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silverlynx16 silverlynx16 Newcomer
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joined Sep 2012
#3501 ·
Hey everyone! This is my second post—fingers crossed it doesn't get banned. I actually tried to help out with my first one, but it got nuked after just an hour. So, I’m giving it another shot, this time keeping things strictly link-free.

@Chloe Gray5/">@@Chloe Gray5: It’s honestly so frustrating when someone catches cancer early but keeps taking risks... maybe showing them a chart linking smoking to lung cancer might help? I know a few people who only quit once they saw those stats staring them in the face. (You can find the graph on the English Wikipedia page for lung cancer, it's the first one listed.)

@Sophia Davis4/">@@Sophia Davis4: First off, I am so incredibly sorry about your father. My heart goes out to you.
Now, seeing that your mother is dealing with this too is tough. Is it a primary liver tumor? If so, I’d highly recommend Dr. Jadrijevica over at Merkur Hospital. He’s probably the best surgeon around for liver tumors (and anything affecting the surrounding organs). I personally know a few cases where he was the lead surgeon and absolutely nailed it. In one case I know, he even performed a liver transplant—and that person is doing totally fine even a year later! Of course, there are never any guarantees in medicine, but I really think she’d be in great hands, and surgery is likely the strongest move here.

@Kate Brooks2/">@@Kate Brooks2: We're talking about lung cancer... but it isn't clear from your message whether it's small cell or non-small cell. That distinction is everything. Also, you have to realize that the size increase is huge—the tumor has almost doubled in volume (which means mass, too)—so I don't blame the doctors for being worried. You should probably expect some preventative brain radiation, since that's the most common path for spread (though the liver and bones are also frequent targets for metastasis).

@restlessdriver72/">@@restlessdriver72: Sadly, those supplements aren't going to fight the cancer itself—but they might help prevent the immune system and blood counts from crashing during chemo. See, chemo drugs don't just target tumor cells; they hit our immune cells pretty hard, too. Regarding vitamins, just be careful not to overdo the fat-soluble ones (A, D, E, and K)—check what safe levels look like. Keep in mind that the "recommended doses" on most labels are often super low because they follow those outdated RDA guidelines. It honestly drives me crazy how many products in the US cut the recommended dosage in half compared to what's actually needed.

@Madman500: Unfortunately, there isn't enough info in your post. As it stands, we're just looking at an injury to the anterior thoracic wall. The doctor will need to review the imaging to decide on the next steps.

Anyway, that's all I've got for now. Hope this helps!
Angela Wright Angela Wright Regular
731 messages
joined Feb 2007
#3502 ·
Listen, silverlynx16,
I honestly don't understand how you're even permitted to use an avatar and a handle like that. It’s essentially a walking advertisement for a specific brand logo. Based on a handful of published studies claiming some positive impact on malignant cells, this brand is out there raking in massive profits from desperate people—all while offering results that pale in comparison to actual cytostatics. Real drugs undergo incredibly rigorous, extensive, and long-term testing, both in vitro and in vivo. Their development involves the blood, sweat, and tears of countless specialists, from biologists and physicians to pharmacologists, involving manufacturing processes infinitely more complex than whatever you're peddling.
To be blunt, I’ve walked this entire path alongside a loved one, navigating everything from standard oncological protocols to various well-known and obscure alternative and complementary supplements. After losing them, I didn't just move on; I dove deep into the science, fueled by heavy, firsthand experience. Because of that, I don't see your "well-meaning" advice or opinions as anything other than predatory. You're just circling the wagons where you might find another desperate soul willing to cough up about $50 $0.00 for a bit of false hope—assuming they can even stomach the taste and smell.
In that spirit, I’m appealing to whatever shred of humanity you have left (unless you aren't even Homo sapiens) to please refrain from posting here, at least under this persona and avatar. Rest assured, everyone currently facing a cancer diagnosis is already aware of your product; most have likely already looked into it. You won't lose a cent in marketing or profit by backing off, but you might actually leave us with a tiny bit of dignity in a space where our dignity is already being trampled daily by unavoidable bureaucratic machines.
Thanks in advance
Jonathan Cox4 Jonathan Cox4 Member
22 messages
joined Apr 2008
#3503 ·
Back here again, I suppose.
My dad underwent surgery for his brain tumor and Lymph issues, and while he was recovering beautifully at first, unfortunately, his body was just too exhausted to keep fighting the other illnesses he had been battling. My dear dad is gone. 😢

To everyone else out there, I wish you all the best, strength, and resilience as you continue your fight against these merciless illnesses.
melloworca6 melloworca6 Regular
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joined May 2010
#3504 ·
mykosan said:Our work builds on over 60 years of expert research into how medicinal mushrooms affect cancer—which, honestly, gives it a longer track record than studying chemotherapy. Thousands of scientists have dug into various species, how they actually work, and their active compounds. Besides, nobody is suggesting we ditch everything modern medicine has built; people are just saying that sometimes current treatments aren't enough on their own and there are science-based methods out there to boost survival rates. Even quite a few doctors in the US agree and suggest this to their patients. To paraphrase Newton, science reaches this level because of the giants who cleared the path through the woods of ignorance ahead of us.

The timeline argument is even stronger when you consider that traditional medicine has used similar, simpler preparations for over 5,000 years, serving hundreds of millions of people. As useful as the modern pharmacological approach to cancer is, it can't compete with that kind of history. Modern pharmacology has been trying to solve the cancer puzzle for maybe the last 50 years; traditional medicine has a massive head start.

Great. There’s actually an ideal subforum for this kind of stuff, right here: Alternative Medicine. I'd ask you to move this discussion over there, since it's not allowed in this section.

I want to remind everyone once more about the rules for the Health subforum: Health Subforum Rules. Specifically, pay attention to this part:

The Health subforum is strictly tied to conventional medicine, which is based on science. You aren't allowed to push alternative views or treatment methods here. Within these rules, anything considered an "alternative" is defined as any tool or method that lacks support from official medicine and science—meaning things that are viewed as harmful or useless by the establishment. For those topics, please use the Alternative Medicine subforum. Also, promoting any medications that haven't been approved by the FDA is strictly prohibited.
graniteorca42 graniteorca42 Member
18 messages
joined Sep 2012
#3505 ·
melloworca6 said:Excellent. There is actually a perfect subforum dedicated specifically to topics like this, right here: Alternative Medicine. I would kindly ask that you move this discussion over to that other thread, as posting about this topic here isn't permitted.

I would like to remind everyone once again about the rules outlined in the Health PDF: Health Subforum RulesIt’s particularly focused on this:

The Health subforum is closely linked to... conventional medicineEverything here must be grounded in hard science. We will not tolerate the imposition of alternative viewpoints or unproven treatment methods within this space. To be clear, anything lacking official medical backing or scientific validation—methods deemed ineffective or potentially harmful by the medical community—is classified under Alternative Medicine. If you want to discuss those topics, please move to the designated Alternative Medicine subforum. Furthermore, promoting any medication that hasn't been cleared by the FDA is strictly prohibited.

I want to thank those individuals who provided such thoughtful responses. It seems there are far too many people out there looking to profit from the misfortunes of others. I am currently dealing with a sick mother myself; we have been fighting this battle for a year now, and I can say with absolute certainty that nothing short of official, standard medicine has given her as much life as she has had. I am not denying that certain natural remedies might offer some benefits, but if I may offer some well-intentioned advice to anyone facing this situation: do not abandon chemotherapy. Use natural supplements only as a complement to your primary treatment. While it is true that every individual is different and reacts to treatment in their own way, for the vast majority, there is simply no way out without chemo. Don't let yourselves be deceived. Before my mother began her treatment, I did my homework. I read an immense amount of material and didn't rule anything out prematurely. I even read one of those famous books that claims to debunk chemotherapy, only to find it was riddled with contradictions. Similarly, I delved into various materials regarding Alternative Medicine, which were filled with even more inconsistencies and conflicting theories. Perhaps—and I emphasize *perhaps*—one out of every hundred people might succeed with an alternative method, but personally, I refuse to gamble with those kind of statistics. Today, I am profoundly grateful to the doctors and top-tier specialists who have kept my mother alive and in excellent condition for over a year despite having an extremely malignant tumor. My regards to everyone. Please, think carefully about this.
Sophia Davis4 Sophia Davis4 Newcomer
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joined Jun 2013
#3506 ·
graniteorca42 said:Hi everyone, I’m new to the forum, though I’ve been fighting alongside my mom for quite a while now.
The reason I’m replying to you specifically is because this type of tumor is just so rare, and you were the first person I came across talking about it.
We live in a mid-sized city in the Midwest, and back in August of last year, my mom was diagnosed with a gallbladder tumor during what was supposed to be a routine surgery for gallstones. It had already spread to her liver and lymph nodes in the retroperitoneum. Now, she had incredible luck in a bad situation because she ended up under the care of one of the top surgeons in the country for these specific tumors—getting her to that operating room at all felt like something straight out of a movie. He managed to clear everything out during the surgery, but then my mom hit two really rough complications afterward. First, she dealt with enterocolitis from the antibiotics, and then she suffered a pulmonary embolism. She pulled through all of that, and about two months after the surgery, we could finally start chemotherapy; before that, she just wasn't strong enough. Once chemo kicked in, we found she had two metastases on the liver and one in the lymph nodes (all within just two months). She went through eight rounds of chemo and by this past May, her scans showed she was clear. Sadly, this August, we hit the same wall—three metastases right back in the same spot. She’s currently starting her second line of chemo. One thing I really want to emphasize is that even before all this, my mom had heart issues and was 80% disabled from an old car accident involving severe spinal injuries. And on top of all that, she gets this. When she had the surgery, the prognosis was less than a year, even assuming the chemo worked; honestly, some doctors didn't even think she’d survive the first round (she finished her treatment for the embolism just ten days before starting). I didn't have much hope myself, but here she is, right next to me. Throughout the whole illness, Mom has actually felt great regarding the tumor itself—she can eat, she looks good, and she hasn't had any pain. Even now, if you saw her, you wouldn't believe everything she’s been through. Keep hope alive; miracles really do happen. I know this is just extending her time, but as I said, we wouldn't have dared to wish for this in our wildest dreams. After the first three rounds of chemo last year, the tumor shrank by almost 90%, and one metastasis disappeared entirely. Mom handled that incredibly intense therapy remarkably well. As for the cancer itself, besides how rare gallbladder tumors are, she "hit the jackpot" with an even rarer type: a poorly differentiated neuroendocrine carcinoma—basically the "grand prize" of the worst possible tumors. Just don't give up until the very end. My head has been such a mess, I've survived so many shocks... I'm just pushing through now, feeling a bit more stable, but it still hurts so much whenever I think about it. Even here in the States, medical resources can be a struggle, though Mom was lucky to land an oncologist who is a true specialist in these specific tumors, which was a total stroke of luck for us.
I’d love to hear how things are going for all of you, and I’ll be praying for your mothers.

Hey everyone... I haven't been active here for a while, but I've been following along... we've gone through so much. First surgery, which here was unsuccessful, leaving a trail of complications behind—a pulmonary embolism and a blood clot in her leg. They found a metastasis in her spine, which they treated with radiation, and now she's recovering from surgery at a specialized clinic in Chicago. They had to remove the right side of her liver and her gallbladder. They’ve got her wearing those compression stockings on her leg to manage the clots and thin her blood. She’s in a deep depression, partly because of my dad, partly because of herself, but mostly because she’s terrified for me. We’re constantly buying supplements to try and boost her strength. It’s just... it’s awful. It’s heartbreaking to think that now, two months after Dad passed away, I feel like he left us in peace. It happened almost overnight. In a way, it was selfish and selfless at the same time. For him, it was perfect—he didn't even know what was happening to him—but for us, it was a total shock. Still. The pain my mom is enduring right now is something I wouldn't wish on anyone. The most excruciating pain was from the spinal metastasis. That was terrifying. They used radiation to help stop the pain. But now, the surgical wound hurts, her leg has circulation issues, and her skin hurts from being bedridden... And me? I can't even cry. I can't let out everything that's been swirling inside me these past two months... it feels like someone just wiped out half my life with a sponge.
graniteorca42, I sent you a private message
I'm keeping everyone in my thoughts and prayers.
Ethan Reyes2 Ethan Reyes2 Newcomer
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joined Apr 2008
#3507 ·
Intense? How on earth could anyone call them intense? Honestly, people acting like that shouldn't even be allowed through the doors of a hospital.
Good grief. 🙂
Angela Wright Angela Wright Regular
731 messages
joined Feb 2007
#3508 ·
Kimberly Wright said:Intensive care?! Give me a break. People like that shouldn't even be taking up space in a hospital.
Good grief. 🙂

Exactly. Because when hospitals focused on curative medicine can't actually help them, they end up squatting in beds that should belong to patients who actually need intensive care to have a shot at recovery or survival.
People like this are just casualties of a broken healthcare system run by politicians who think they're untouchable and immortal.
silvercanyon7 silvercanyon7 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Apr 2010
#3509 ·
Hello

Maybe someone has already posted about this, but I don't have the time to scroll through everything, so I’m just asking you all directly:
My dad has a neuroendocrine tumor. He’s finished chemotherapy and ten days of radiation. In two or three days, he starts rehab, where the main focus is physical therapy so he can stand on his own two feet again—he’s been using a walker for the last ten days or so.
While he was in the hospital, he lost weight. Now we are working on strengthening his body and getting more calories into him. Fortunately, he has a good appetite; he feels great now and the pain is gone. He says the radiation actually brought him back to life.

Do you have any dietary suggestions? I think I know a lot about nutrition, but when it comes to healthy people who move around, it's one thing. When it involves something like this, I feel like I know absolutely nothing.
I want him to gain weight as soon as possible. I know he needs that energy for his rehabilitation and training sessions.

Everything happened so fast here in the States (he got the diagnosis in June). I am riding waves of emotion myself, but I have to stay strong for him. I am just grateful we are together and fighting this fight side by side.

Once I am more mentally stable—I'm currently seven and a half months pregnant, so the hormones probably aren't helping how I feel—I will try to write something more detailed.

I wish all of you, and myself, all the luck in the world. What we are going through is incredibly unfair, but we cannot lose hope. We have to give everything we've got to get through these crises and hard times.
Angela Wright Angela Wright Regular
731 messages
joined Feb 2007
#3510 ·
silvercanyon7 said:Hey there,

I haven't had the time to scroll through everything to see if this has been asked already, so I'm just going to jump in:
My dad has a neuroendocrine tumor. He’s finished his chemo and completed ten days of radiation. In about two or three days, he starts rehab, where the main focus is physical therapy to help him get back on his feet—he's actually been using a walker for the last ten days or so.
While he was in the hospital, he lost quite a bit of weight, so right now we're focusing on rebuilding his strength and getting more calories into him. Fortunately, his appetite is good; he's feeling much better now and the pain has subsided. He actually told me the radiation made him feel like he was coming back to life.

Does anyone have any specific dietary suggestions? I think I know a fair amount about nutrition when it comes to healthy people who are active, but once you're dealing with something like this, I feel like a total amateur.
I want him to put the weight back on as soon as possible because I know he needs that energy for his rehabilitation and training sessions.

Everything moved so incredibly fast here in the States (he got the diagnosis back in June). I'm riding a massive wave of emotions myself, but I'm staying strong for him. I'm just grateful we're facing this fight together.

Once I'm a bit more mentally stable (I'm seven and a half months pregnant, so the hormones are definitely playing a part in how I'm feeling), I'll try to write something more detailed.

I wish all of you, and myself, nothing but the best. What we're all going through is incredibly unfair, but we can't lose hope. We have to give it everything we've got to push through these crises.

http://cancerhelp.cancerresearchuk.org/type/ You can find detailed information on this site regarding nutrition tailored specifically to different types of tumors. Highly recommend checking it out.
vividsailor7 vividsailor7 Active Member
217 messages
joined Sep 2011
#3511 ·
silvercanyon7 said:Hey everyone,

Maybe someone else has already posted about this, but I honestly don't have the bandwidth to scroll through every single thread, so I’m just going to ask you all directly:
My dad has a neuroendocrine tumor. He's been through chemo and ten days of radiation. In about two or three days, he starts rehab—the main focus is physical therapy so he can actually stand on his own two feet again. For the last ten days or so, he's been relying on a walker.
While he was in the hospital, he lost quite a bit of weight. Now, we're working hard to strengthen his body and get more calories into him. Thankfully, his appetite is good; he’s feeling better now and the pain has subsided. He says the radiation actually made him feel like he's back in the land of the living.

Does anyone have suggestions regarding nutrition? I feel like I should know so much about diet, but when it comes to healthy people who are active, I'm fine—but when it's something like *this*, I feel like a total amateur.
I want him to gain weight as quickly as possible because I know he needs that energy for his rehab and his training sessions.

Everything happened so incredibly fast here in the States (he got the diagnosis back in June). I'm riding these massive waves of emotion myself, but I have to stay strong for him. I'm just grateful we're in this together, fighting this fight side-by-side.

Once I'm a little more mentally stable (I'm currently seven and a half months pregnant, so let's be honest, the hormones are definitely playing a part in how I'm feeling), I'll try to write something more detailed.

I wish all of you, and myself, nothing but the absolute best. What we are going through is profoundly unfair, but we can't lose hope. We have to give everything we've got to push through these crises and these heavy moments.

Which specific NET are we talking about? Pancreas? Other parts of the GI tract?
Because there are about a dozen different types, like gastrinoma, VIPoma, insulinoma, somatostatinoma, or glucagonoma.
silvercanyon7 silvercanyon7 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Apr 2010
#3512 ·
vividsailor7 said:Which NET are we talking about here? Pancreatic? Other parts of the GI tract?
There are plenty of them—gastrinomas, VIPomas, insulinomas, somatostatinomas, glucagonomas...

Hey vividsailor7,
I’ll send you a DM so I don't clutter up this thread. Thanks in advance.

I tried sending one, but it won't go through—the inbox is full.
graniteridge5 graniteridge5 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Apr 2019
#3513 ·
People, I’ve been reading through these threads where everyone claims they can't stand the nausea during chemotherapy—people saying they can't even keep food down—but my mother? She’s eating like she hasn't seen a meal in weeks. Since she started her treatment, she’s actually gained over 11 pounds... Is it even possible for chemo to be ineffective? To be fair, she’s taking just about everything under the sun to bolster her immunity and strength—beet juice, Cordyceps supplements, papaya tea, vitamins, honey, and even some aloe vera and honey concoctions.

I honestly don't know whether to be relieved that she still has her strength—because, naturally, I am thrilled she feels so well—but I am also terrified that maybe the treatment isn't actually working..
Angela Wright Angela Wright Regular
731 messages
joined Feb 2007
#3514 ·
graniteridge5 said:Guys, I’m reading all these posts where everyone is nauseous and can't eat a thing during chemo, but my mom is eating like a horse. Since she started her treatment, she’s actually gained over 10 pounds... Is it possible the chemo isn't working? To be fair, she’s taking everything under the sun for her immunity and strength—beet juice, Cordyceps supplements, papaya tea, vitamins, honey, and these aloe vera and honey concoctions.

I don't know whether to be happy that she still has her strength—I mean, obviously I'm glad she feels great—but I'm terrified that maybe the treatment isn't doing its job..

The absence or even the presence of side effects from chemotherapy, radiation, or any other type of treatmenthas absolutely zero correlation with how effective the treatment actually is.

Thank God your mom isn't dealing with those issues, because some people struggle so much with the treatment that they have to pause or stop it entirely, which then definitely impacts the outcome.
If she’s being given steroids like Medrol, those almost certainly cause increased appetite and "weight gain."
graniteridge5 graniteridge5 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Apr 2019
#3515 ·
Angela Wright said:If Mom is taking steroids like Medrol, they’re likely playing a role in her appetite and any "weight gain."

She’s currently on Paclitaxel/Carboplatin... does that cause weight gain? Or have we just overloaded her system with all those supplements meant to boost her immune system?
Angela Wright Angela Wright Regular
731 messages
joined Feb 2007
#3516 ·
graniteridge5 said:First comes the Paclitaxel/Carboplatin combo... does that cause weight gain, or have we just pumped her system full of all those supplements meant to boost her immunity?

No, it’s the chemo itself. But before she even starts a session, she'll almost certainly be given Dexamethasone or Medrol (corticosteroids). Beyond just being anti-inflammatory, they help dial down side effects like nausea.
What can actually sabotage the chemo's effectiveness, though, are all those various immune boosters and antioxidants. They tend to bind to the free radicals produced by the chemotherapy—the very things tasked with destroying the cancer cells. It's like trying to fight a fire while throwing water at the firefighters. Avoid taking those supplements on the days she actually receives treatment.
graniteridge5 graniteridge5 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Apr 2019
#3517 ·
Angela Wright said:No, we are talking about chemotherapy here. Usually, before the infusion begins, they’ll definitely administer some Dexamethasone or Medrol—standard corticosteroids. Beyond just being anti-inflammatory, they help mitigate those inevitable side effects like nausea.
What can actually undermine the chemo's efficacy, however, are those various immune boosters and antioxidants. They tend to bind themselves to the free radicals produced by the chemotherapy—the very toxins meant to target and destroy malignant cells. It is best to avoid them on the days treatment is administered.

she receives an injection through the IV, she won't be getting any pills...
And what exactly do you mean when you refer to "immune boosters"? Are we talking about papaya tea, beet juice, or Cordyceps supplements? Because that is what she takes to maintain her immunity... along with multivitamins or just vitamins found in fruit juices...
Angela Wright Angela Wright Regular
731 messages
joined Feb 2007
#3518 ·
graniteridge5 said:They get some kind of injection added to their IV, but they aren't getting any pills...
What exactly do you mean by "immune boosters"? Are we talking about papaya tea, beet juice, or Cordyceps supplements? That's the stuff she takes just to stay upright... along with multivitamins or just hitting the vitamins in her smoothies...

She's getting Dexamethasone intravenously.
Everything you just listed counts as an immune booster—basically anything meant to ramp up the immune system. You want to take those things during the gaps between treatment cycles so the body can actually recover for the next round; you definitely don't take them on the actual days she's undergoing therapy.
graniteridge5 graniteridge5 Newcomer
2 messages
joined Apr 2019
#3519 ·
Angela Wright said:She gets Dexamethasone intravenously.
Everything listed there falls under the category of immune boosters—essentially anything meant to bolster the system. These should be taken during the intervals between treatments to help the body recover for the next cycle; you definitely don't want to take them on the actual days of therapy.

She was taking them every single day, quite normally—just all of it, every day.
Chemo lasts for a single day, so when you say "days" in the plural... what does that actually imply? Are we talking a day or two before chemo and a day or two after, or how does that work?
Angela Wright Angela Wright Regular
731 messages
joined Feb 2007
#3520 ·
graniteridge5 said:She was taking them every single day, just like any other day, part of the routine.
Chemo lasts one day, so when you say "days," what exactly are we talking about? Are you referring to a couple of days before treatment, a couple after, or what?

You take a little break on the actual day of chemo and maybe a day or two afterward.
Generally speaking, you shouldn't be loading up on more than three different supplements at once—and I'm not even counting things like your menstrual cycle or actual food here. It puts unnecessary strain on the liver, which is already working overtime trying to process the chemotherapy. Once you settle on a regimen, it’s best to stick to it religiously from the first day to the last. Don't start playing musical chairs with your pills by constantly switching things up or stopping and starting.

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