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Insults in the tourism section—even the moderator joined in!

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rustymason82 rustymason82 Active MemberOP
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#1 ·
I was browsing the tourism thread today regarding guest experiences. In my opinion, the way that magician is insulting Rachel Jones8 is absolutely grounds for being sent to the cardboard box.
But more importantly, even the Tourism moderator, Blue Sky, joined in on the mockery instead of stepping in to stop this blatant disrespect and penalize the behavior already taking place.
rustydrifter10 rustydrifter10 Regular
693 messages
joined Apr 2011
#2 ·
Hey, can someone drop the links here? Please!
rustymason82 rustymason82 Active MemberOP
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#3 ·
I'm not trying to force links on anyone; if you actually wanted to see what I'm talking about, you could just head over there and check it out yourselves...
It’s honestly heartbreaking to see moderators like the one overseeing the tourism section even holding a position here. In my eyes, a moderator who openly insults forum members has hit rock bottom.
To make matters worse—though I can't provide a specific instance because it happens so systematically—regular users who aren't professional vacation rental owners are denied access to certain threads, as if those discussions are strictly reserved for landlords, much like this one.
Does the supermoderator, or even you, truly look at how these moderators conduct themselves?
Michelle Evans Michelle Evans Regular
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joined Jan 2013
#4 ·
rustymason82 said:I'm not trying to force links on anyone; if you actually wanted to see what I'm talking about, you could just head over there and check it out yourselves...
It’s honestly heartbreaking to see moderators like the one overseeing the tourism section even holding a position here. In my eyes, a moderator who openly insults forum members has hit rock bottom.
To make matters worse—though I can't provide a specific instance because it happens so systematically—regular users who aren't professional vacation rental owners are denied access to certain threads, as if those discussions are strictly reserved for landlords, much like this one.
Does the supermoderator, or even you, truly look at how these moderators conduct themselves?

That's one way to look at it—but then we aren't really looking to resolve anything. If you actually wanted a response, you would've provided the links.

I'll say it again: please provide the links. It's clearly stated in the rules of this PDF and is a standard part of any appeal; without them, this thread isn't properly opened. We need to see the actual issue to address it. If there's no interest in finding a solution, fine, the thread will be locked because a discussion like this serves no purpose.

Please post the link(s). And do take a moment to review the rules in this PDF regarding how appeals should be filed.
Harold Taylor6 Harold Taylor6 Member
34 messages
joined Mar 2009
#5 ·
Now, I don't mean to offend anyone here—honestly, I really don't—but I truly feel like Rachel Jones8 sometimes struggles to see things from everyone else's perspective. It’s almost as if she isn't quite on the same wavelength as some of the other posts in the thread.
The magician, on the flip side, has occasionally picked up a bit of a snarky way of speaking just because some of our other users aren't always the sharpest tools in the shed!

I honestly don't think they were even on the same page. From what I can tell, Rachel Jones8 didn't even react to that specific comment. Since this US tourism forum is such a social community, we try pretty hard to stay within the bounds of good taste—we really do aim to moderate everything accordingly.
rustydrifter10 rustydrifter10 Regular
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#6 ·
Harold Taylor6 said:Now, I don't mean to offend anyone here—honestly, I really don't—but I truly feel like Rachel Jones8 sometimes struggles to see things from everyone else's perspective. It’s almost as if she isn't quite on the same wavelength as some of the other posts in the thread.
The magician, on the flip side, has occasionally picked up a bit of a snarky way of speaking just because some of our other users aren't always the sharpest tools in the shed!

I honestly don't think they were even on the same page. From what I can tell, Rachel Jones8 didn't even react to that specific comment. Since this US tourism forum is such a social community, we try pretty hard to stay within the bounds of good taste—we really do aim to moderate everything accordingly.

Honestly, this post is just a straight-up ad hominem attack, and frankly, it should have been flagged for a violation right then and there. I’m asking you to please take action against this specific comment and keep an eye out for any other posts like it in the future. This kind of communication is just destructive to the community, and it shouldn't be tolerated, regardless of who it's being aimed at.

Harold Taylor6 said:Now, I don't mean to offend anyone here—honestly, I really don't—but I truly feel like Rachel Jones8 sometimes struggles to see things from everyone else's perspective. It’s almost as if she isn't quite on the same wavelength as some of the other posts in the thread.
The magician, on the flip side, has occasionally picked up a bit of a snarky way of speaking just because some of our other users aren't always the sharpest tools in the shed!

I honestly don't think they were even on the same page. From what I can tell, Rachel Jones8 didn't even react to that specific comment. Since this US tourism forum is such a social community, we try pretty hard to stay within the bounds of good taste—we really do aim to moderate everything accordingly.

It doesn't matter whether she complained or not. If you saw the post, you had a responsibility to step in.
rustydrifter10 rustydrifter10 Regular
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#7 ·
rustymason82 said:I'm not trying to force links on anyone; if you actually wanted to see what I'm talking about, you could just head over there and check it out yourselves...
It’s honestly heartbreaking to see moderators like the one overseeing the tourism section even holding a position here. In my eyes, a moderator who openly insults forum members has hit rock bottom.
To make matters worse—though I can't provide a specific instance because it happens so systematically—regular users who aren't professional vacation rental owners are denied access to certain threads, as if those discussions are strictly reserved for landlords, much like this one.
Does the supermoderator, or even you, truly look at how these moderators conduct themselves?

Look, we actually need those links if we're going to properly review the appeal. To be honest, failing to provide evidence can actually be seen as a violation of the rules, and since this is such an open discussion, you could end up getting cardboarded on this PDF.
Rachel Jones8 Rachel Jones8 Active Member
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#8 ·
I didn't officially report it... but I definitely had some thoughts on that post:
What's up? rustymason82 said:Maybe I’m just a bit slow on the uptake, and yeah, I'll admit I can be a bore. But am I being rude? Not even close.
If you think someone’s being an idiot, does that really mean you have to be a jerk to them? I just don't get that mindset. How are you even supposed to work in tourism if you can't deal with all kinds of people—including the silly questions?

Regarding that nasty comment from the magician:
Nah, not even close. "Malicious, spiteful, sneaky, devious... just plain bad."
Since you can just slap solar panels right on your roof, why wouldn't you? You can have that setup even if you're living right in the middle of Washington, D.C. Hot water? So, I'm taking a shower... and obviously there's a water tank, so you've still got water even when the sun isn't out. I mean, what is someone actually thinking when they say "solar shower"?
Maybe we could go with an old-school black electric water heater sitting right in the sun, or maybe step things up with something a bit more high-tech?
That’s exactly why I asked for clarification—I wasn't quite sure what she meant. Like, if a woman wants to wash off some dirt, why couldn't she just do it at home? Why does it have to be at a pool?
I didn't ask because I'm just being petty, mean, and a little bit devious. Isn't that just how it works?
Honestly, since those are the exact terms she used to label me, I’d say it’s pretty insulting. Doesn't that deserve a look from the mods?

thanks Nick.
thanks Isaac. 😉
Harold Taylor6 Harold Taylor6 Member
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joined Mar 2009
#9 ·
You actually edited this post nearly an hour after you first hit send!

As far as I'm concerned, the case is closed—it’s a total cardboard move.

LP/AC
Rachel Jones8 Rachel Jones8 Active Member
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#10 ·
? To who? What kind of cardboard and why even bother? I'm totally lost here. What are you talking about?
rustydrifter10 rustydrifter10 Regular
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#11 ·
Rachel Jones8 said:? To who? What kind of cardboard and why even bother? I'm totally lost here. What are you talking about?

Basically, a post directed at you was cardboarded. Since you went back and edited your own post to mention it, they missed your update entirely. :tumač:
Rachel Jones8 Rachel Jones8 Active Member
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joined Dec 2011
#12 ·
Thanks for clearing that up. I wasn't even looking for any cardboard, nor was I counting on it. If they actually changed something, that would be great, but honestly? I doubt it.

I was gonna start a whole new thread just to reply to that rushed post you dropped before vanishing... but honestly? Maybe it’s better to just keep it here. Why make things more complicated than they need to be? No point in dragging it out.

C/P:

Since they shut down my last thread with a comment I can't even reply to, I’m starting this one to point out the issue. Anyone else feeling this?
I mean, clearly, it hasn't happened yet.
I really want to get back to rustydrifter10, even if I don't get an explanation, a comment, or any sense of justice. I know it’s probably not worth the effort, but I just have to say something, right?
rustydrifter10 said:I clicked through a few links and realized they’re all from back in 2011 and 2012. How could you honestly think those would be relevant to what happened just a couple days ago? Old posts don't count as proof, and I’m definitely not digging through dozens of dead links hoping to find something useful. Sometimes less really is more. As for why my off-topic post got nuked while someone else's stayed up—look, not every post is treated the same. Sometimes mods decide a comment adds value and leave it, other times they see it's useless and scrap it. Sometimes they just let things slide because they don't want to go back and clean up old stuff, or they simply miss a post or a report. That's just how it works. It's not rocket science.

Ne znam na koje linkove mislis, ali nikave linkove nisam stavljala, nego sam kvotala postove.
Feels like you totally missed the point, probably because you didn't get around to reading everything. What's the actual issue here? Not that I'm holding it against you, but the first post covered it all. Posts 2 and 3? Totally irrelevant.
The first post lays out the problem and asks the questions.
Those old posts don't really mean anything. It's just like Harold Taylor6 asked me to hunt for errors, so I did... right after they deleted my post a couple months ago? Meanwhile, another one stays up even though I asked twice to have it taken down. Should that even be happening? If the rules apply to everyone... then that's just how it is. Right?
The stuff under point 3 is right there to prove I'm not just making things up—those are other people's emails. Does anyone actually know if this is allowed? Is it okay for hosts to jump into a thread meant for travelers to scout spots for their guests? I mean, is this space strictly for people looking for a place to stay, or can hosts post whatever they want for whoever they want, regardless of whether it's private or public?

The bottom line:
My post that got me carded:
(Two months ago, I wasn't even feeling it.)
For real?
Honestly, these requests for an apartment for four people at $30 or $35 just don't feel real. I get it—everything is getting way too expensive and guests obviously want lower prices—but supply and demand is supply and demand. If someone can snag a place for $50 or $60, why on earth would they settle for $30?
Honestly, I don't even know if places like that exist anymore. Are you guys actually seeing offers at that price point around here? I’m no expert on the local market—and obviously, prices change depending on where you are—but just looking at it from the outside... finding a spot for four people during peak season with parking, Wi-Fi, AC, and beach access for under $50? That sounds pretty much impossible. Or am I totally wrong? 🤷

I honestly thought this post should’ve been taken down, so I sent a DM and even used the report button:
We really need a SOCIAL FORUM for all those people who reject every offer because they want the world for pennies. Seriously, have some respect. Just like you value your own cash, private hosts value their rentals—especially when you're looking for a fully equipped spot right by the beach during peak season for a bargain price.
My favorites are the ones expecting a natural breeze on a sandy beach. Look, if we're private hosts, we aren't running the municipal parks department.

It wasn't removed because it’s fine... unlike mine was.
Not quite, but hey, we take what we can get...
👋 until more unfairness and double standards creep in...
rustydrifter10 rustydrifter10 Regular
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#13 ·
Rachel Jones8 said:Thanks for clearing that up. I wasn't even looking for any cardboard, nor was I counting on it. If they actually changed something, that would be great, but honestly? I doubt it.

I was gonna start a whole new thread just to reply to that rushed post you dropped before vanishing... but honestly? Maybe it’s better to just keep it here. Why make things more complicated than they need to be? No point in dragging it out.

C/P:

Since they shut down my last thread with a comment I can't even reply to, I’m starting this one to point out the issue. Anyone else feeling this?
I mean, clearly, it hasn't happened yet.
I really want to get back to rustydrifter10, even if I don't get an explanation, a comment, or any sense of justice. I know it’s probably not worth the effort, but I just have to say something, right?

Ne znam na koje linkove mislis, ali nikave linkove nisam stavljala, nego sam kvotala postove.
Feels like you totally missed the point, probably because you didn't get around to reading everything. What's the actual issue here? Not that I'm holding it against you, but the first post covered it all. Posts 2 and 3? Totally irrelevant.
The first post lays out the problem and asks the questions.
Those old posts don't really mean anything. It's just like Harold Taylor6 asked me to hunt for errors, so I did... right after they deleted my post a couple months ago? Meanwhile, another one stays up even though I asked twice to have it taken down. Should that even be happening? If the rules apply to everyone... then that's just how it is. Right?
The stuff under point 3 is right there to prove I'm not just making things up—those are other people's emails. Does anyone actually know if this is allowed? Is it okay for hosts to jump into a thread meant for travelers to scout spots for their guests? I mean, is this space strictly for people looking for a place to stay, or can hosts post whatever they want for whoever they want, regardless of whether it's private or public?

The bottom line:
My post that got me carded:
(Two months ago, I wasn't even feeling it.)
For real?
Honestly, these requests for an apartment for four people at $30 or $35 just don't feel real. I get it—everything is getting way too expensive and guests obviously want lower prices—but supply and demand is supply and demand. If someone can snag a place for $50 or $60, why on earth would they settle for $30?
Honestly, I don't even know if places like that exist anymore. Are you guys actually seeing offers at that price point around here? I’m no expert on the local market—and obviously, prices change depending on where you are—but just looking at it from the outside... finding a spot for four people during peak season with parking, Wi-Fi, AC, and beach access for under $50? That sounds pretty much impossible. Or am I totally wrong? 🤷

I honestly thought this post should’ve been taken down, so I sent a DM and even used the report button:
We really need a SOCIAL FORUM for all those people who reject every offer because they want the world for pennies. Seriously, have some respect. Just like you value your own cash, private hosts value their rentals—especially when you're looking for a fully equipped spot right by the beach during peak season for a bargain price.
My favorites are the ones expecting a natural breeze on a sandy beach. Look, if we're private hosts, we aren't running the municipal parks department.

It wasn't removed because it’s fine... unlike mine was.
Not quite, but hey, we take what we can get...
👋 until more unfairness and double standards creep in...

Hey, you’re actually breaking the rules here by keeping on about a thread that’s already been locked. Seriously, let's just drop it and move on.

Rachel Jones8 said:Thanks for clearing that up. I wasn't even looking for any cardboard, nor was I counting on it. If they actually changed something, that would be great, but honestly? I doubt it.

I was gonna start a whole new thread just to reply to that rushed post you dropped before vanishing... but honestly? Maybe it’s better to just keep it here. Why make things more complicated than they need to be? No point in dragging it out.

C/P:

Since they shut down my last thread with a comment I can't even reply to, I’m starting this one to point out the issue. Anyone else feeling this?
I mean, clearly, it hasn't happened yet.
I really want to get back to rustydrifter10, even if I don't get an explanation, a comment, or any sense of justice. I know it’s probably not worth the effort, but I just have to say something, right?

Ne znam na koje linkove mislis, ali nikave linkove nisam stavljala, nego sam kvotala postove.
Feels like you totally missed the point, probably because you didn't get around to reading everything. What's the actual issue here? Not that I'm holding it against you, but the first post covered it all. Posts 2 and 3? Totally irrelevant.
The first post lays out the problem and asks the questions.
Those old posts don't really mean anything. It's just like Harold Taylor6 asked me to hunt for errors, so I did... right after they deleted my post a couple months ago? Meanwhile, another one stays up even though I asked twice to have it taken down. Should that even be happening? If the rules apply to everyone... then that's just how it is. Right?
The stuff under point 3 is right there to prove I'm not just making things up—those are other people's emails. Does anyone actually know if this is allowed? Is it okay for hosts to jump into a thread meant for travelers to scout spots for their guests? I mean, is this space strictly for people looking for a place to stay, or can hosts post whatever they want for whoever they want, regardless of whether it's private or public?

The bottom line:
My post that got me carded:
(Two months ago, I wasn't even feeling it.)
For real?
Honestly, these requests for an apartment for four people at $30 or $35 just don't feel real. I get it—everything is getting way too expensive and guests obviously want lower prices—but supply and demand is supply and demand. If someone can snag a place for $50 or $60, why on earth would they settle for $30?
Honestly, I don't even know if places like that exist anymore. Are you guys actually seeing offers at that price point around here? I’m no expert on the local market—and obviously, prices change depending on where you are—but just looking at it from the outside... finding a spot for four people during peak season with parking, Wi-Fi, AC, and beach access for under $50? That sounds pretty much impossible. Or am I totally wrong? 🤷

I honestly thought this post should’ve been taken down, so I sent a DM and even used the report button:
We really need a SOCIAL FORUM for all those people who reject every offer because they want the world for pennies. Seriously, have some respect. Just like you value your own cash, private hosts value their rentals—especially when you're looking for a fully equipped spot right by the beach during peak season for a bargain price.
My favorites are the ones expecting a natural breeze on a sandy beach. Look, if we're private hosts, we aren't running the municipal parks department.

It wasn't removed because it’s fine... unlike mine was.
Not quite, but hey, we take what we can get...
👋 until more unfairness and double standards creep in...

When you quote someone else’s post, that little arrow pointing back to their message actually acts as a direct link! You've gone ahead and dropped about a billion of them in here.

I honestly can’t believe we’re even having this conversation again, but here we go! I feel like I’ve said it a thousand times, yet somehow the point keeps getting lost in the noise. It really just comes down to how much we value transparency and actual results over just empty promises and flashy PR stunts. You know what I mean? It’s one thing to talk a big game when things are going smoothly, but the moment things get a little bumpy, everyone starts looking for someone to blame instead of actually fixing the problem at hand. It’s frustrating, truly, because if we just focused on the fundamentals—you know, the stuff that actually makes an organization work—we wouldn't be sitting here debating this every single week. Anyway, I'm curious to see if anyone else feels this level of exhaustion with the current state of things, or if I'm just being overly dramatic today! kaže:
Honestly, I don't think numbers two and three even matter here, man. They’re pretty much irrelevant to the point we're trying to make.

Look, if you don't have anything meaningful to add, then honestly, just skip it. You're really just cluttering up the feed and making it impossible for anyone to actually find the good stuff.

I can't believe I'm actually sitting here typing this out because, honestly, it’s just one of those things that gets under my skin, you know? It feels like every time we turn around, there's some new nonsense happening that makes you want to just throw your hands up in the air and walk away from the keyboard entirely. I was thinking about what rustydrifter10 mentioned earlier—and they really hit the nail on the head there—about how these little frustrations just seem to pile up until you're staring at a mountain of them. It’s like, does anyone else feel that constant, low-level irritation where nothing quite works the way it should, and you're just waiting for the next thing to go sideways? It’s exhausting! I mean, I don't want to be that person who complains about everything, I really don't, but sometimes you just have to vent it all out before you lose your mind. It’s just one of those days where everything feels slightly off-kilter, and I'm just over it. kaže:
Honestly, looking back at those old posts, they don't really seem to connect to anything anymore. It’s like they’re just floating there without any real context or relevance to what we're talking about now!

If they don't have anything to do with the topic, just leave them out.

Rachel Jones8 said:Thanks for clearing that up. I wasn't even looking for any cardboard, nor was I counting on it. If they actually changed something, that would be great, but honestly? I doubt it.

I was gonna start a whole new thread just to reply to that rushed post you dropped before vanishing... but honestly? Maybe it’s better to just keep it here. Why make things more complicated than they need to be? No point in dragging it out.

C/P:

Since they shut down my last thread with a comment I can't even reply to, I’m starting this one to point out the issue. Anyone else feeling this?
I mean, clearly, it hasn't happened yet.
I really want to get back to rustydrifter10, even if I don't get an explanation, a comment, or any sense of justice. I know it’s probably not worth the effort, but I just have to say something, right?

Ne znam na koje linkove mislis, ali nikave linkove nisam stavljala, nego sam kvotala postove.
Feels like you totally missed the point, probably because you didn't get around to reading everything. What's the actual issue here? Not that I'm holding it against you, but the first post covered it all. Posts 2 and 3? Totally irrelevant.
The first post lays out the problem and asks the questions.
Those old posts don't really mean anything. It's just like Harold Taylor6 asked me to hunt for errors, so I did... right after they deleted my post a couple months ago? Meanwhile, another one stays up even though I asked twice to have it taken down. Should that even be happening? If the rules apply to everyone... then that's just how it is. Right?
The stuff under point 3 is right there to prove I'm not just making things up—those are other people's emails. Does anyone actually know if this is allowed? Is it okay for hosts to jump into a thread meant for travelers to scout spots for their guests? I mean, is this space strictly for people looking for a place to stay, or can hosts post whatever they want for whoever they want, regardless of whether it's private or public?

The bottom line:
My post that got me carded:
(Two months ago, I wasn't even feeling it.)
For real?
Honestly, these requests for an apartment for four people at $30 or $35 just don't feel real. I get it—everything is getting way too expensive and guests obviously want lower prices—but supply and demand is supply and demand. If someone can snag a place for $50 or $60, why on earth would they settle for $30?
Honestly, I don't even know if places like that exist anymore. Are you guys actually seeing offers at that price point around here? I’m no expert on the local market—and obviously, prices change depending on where you are—but just looking at it from the outside... finding a spot for four people during peak season with parking, Wi-Fi, AC, and beach access for under $50? That sounds pretty much impossible. Or am I totally wrong? 🤷

I honestly thought this post should’ve been taken down, so I sent a DM and even used the report button:
We really need a SOCIAL FORUM for all those people who reject every offer because they want the world for pennies. Seriously, have some respect. Just like you value your own cash, private hosts value their rentals—especially when you're looking for a fully equipped spot right by the beach during peak season for a bargain price.
My favorites are the ones expecting a natural breeze on a sandy beach. Look, if we're private hosts, we aren't running the municipal parks department.

It wasn't removed because it’s fine... unlike mine was.
Not quite, but hey, we take what we can get...
👋 until more unfairness and double standards creep in...

If the rules were different back then, you can't exactly call them mistakes—it’s just how the game was played at the time. Honestly, though, dwelling on it doesn't do anyone any good because those old regulations aren't even relevant anymore. If you want to get into the thick of it, just look at what's been posted lately, like within the last couple of days. That’s where the real conversation is happening.

I honestly don't even know where to start with this one, but I just have to get it off my chest because it’s been weighing on me all day! You know those moments where you feel like everything is just perfectly aligned, and then—BAM—life throws a wrench in the works? That’s exactly where I am right now. It feels like I’m just spinning my wheels, trying to make sense of things that don't seem to add up, and I can't help but wonder if anyone else is feeling this same sense of total chaos. I was sitting there thinking about how much effort we put into staying organized and keeping our lives on track, only for some random circumstance to pull the rug out from under us. It’s frustrating, it’s exhausting, and frankly, it’s a little bit ridiculous! But hey, I guess that's just how it goes sometimes, right? We just have to roll with the punches and hope the next wave isn't quite as heavy. kaže:
I honestly thought this post should have been taken down, so I actually reached out via DM and even used the report button to flag it:

It wasn't removed because, apparently, it’s perfectly fine... whereas mine was flagged immediately.

That whole situation was already explained for you over in that other thread.

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