What makes it a genius, exactly—and in what way? Are we talking "genius" like Behind Enemy Lines or more along the lines of Citizen Kane? Come on, Mr. Critic... 🤣

The movie is a masterpiece across the board. Honestly, it looks like you just completely missed the irony in Behind Enemy Lines. I can see that being called a "film critic" really bruised your ego. Look, I’m not some self-proclaimed film critic like you—and trust me, I don't want to be—but most people are raving about this thing, and frankly, I've heard enough. You're still out here nitpicking every tiny detail, searching for flaws where there aren't any. Maybe you should stop complaining and go shoot a decent movie of your own so you can actually blow us all away. You clearly have the potential, so go for it.🙂
rustyscout34 rustyscout34 Active MemberOP
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joined Aug 2009
#22 ·
stormystag43 said:The movie is brilliant, period. I guess you’re the only one who missed the irony in Behind Enemy Lines. It looks like that "film critic" title really stung your ego. Look, I’m not some self-proclaimed critic like you, and I don't ever want to be. Most people are out here saying they love the film, and honestly, that's enough for me. You’re still over here nitpicking every tiny detail. Maybe if you actually made a decent movie yourself soon, you could blow us all away. You know you can do it.🙂

I can smell one thing clearly from this post—and honestly, most of your others too. It’s an obvious, desperate message screaming from your gut: you just want to fight. I hate to break it to you, but I'm not interested. My role here doesn't involve playing along with these little virtual tantrums that seem so typical of some rebellious teenager going through puberty.

How does behavior actually change? I guess it’s a complicated question. Maybe it happens, maybe it doesn't. It's hard to say for sure.

One of those common stereotypes is that kids basically give you a heads-up right before puberty hits. I guess I’m just being difficult and rebellious. Maybe. Parental bashing. Look, sure, there are cases where kids go totally off the rails, but most aren't like that. I guess the whole point of being a teenager is just trying to find some independence. They need to pull away from their parents, especially the ones they were closest to. Usually, it just looks like they have different opinions or they don't want to be around you as much. As they mature, they start thinking more abstractly and rationally, and they begin to develop their own sense of morality. If you notice rebellion or resistance, maybe you should look in the mirror first. Are you being too harsh? Are you being too controlling? Are you actually listening to them? Do you even let them think differently than you do? Kids need to change their behavior sometimes; they’re just trying to stand on their own two feet. Maybe they can just desperately try to fit in and impress their peer group. Let them experiment with different looks and eventually realize they aren't like everyone else.

Look, I’m listening to you politely here. I'm even letting you have your own opinions and impressions about... The Chronos Crimes / Behind Enemy Lines You call them genius films, but clearly you’re struggling to wrap your head around my take. Whether it's pure ignorance, a lack of knowledge, or just plain laziness, you can't seem to find a single valid counterargument. Instead of actually engaging, you just mock my perspective by calling me some "self-proclaimed critic." Look, Mario, I don't have any delusions of grandeur here. I just want to exchange a few meaningful—hopefully well-reasoned—thoughts on these movies. For the sake of this thread and anyone else reading this who actually wants a decent discussion, please stop responding unless you actually have something constructive to add. The Chronos CrimesThanks. 👍
stormystag43 stormystag43 Member
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#23 ·
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rustyscout34 said:From this post—and honestly, most of your other crap—I can smell one very obvious, blunt message screaming from the bottom of your throat: you just want to fight!!! Unfortunately, I’ve gotta disappoint you because my role here doesn't involve playing along with these little virtual tantrums that seem so typical of some rebellious teenager going through puberty.

Look, I’m listening to you politely enough. I’ll even grant you having different takes or impressions regarding The Chronos Crimes as being brilliant films, but judging by your tone, you’ve got a problem with *my* take. Whether it's out of ignorance, pure stupidity, or maybe just total helplessness, you can't find a single valid counterargument. Instead, you just mock my (fairly detailed) impressions by calling me some "self-proclaimed critic." Eh, listen, stormystag43, I don't have those pretentious ambitions; I just want to exchange a few meaningful—hopefully well-argued—sentences about how the movie landed. For the sake of this thread and the decent readers here, I’m asking you to stop responding unless it actually contributes to The Chronos Crimes. Thanks. 👍

Don't make me laugh, claiming you use actual arguments in your movie reviews. Nobody wants to fight. It’s obvious you’re just spewing an incredible amount of nonsense, as usual. Clearly, nobody is actually having a reasoned debate about the film in your thread. Your thread is weak. Nobody cares about your "deep" film analyses. You need to chill. Regarding your "detailed" impressions of the movie—I think it would work way better as a horror flick, but because of all that idiocy (meaning it requires a massive suspension of disbelief) and that deterministic view of time, I just can't give this little movie a passing grade—No passaran!
Buhahahhahahahahahahha!!! That's all I've got to say. I'll leave your incredibly "dynamic" and "well-argued" thread alone now.
David Price5 David Price5 Regular
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#24 ·
Here is the plot summary from Hector2.

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Hector 2 shows up having traveled 90 minutes back in time. A scientist tells him the only way to restore normalcy is to let things play out naturally without any interference. The plan is to put Hector 1 into the machine to try and reset everything to "normal." If anything goes wrong and disrupts Hector's entry into the machine, Hector 2 will cease to exist—and perhaps our entire reality will go with him. But Hector 2 faces a dilemma: that version of Hector is currently at his house, living with his wife. Plus, there is still the issue of the maniac with the scissors. Even if Hector 1 disappears, Hector 2 remains a problem.
He decides to take the car to shadow Hector 1, maybe look for his wife, or even spot the person with the scissors. While driving, he runs into a girl and realizes she is the one from the woods. He pulls over, but an unknown assailant strikes him. When he wakes up in the car, he clutches his head and realizes his attacker looked just like him. Once the girl arrives, his suspicions grow. After she pulls out the scissors, he is certain she is the woman with the blades and knows what he has to do. He has to ensure Hector 1 goes into the machine, which means he has to lure the girl into the woods.
He grabs a coat, and the two head into the forest. There, he forces her to take off her shirt so Hector 1 will notice her. After a while, she tries to run, they struggle, and she is knocked unconscious. He strips her clothes and positions her so Hector 1 finds her. He intentionally stabs himself in the arm, then Hector 1 flees. He knows his next move is to scare him using a "peek-a-boo" binoculars trick. It takes four attempts, but he finally succeeds. Hector 1 bolts toward the lab. Hector 2 is nearly finished with his task, but then he hears a woman's scream and realizes
the girl is in trouble.

She has become his biggest complication. Even if Hector 1 vanishes, the identity crisis regarding the masked attacker with the scissors persists. They would eventually track him down because of his injury and fingerprints. He returns home only to find her inside. He tries to convince her to run and tells her not to be afraid. After an accident on the roof, he realizes he accidentally killed his wife. He concludes the only way to save her is to go back in time himself and try to stop it all.

He takes her car, pulls up to the facility, and scares Hector 1 through the window. Once Hector 1 enters the machine, Hector 2 tells the scientist he’s going in too. After a heated argument, the scientist admits that Hector 3 told him to do whatever it takes, but specifically warned Hector 2 not to enter the machine. Hector 2 has no idea what Hector 3 was doing out there. He hasn't met him as Hector 2 or as Hector 1. He realizes that if Hector 3 actually used the machine, then Hector 2 must have successfully entered it; otherwise, Hector 3 wouldn't exist. He searches frantically and finally finds the necessary "battery." He enters the machine and becomes Hector 3.

He gives advice to the scientist and hides behind the machine as Hector 2 exits. Hector 3's goal is to get home as fast as possible, hide, and somehow save his wife's life. He heads down via a golf cart but finds the doors locked. He needs a faster vehicle, so he grabs a red van. He follows Hector 2 and causes a collision. After the crash, he realizes it was all for nothing. Hector 3 is the one who set this whole thing in motion. Everything is predetermined; every move he makes is already set. No matter what he does, he can't prevent his wife's death or escape this time loop. He tells the scientist to stop Hector 2 by any means necessary, knowing it's futile and that Hector 2 will likely hit him with a crowbar for saying it.

He hears the girl screaming and tells her that he, too, is a troubled man. Injured, the girl leads him to a nearby house, only for him to realize she has brought him to his own new home. There, he finds his wife and remembers a detail: she wasn't wearing the red coat. He hides his wife and sets up a ladder. He gives the girl his wife's coat and cuts her hair, effectively sentencing the girl to death. He brings his wife to a lounge chair in the yard, knowing these are their final moments together. Once Hector 2 enters the machine, it's over. The cycle begins again.

A scientist fires up his machine and encounters Hector 3, who insists he must follow orders...
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Edward Price6 Edward Price6 Active Member
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#25 ·
Well, I didn't actually start this thread, but my brain led me here while I was a little tipsy (haha)
kind of pulled me in.
Anyway, it’s a truly phenomenal movie. Even though I mentioned earlier that it might be a few points better than Triangle, I've changed my mind. After all, I've watched Triangle several times now and it still fascinates me.
For sure, this film stays in my top 10.
Maybe, if I can stay conscious after watching Triangle, I'll give this one a go too.
If you haven't seen it, highly recommend it if you liked Looper.
It's basically a much lower-budget version dealing with time travel..
Rachel Ortiz33 Rachel Ortiz33 Active Member
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joined Jul 2012
#26 ·
not really feeling the vibe here today, but I caught this movie a few years back and it was honestly killer. left me with a ton of questions at first, but once I puzzled through all the weird bits, everything clicked. definitely one of those top-tier time travel flicks where the logic actually holds up without being a total mess.
granitescout99 granitescout99 Newcomer
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#27 ·
It’s a simple question. Who does Hector look at first in the woods? 🙂
hollowtrucker27 hollowtrucker27 Newcomer
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joined Oct 2012
#28 ·
granitescout99 said:It really boils down to one simple question: who is the very first person Hector looks at in the woods? 🙂

Here you go. The concept of the predestination paradox is such a fascinating rabbit hole to fall down, isn't it? It’s one of those mind-bending ideas that makes you question the very fabric of causality. You start thinking about how an event could be both the cause and the effect at the exact same time, creating this infinite loop where the beginning and the end are inextricably linked. It really challenges our standard perception of linear time, doesn't it? I find myself constantly pondering whether we actually have agency in our lives or if we're all just following a script that was written before we even arrived. It's a bit dizzying, but honestly, there's something strangely comforting about the idea that everything might already be set in stone. It seems we’re running into an issue with this particular method of time travel. To be clear, I don't think we're looking at a plot hole in the film's narrative logic, but rather a genuine paradox that arises naturally from the very mechanics of how time travel works in this universe. If you check Wikipedia, you'll see... I've been looking over this list. It’s quite fascinating how often you see that particular paradox popping up in fiction, wouldn't you agree?

Personally, I found the movie to be absolutely fantastic; it’s easily one of those rare gems in the time-travel genre that actually manages to stick to its own internal logic without breaking its own rules.
granitescout99 granitescout99 Newcomer
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#29 ·
hollowtrucker27 said:That’s just a predestination paradox caused by how time travel works in this setup. It isn't a plot hole; it’s a paradox inherent to the physics of the trip itself. You can check this list on Wikipedia to see how often this pops up in fiction.

Personally, I think the movie is great. It's one of those rare time travel flicks that actually sticks to its own internal logic.

A-ha. Thanks.
It felt clunky to me, which is why it bugged me, but I'll take it for the sake of fiction. Actually, in The Chronos Crimes, we don't even see the first time they enter the machine or the reason behind it, right?
The whole paradox thing usually plays out where someone heads to the past or future to change something—usually to stop something bad from happening—but ends up triggering the exact sequence of events they were trying to dodge. Honestly, I'm overthinking it. If it's a paradox, it's bound to feel nonsensical at some point.
I've always been more into parallel universes.

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Actually, let me correct myself: a paradox doesn't necessarily have to be illogical.😁
mistybison mistybison Regular
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joined Aug 2008
#30 ·
Terry Morris41 said:I think this is one of those rare time-travel movies that actually holds up without leaving you with too many plot holes or logical inconsistencies.

I recently rewatched it, and I have to agree with that assessment. 🙂

It is a fascinating film and certainly worth watching if you enjoy the time-travel genre.
Samuel Scott54 Samuel Scott54 Active Member
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joined Mar 2009
#31 ·
I honestly can't believe that movie actually covers that theme. It's actually one of my all-time favorites, and it's a Spanish film.

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