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Which PSU should I buy?

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Aaron Evans2 Aaron Evans2 Newcomer
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#2121 ·
So, I went ahead and grabbed this Mission Q 400 w power supply—and realized, oops, it doesn't actually have the pin needed for my GPU, whether that's a 4 or 8-pin version. What's the move here? (I'm clearly a genius because I totally forgot to check the specs before buying)..
wanderingbison9 wanderingbison9 Active Member
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#2122 ·
Aaron Evans2 said:I picked up a Mission Q 400 w power supply, but I just realized it doesn't have the specific pin for my GPU, whether it needs 4 or 8 pins. What should I do? I feel a bit silly since I didn't double-check the specs when I was shopping for it..

Actually, it does have one:

1xPCIe
Aaron Evans2 Aaron Evans2 Newcomer
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#2123 ·
So there's this one guy who's heading straight for the motherboard...
wanderingbison9 wanderingbison9 Active Member
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#2124 ·
Aaron Evans2 said:There's that one specific connector meant for the motherboard...

Right, you have the 4-pin for the CPU, but you really need to make sure you have one with 6 pins as well.
Aaron Evans2 Aaron Evans2 Newcomer
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#2125 ·
Is there some kind of adapter I can use, or am I stuck buying a whole new power supply?
wanderingbison9 wanderingbison9 Active Member
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#2126 ·
Aaron Evans2 said:Is there any way to make this work with a different connector, or am I stuck having to buy an entirely new power supply?

It’s definitely doable, but could you grab a few clear photos of all the connectors first? You likely already have the specific cable needed for the GPU, you just might not recognize it at a glance. If you take a look at the image right where it labels the PCIe section:

https://www.pcinside.info/inside/ins...0image%20above).
Terry Collins9 Terry Collins9 Member
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#2127 ·
wanderingbison9 said:Look, if you're planning to pull that full 75W through a SATA or Molex cable for a slot/riser, be careful—those aren't really rated for 75W, they're closer to 54W. Maybe if you have them connected simultaneously it spreads out... but standard PCIe with a 6+2 pin is designed for 4.16A per rail (3 rails x 12V = 150W), whereas SATA and Molex sit at about 1.5A * 3 * 12V = 54W. That said, PCIe can actually handle up to 288W (8A per rail).

I saw on https://www.gpuminingresources.com/p/psu-cables.html that Molex can technically hit 156W. Still—I wouldn't mess around using Molex to power a single riser unless I absolutely had to. Right now, my only riser is running off Molex.

Once you actually dive into the technical side, you realize it’s not nearly as straightforward as it looks. There are always those little "details" you have to watch out for.
fadedorca66 fadedorca66 Regular
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#2128 ·
Aaron Evans2 said:I picked up a Mission Q 400 w power supply, but it doesn't have that pin that goes into the GPU, like 4 or 8. What should I do? (I'm an idiot, I didn't check the specs when I was buying it)..

The GPU takes either a 1x6 or a 1x8 connector; there's no such thing as a 1x4...
Alexander Moore67 Alexander Moore67 Active Member
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#2129 ·
Aaron Evans2 said:I picked up a Mission Q 400 w power supply, but it doesn't have that specific pin for a GPU, whether it's 4-pin or 8-pin. What should I do? (My bad, I didn't double-check the specs when I was shopping for the PSU)..

If that graphics card needs an extra 75w via a 6-pin or 8-pin connector and this unit is bottom-of-the-barrel quality... don't even try to hook it up!!!
wiredotter14 wiredotter14 Regular
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#2130 ·
Alexander Moore67 said:If the GPU needs an extra 75W via a 1x6 or 1x8 pin and this thing is bottom-of-the-barrel garbage... don't you dare plug it in!!!

Only 300W on the 12V rail 🤔
Alexander Moore67 Alexander Moore67 Active Member
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#2131 ·
wiredotter14 said:Asking for 300W on the 12V rail 🤔

The wholesale price of this Chinese junk is $27 and that pretty much tells you everything you need to know...
Aaron Evans2 Aaron Evans2 Newcomer
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#2132 ·
What kind of power supply would you guys recommend if I'm working with a tight budget?
wanderingbison9 wanderingbison9 Active Member
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#2133 ·
Aaron Evans2 said:What kind of power supply would you recommend if I'm working with a tight budget?

Hey there, could you please let us know which graphics card and processor you're actually using? It would be great if you could give us a bit more detail about your components rather than just these short bursts of info, so we can actually provide some meaningful advice.😬

My budget option is the MS industrial Platinum 400 V2, which realistically puts out about 250W, though that's really only enough to run a Celeron with its iGPU, a single 2.5" drive, and a satellite card. Interestingly enough, it still includes a 4+4 connector for the CPU and a 6+2 connector for the GPU.

So, we'll be waiting to hear back from you.
Aaron Evans2 Aaron Evans2 Newcomer
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#2134 ·
Here's what I've got running right now.

Ryzen 3 2200G
Clock speed is 3500 MHz
TDP 65W

Motherboard: Asrock B450M-HDV R4.0
TDP Limit: 105W

DDR4 RAM 16GB 2666mhz

Right now I'm just stuck with the iGPU Veg 8—not ideal, I guess—but I'm planning to pick up something like an RX580 or maybe a GTX 1050/1060 down the road.
Alexander Moore67 Alexander Moore67 Active Member
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#2135 ·
https://www.adm.com/power-supplies-fortron...67608/product/ if it comes with a 60-month warranty and is only slightly more expensive by $175 then just grab

Corsair 450 w CX450M
wiredotter14 wiredotter14 Regular
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#2136 ·
https://www.adm.com/evga-450w-power-supply/product/
Or maybe this instead of the Fortron.

If you're sticking to a budget GPU like a GTX1050, then this works fine too.

https://www.microcenter.com/product/evga-450w-power-supply/
wiredotter14 wiredotter14 Regular
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#2137 ·
Terry Collins9 said:I saw on https://www.gpuminingresources.com/p/psu-cables.html that Molex can handle up to 156W. Still, I wouldn't mess around with it—I'd only power one riser via Molex if I absolutely had to. Right now, my only riser is running off Molex.

Once you actually dig into this stuff, you realize it isn't as straightforward as it looks. There's a "little detail" you really need to watch out for.

Manufacturers explicitly state that SATA isn't meant for risers or GPUs. 😁
https://www.silentiumpc.com/wp-conte...cables-www.png
Terry Collins9 Terry Collins9 Member
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#2138 ·
wiredotter14 said:Manufacturers claim SATA isn't meant for risers or the 😁
https://www.silentiumpc.com/wp-conte...cables-www.png

Maybe it's just a conspiracy to force you into buying PCIe cables?

Some high-quality power tongs from Alija Izetbegović are on their way—so I'll be running some measurements. I'll share the results with everyone.
Bryan Palmer47 Bryan Palmer47 Newcomer
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#2139 ·
Terry Collins9 said:Maybe they're just plotting to get us all to buy more PCIe cables?

I've actually got some high-quality power clamps coming in the mail from Alija Izetbegović, so I suppose I'll be performing some measurements soon. Once I have everything sorted out, I'll probably share those results with everyone here.

What's your take on this, mirit, and what makes you say that? I mean, how much power the PSU draws really depends on whatever load it's handling at the moment. If we want a legitimate test of the power supply and its actual efficiency, I guess you really need a constant load to properly compare the input against the output.
cosmiclynx57 cosmiclynx57 Regular
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#2140 ·
FSP HYPER k 600 w

So, is this thing actually any good? Is it even worth picking up?

image

Do you guys think it'll hold its own with my current setup?

And more importantly, can I trust it to push through a whole year of heavy use without accidentally frying all my other expensive parts?

I'm all ears, so please, hit me with your best advice and honest opinions!

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