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Why are TV shows rated higher than movies?

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Michael Harris20 Michael Harris20 MemberOP
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#1 ·
I was just scrolling through IMDb looking for some movies when I stumbled upon a bunch of series... and man, I realized most of them are rated between an 8 and 10. Honestly, they seem even better than the movies.

What do you guys think is the reason for that? Is it because people have more patience when they're following a series over several seasons, or is there something else going on?

I mean, personally, I’ll always prefer a local production over something like *The Sound of Music*.

Do Americans just have different standards, or do they simply prefer series more? What's your take on this?
David Price5 David Price5 Regular
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#2 ·
People sometimes get a bit carried away with their ratings. The real issue is that TV shows span multiple seasons, which rarely follow a straight line. One season might take a dip, another might peak, or the quality might just steadily decline over time. Not to mention how much individual episodes can vary. Most viewers realize this and tend to give high scores, but you also have to acknowledge the trend: over the last decade, TV series have simply become better than movies.
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Michael Harris20 Michael Harris20 MemberOP
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#3 ·
David Price5 said:People sometimes get a bit carried away with their ratings. The real issue is that TV shows span multiple seasons, which rarely follow a straight line. One season might take a dip, another might peak, or the quality might just steadily decline over time. Not to mention how much individual episodes can vary. Most viewers realize this and tend to give high scores, but you also have to acknowledge the trend: over the last decade, TV series have simply become better than movies.
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That's true... though I tried watching a couple of seasons of Breaking Bad once and just burned out. I honestly don't get how someone can sit through all five seasons and give it a 9.6 rating. You clearly have to be some kind of fanatic or something... it really stood out to me. There's definitely something else at play there.
Terry Scott34 Terry Scott34 Member
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#4 ·
Michael Harris20 said:I was just scrolling through IMDb looking for some movies when I stumbled upon a bunch of series... and man, I realized most of them are rated between an 8 and 10. Honestly, they seem even better than the movies.

What do you guys think is the reason for that? Is it because people have more patience when they're following a series over several seasons, or is there something else going on?

I mean, personally, I’ll always prefer a local production over something like *The Sound of Music*.

Do Americans just have different standards, or do they simply prefer series more? What's your take on this?

Wait, what kind of example is that even? 🤣
There’s plenty of absolute garbage out there in both series and movies—just like there are gems.

***

Anyway, I was wondering about that ages ago too! But honestly, comparing the two isn't really apples to apples. My take—and it's the only thing that makes sense to me—is that we just tend to have lower (or maybe just different?) expectations for a series compared to a movie...
silvergardener6 silvergardener6 Member
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#5 ·
Michael Harris20 said:That's true... though I tried watching a couple of seasons of Breaking Bad once and just burned out. I honestly don't get how someone can sit through all five seasons and give it a 9.6 rating. You clearly have to be some kind of fanatic or something... it really stood out to me. There's definitely something else at play there.

I suppose that show is actually one of the best of all time, definitely in the Top 3. You might start to see what people mean once you reach season 4 or especially season 5. Those first two seasons can feel a bit slow; for instance, I found the first season of GoT to be somewhat tedious.

Most of the great series we see today are arguably better than 99% of movies. I think it’s probably because when you're making a film, you're so limited by having to cram everything into two or three hours while still trying to maintain high quality, if not better.

BB, GoT, House of Cards, Hannibal, AHS, and True Detective—those are my absolute favorites.
Angela Alvarez10 Angela Alvarez10 Member
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#6 ·
To me, it honestly feels like TV shows can actually be higher quality than movies. It’s kind of fascinating, really—how a writing team tasked with crafting 22 episodes per season can deliver much better material than someone spending years grinding away on a single ninety-minute film.

Plus, I'd argue you just get more invested in series. You actually grow to love the characters and everything... you end up becoming a genuine fan, which makes it easy to hit that higher rating.
David Price5 David Price5 Regular
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#7 ·
Michael Harris20 said:That's true... though I tried watching a couple of seasons of Breaking Bad once and just burned out. I honestly don't get how someone can sit through all five seasons and give it a 9.6 rating. You clearly have to be some kind of fanatic or something... it really stood out to me. There's definitely something else at play there.

And that explains everything. Just stick it out through the next Top 3 seasons and you'll see why Breaking Bad is considered one of the greatest shows ever made. You'll understand the hype, why the viewership exploded, and why Aaron Paul and Bryan Cranston are constantly landing massive roles in movies and TV. It even has its own dedicated section in major retail stores..

You obviously have to be a total freak or something... but it really stood out to me. Clearly, there's something else going on there.

The real quality that set this show apart actually kicked in starting with season 3..
http://graphtv.kevinformatics.com/tt0903747

http://graphtv.kevinformatics.com This is an excellent site for tracking whether a show's quality is trending up or down.

http://graphtv.kevinformatics.com/tt0944947
Lawrence Booth2 Lawrence Booth2 Regular
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#8 ·
Man, I’ve noticed this too
maybe it's just because we're seeing more girls and kids weighing in than usual
but usually, TV shows don't attract nearly as many haters as movies do, for example
it's mostly just fans
redsailor15 redsailor15 Member
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#9 ·
People tend to get more invested in a series because of the sheer length of it. You slowly get to know the characters, and every episode builds up these little threads and tensions that unravel later on... there are just more layers, more suspense, more twists, and honestly, usually the more, the better. (well, not always)
Personally, I find series much more engaging; sometimes I can breeze through an entire ten-hour season in a single day without feeling bored at all. Every episode ends on such a cliffhanger that I just have to hit play on the next one immediately, until I've finished the whole thing. So yeah, ten hours of watching flies by without any trouble, and I actually enjoy it.
With certain movies, though... once they hit the 90-minute mark, I find myself constantly checking the clock to see when it'll finally be over.
It’s funny how I can sometimes find a ten-hour season easier to get through than a ninety-minute movie.
David Price5 David Price5 Regular
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#10 ·
Lawrence Booth2 said:Man, I’ve noticed this too
maybe it's just because we're seeing more girls and kids weighing in than usual
but usually, TV shows don't attract nearly as many haters as movies do, for example
it's mostly just fans

Actually, I think series can have even more haters than movies. Since they stay on TV longer, they eventually start getting under your skin, unlike a movie that you watch and quickly forget. Plus, the biggest voters on IMDb are typically Males Aged 18-45...
goldenscout14 goldenscout14 Active Member
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#11 ·
Anything can be a reason, really. Some of the points already brought up hold plenty of weight in my eyes—differing expectations or specific criteria regarding a movie might actually breed more die-hard fans and fanatics who end up throwing out inflated ratings. That said, I think what Jerry is getting at makes sense too; you tend to run into fewer haters when a film only lasts ninety minutes to two hours. Most people will sit through the whole thing even if they aren't feeling it, just to get to the end, and then they hit it with a bad review.
It isn't exactly rare to hear someone complain, "Give me back those two hours of my life..." But when it comes to an entire season of a series—not to mention five or more seasons—most people won't bother following along if the show doesn't click with them early on. And unless the show absolutely infuriates them, they probably won't go out of their way to leave scathing reviews for later episodes or entire seasons they never even watched in the first place. So, you don't hear "Give me back my 24 hours of life" or "Give me back my 196 hours" nearly as often. Perhaps you'll hear it from someone who genuinely loved a series, only to be violently disappointed by the finale or the end of a season, but everyone else had checked out and stopped rating it long ago.
amberviper24 amberviper24 Newcomer
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#12 ·
In my opinion, the reason behind those skewed ratings is quite simple: the vast majority of people rating these shows are just die-hard fans of them. Personally, I don't follow that pattern at all. I’ve only bothered to rate a handful of series that I actually fell in love with; if I watch a few episodes of something and realize it’s just not my cup of tea, I see absolutely no point in wasting my time giving it a rating. It’s a completely different story when it comes to movies, though. With films, I make it a point to rate every single one I finish. Even if a movie is absolute garbage, I’ll sit through a portion of it and still leave a score...
James Garcia50 James Garcia50 Active Member
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#13 ·
Angela Alvarez10 said:To me, it honestly feels like TV shows can actually be higher quality than movies. It’s kind of fascinating, really—how a writing team tasked with crafting 22 episodes per season can deliver much better material than someone spending years grinding away on a single ninety-minute film.

Plus, I'd argue you just get more invested in series. You actually grow to love the characters and everything... you end up becoming a genuine fan, which makes it easy to hit that higher rating.

Who spends years working on just one single movie? An idiot?

Quote: never a series is better than a movie. A series is just filler for some suburban guy who needs to know what happened before or after the film.
You can cover just about everything in ninety minutes. Or can you?
The latest trend is just churning out endless series based on movies. Isn't that just the same old story?
Take a look. FargoOne of the best movies ever made, followed by the series of the same name. Why wouldn't you? 🙄

Yeah, I never bother checking ratings for movies or shows. Why would I? I've got my own criteria.
David Price5 David Price5 Regular
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#14 ·
Who spends years working on just one single movie? An idiot?

A huge portion of filmmaking involves all that extra work... when you consider how long it takes to write the script, hunt down producers, actually shoot it, and handle all those script revisions.

Quote: never a series is ever better than a film. A series is just filler for the casual viewer at home who wants to know what happened before or after the movie.
You can wrap everything up in ninety minutes.

Well, you could cram everything into five minutes too. But the issue is that you claim that's all that's needed, which is just silly.

The proof is in the current trend of churning out series based on movies.
Take Fargo, one of the best films ever, and then go watch the series based on it.🙄

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/fargo/s01/
Clearly, these people have no taste. They didn't have any taste when they were rating the movie either.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/fargo/

Yeah, I never watch ratings for movies or series, I have my own criteria.

Obviously you do. Whether they are actually worth mentioning is another matter entirely...
James Garcia50 James Garcia50 Active Member
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#15 ·
David Price5 said:
Who spends years working on just one single movie? An idiot?

A huge portion of filmmaking involves all that extra work... when you consider how long it takes to write the script, hunt down producers, actually shoot it, and handle all those script revisions.

Quote: never a series is ever better than a film. A series is just filler for the casual viewer at home who wants to know what happened before or after the movie.
You can wrap everything up in ninety minutes.

Well, you could cram everything into five minutes too. But the issue is that you claim that's all that's needed, which is just silly.

The proof is in the current trend of churning out series based on movies.
Take Fargo, one of the best films ever, and then go watch the series based on it.🙄

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/fargo/s01/
Clearly, these people have no taste. They didn't have any taste when they were rating the movie either.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/fargo/

Yeah, I never watch ratings for movies or series, I have my own criteria.

Obviously you do. Whether they are actually worth mentioning is another matter entirely...

We aren't talking about the volume; we're talking about scripts that are basically written on a whim, ripped off from some Asian or European movie, or just lifted straight from a book.
Nah, there's plenty of it.
I was thinking about my favorite directors—the ones who actually sink their teeth into a single project for years. Honestly, I don't even care about anyone else.

David Price5 said:
Who spends years working on just one single movie? An idiot?

A huge portion of filmmaking involves all that extra work... when you consider how long it takes to write the script, hunt down producers, actually shoot it, and handle all those script revisions.

Quote: never a series is ever better than a film. A series is just filler for the casual viewer at home who wants to know what happened before or after the movie.
You can wrap everything up in ninety minutes.

Well, you could cram everything into five minutes too. But the issue is that you claim that's all that's needed, which is just silly.

The proof is in the current trend of churning out series based on movies.
Take Fargo, one of the best films ever, and then go watch the series based on it.🙄

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/fargo/s01/
Clearly, these people have no taste. They didn't have any taste when they were rating the movie either.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/fargo/

Yeah, I never watch ratings for movies or series, I have my own criteria.

Obviously you do. Whether they are actually worth mentioning is another matter entirely...

There are no rules. You could churn out five seasons with thirteen episodes each and still have everything you filmed turn out to be total garbage. Why even bother?

David Price5 said:
Who spends years working on just one single movie? An idiot?

A huge portion of filmmaking involves all that extra work... when you consider how long it takes to write the script, hunt down producers, actually shoot it, and handle all those script revisions.

Quote: never a series is ever better than a film. A series is just filler for the casual viewer at home who wants to know what happened before or after the movie.
You can wrap everything up in ninety minutes.

Well, you could cram everything into five minutes too. But the issue is that you claim that's all that's needed, which is just silly.

The proof is in the current trend of churning out series based on movies.
Take Fargo, one of the best films ever, and then go watch the series based on it.🙄

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/fargo/s01/
Clearly, these people have no taste. They didn't have any taste when they were rating the movie either.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/fargo/

Yeah, I never watch ratings for movies or series, I have my own criteria.

Obviously you do. Whether they are actually worth mentioning is another matter entirely...

Everyone seems to have their own little set of standards or whatever, but honestly? In today's world, I couldn't care less.

David Price5 said:
Who spends years working on just one single movie? An idiot?

A huge portion of filmmaking involves all that extra work... when you consider how long it takes to write the script, hunt down producers, actually shoot it, and handle all those script revisions.

Quote: never a series is ever better than a film. A series is just filler for the casual viewer at home who wants to know what happened before or after the movie.
You can wrap everything up in ninety minutes.

Well, you could cram everything into five minutes too. But the issue is that you claim that's all that's needed, which is just silly.

The proof is in the current trend of churning out series based on movies.
Take Fargo, one of the best films ever, and then go watch the series based on it.🙄

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/fargo/s01/
Clearly, these people have no taste. They didn't have any taste when they were rating the movie either.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/fargo/

Yeah, I never watch ratings for movies or series, I have my own criteria.

Obviously you do. Whether they are actually worth mentioning is another matter entirely...

What kind of mention was that, David Price5?
Just because a movie or show wins a bunch of awards doesn't mean it's actually any good. It’s really just about the hype, isn't it?
silvertiger11 silvertiger11 Active Member
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#16 ·
Honestly, I find it hard to believe anyone would sit through multiple seasons of a show they actually hate just to spitefully bump up its audience score. That logic just doesn't hold water. A movie is a one-off event, so you're going to get a much wider, more unpredictable spectrum of opinions.

Besides, TV series have a natural edge over films. In this day and age, creators can actually gauge audience sentiment and pivot the story's direction accordingly. A movie, on the other hand, is pretty much set in stone once production wraps.
James Garcia50 James Garcia50 Active Member
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#17 ·
silvertiger11 said:Honestly, I find it hard to believe anyone would sit through multiple seasons of a show they actually hate just to spitefully bump up its audience score. That logic just doesn't hold water. A movie is a one-off event, so you're going to get a much wider, more unpredictable spectrum of opinions.

Besides, TV series have a natural edge over films. In this day and age, creators can actually gauge audience sentiment and pivot the story's direction accordingly. A movie, on the other hand, is pretty much set in stone once production wraps.

Exactly.
A series is just one long string of concessions to the viewers, whereas a movie is what you decided to make from the jump—there's no room for post-mortem adjustments.
David Price5 David Price5 Regular
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#18 ·
James Garcia50 said:We aren't talking about the volume; we're talking about scripts that are basically written on a whim, ripped off from some Asian or European movie, or just lifted straight from a book.
Nah, there's plenty of it.
I was thinking about my favorite directors—the ones who actually sink their teeth into a single project for years. Honestly, I don't even care about anyone else.

There are no rules. You could churn out five seasons with thirteen episodes each and still have everything you filmed turn out to be total garbage. Why even bother?

Everyone seems to have their own little set of standards or whatever, but honestly? In today's world, I couldn't care less.

What kind of mention was that, David Price5?
Just because a movie or show wins a bunch of awards doesn't mean it's actually any good. It’s really just about the hype, isn't it?

I was speaking in general terms here. Whether it’s an original work or an adaptation, scriptwriting can take three days—like a quick Rocky montage—or it can take years.

There are no rules. You could produce five seasons with thirteen episodes each and still have everything you filmed turn out to be total garbage.

Exactly. But I would say NEVER. That was my main point. A series will never be better than the movie.

In general? Or a series based on a movie, or a movie based on a series?...

All these lovely people either have their own criteria or they don't, but to me, that doesn't matter in this situation.

The issue is that these same people clearly have standards when they happen to agree with your taste in movies, but suddenly those standards vanish the moment a series shows up. Is the problem with them, or is it something else?

No mention at all, David Price5?
The point is that a vote of three hundred random people doesn't make a film or series good. That's all there is to it.

Of course. But then you have to wonder how statistically you just happen to find three hundred random folks who disagree with you in one place... only for those same folks to suddenly align with your opinion on movies. I suspect your views on film will largely align with the consensus of, say, professional critics.

silvertiger11 said:Honestly, I find it hard to believe anyone would sit through multiple seasons of a show they actually hate just to spitefully bump up its audience score. That logic just doesn't hold water. A movie is a one-off event, so you're going to get a much wider, more unpredictable spectrum of opinions.

Besides, TV series have a natural edge over films. In this day and age, creators can actually gauge audience sentiment and pivot the story's direction accordingly. A movie, on the other hand, is pretty much set in stone once production wraps.

If only it were true, but it simply isn't.
Test screenings. Films get cut and edited specifically because of the audience.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_screening
Jessica Morris6 Jessica Morris6 Active Member
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#19 ·
Honestly, you shouldn't waste your energy obsessing over what you see on IMDb... just watch whatever actually catches your interest. Those ratings really don't mean a thing.
David Price5 David Price5 Regular
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#20 ·
The real struggle is being lost in such a massive ocean of series and movies; there's just no way to catch everything. Sometimes you really have to hunt for a solid opinion first.

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