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#21 ·
Megan Reed said:to sum it up:

Oct 30th, Devil's Night 😈
Oct 31st, Halloween [All Hallows' Eve] / Witches' Night
Nov 1st, All Saints' Day
Nov 2nd, All Souls' Day
Down in Mexico, they celebrate those first two days as Dia de los Muertos [Day of the Dead]😈—so if you ever find yourself traveling through Mexico around then, 😬

Anyway, people can celebrate whatever they want. 🙏

...and honestly, all four of these days have become completely commercialized here in the States.
Like when they set up those stands selling flowers and wreaths right outside cemeteries. 😲 It's tacky.
And don't even get me started on Halloween.
James Scott43 James Scott43 Newcomer
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#22 ·
Anonymous said:...and all four of those days here have become completely commercialized.
For instance, seeing flower stands right outside the cemeteries selling wreaths. 😲 It's just awful.
And don't even get me started on Halloween.

What about Christmas, when you have holiday decor, ornaments, cards, themed gifts, massive displays in every shopping mall, holiday parties, and little pop-up stalls all over town? Or Easter, with the plastic eggs, chocolate treats, candy shaped like eggs, bunnies, and all that other junk? You're telling me that isn't commercialism? Every single holiday is commercialized these days... honestly. I think everyone should just celebrate however they want and for whatever reasons they choose, without others jumping in to criticize, lecture, or act like they know better. 🙂
restlessfalcon5 restlessfalcon5 Member
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#23 ·
Jessica Chavez85 said:What about Christmas? You know, when shopping malls are plastered with ornaments, cards, themed gifts, and those tacky holiday displays? Or Easter, with its plastic eggs, chocolate treats, and endless rabbits? Is that not commercialism? Every single holiday is commercialized. People should be allowed to celebrate however they want, for whatever reason they choose. The rest can stop preaching and acting like they have some kind of moral high ground. 🙂

The issue isn't actually that Halloween is commercialized. It's just that because it comes from the USA, they feel insulted that they aren't making a profit off it. ☕
James Scott43 James Scott43 Newcomer
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#24 ·
Some folks just love growing pumpkins. ☕
Robert Baker2 Robert Baker2 Newcomer
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#25 ·
It hardly matters at this point...☕
wearyhound10 wearyhound10 Newcomer
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#26 ·
So it’s St. Patrick's Day, and I honestly don't get why we even bother with it... you see this huge crowd of people throwing on kilts—which aren't even Irish, they're Scottish, but hey, nobody actually knows the difference anyway—just drinking and screaming their heads off without having any clue who the guy actually was... just shoving those kilts on and acting like big shots while sipping Guinness and pretending to be some hardcore Irishman...🙄
wearyhound10 wearyhound10 Newcomer
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#27 ·
and honestly, I’m just feeling that old school vibe from deep down in my soul... like those classic days back in the day
mistymarlin6 mistymarlin6 Member
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#28 ·
First off, the church really doesn't have a clue when it comes to Halloween—or rather, All Hallows' Eve, which has absolutely nothing to do with witches or anything spooky. I honestly wonder what kind of idiot decided to translate it that way. How can they call it some sort of satanic "holiday"? Neither I, nor anyone else out there just hanging out with friends, is celebrating for Satan (though maybe some people are, but they're definitely in the minority). And, by the way, I was stuck in bed sick during Halloween🙂
Donna Murphy3 Donna Murphy3 Member
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#29 ·
Everything feels like a complete mess lately. From Easter through Halloween and all the way to Christmas... everything just feels so Americanized, I guess. You hardly see any of our old traditions anymore. Every single holiday now seems hijacked by American customs. At this rate, we’ll probably be celebrating Thanksgiving with turkey every single week. It's just... whatever. Everything played during Christmas is just "Jingle Bells" on repeat. Look, maybe I'm just being cynical, but if you want to live like that, go ahead and move to the States and celebrate it their way. Don't come here and try to turn everything into an American imitation. And Halloween? It's a total circus. It's basically just an excuse to go out, drink, get high, and party. I don't need Halloween just to have a night out. I think we're just blindly grabbing someone else's culture, and honestly, it's a disaster. We should just be ourselves. We aren't Americans, so why act like it?div>
Donna Murphy3 Donna Murphy3 Member
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#30 ·
Anyway, sorry about the typos. I just don't really have the energy to fix them right now...
Megan Reed Megan Reed Active Member
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#31 ·
Donna Murphy3 said:Halloween
Americanized
doesn't belong
in Jingle Bells
to America
no one needs
Halloween
traditions

Donna Murphy3 said:(hopefully I spelled that right)

From where I'm standing, you seem to have issues with basic American customs too, like simple spelling rules.

Donna Murphy3 said:Pretty soon we'll be celebrating Thanksgiving with turkey too

Now that we have Thanksgiving here in the States, why shouldn't someone eat turkey on that day if they feel like it? 😬

Some people even eat turkey with noodles for Christmas. ☕
hollowpanther5 hollowpanther5 Active MemberOP
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#32 ·
Donna Murphy3 said:Everything feels completely chaotic lately, from Easter all the way through Halloween and Christmas. Everything has been Americanized. You can barely see our traditional American customs anymore because every single holiday is being overtaken by American influence. At this rate, we’ll be celebrating Thanksgiving with turkey every single time. It's frustrating. All the music played during Christmas is just "Jingle Bells." Look, I'm not even in the States. If you want to celebrate things that way, go ahead and move to the USA and do it there instead of turning everything here into an American imitation. And Halloween is just a mess; it's basically just an excuse to go out, party, and do drugs. I don't need a holiday just as an excuse to go out. We are adopting foreign customs, and it's a disaster. We should stay true to ourselves. We are Americans, not some caricature of them!

Exactly!
hollowpanther5 hollowpanther5 Active MemberOP
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#33 ·
Megan Reed said:From what I can tell, you seem to be struggling even with basic American grammar and spelling rules.

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I am not making some grand plea for everyone to maintain perfect spelling and punctuation. This is a forum, after all.
P.S.
Since you have decided to take on the role of the resident editor here, I will just say one thing: you are going to be very busy.
nimbledrifter12 nimbledrifter12 Newcomer
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#34 ·
Look, I absolutely love Halloween and I honestly don't give a damn what anyone else thinks about it. Honestly, the only thing stuck in my head is some priest rambling on about stuff he clearly doesn't understand—as if he has any right to lecture me. Please, just get over it. Halloween isn't some sacred holiday. It’s just a day, plain and simple, where you get to dress up and actually have a good time. All this nonsense about how it's "just like something from America" and why that's bad... give me a break. Look at the US compared to us. How much have they really influenced us versus how much we've given them? Anyway, I won't ramble on too long... but seriously, there's nothing wrong with it. Ha!
Donna Murphy3 Donna Murphy3 Member
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#35 ·
Megan Reed said:From what I can tell, you seem to have a bit of an issue with certain American customs, like basic spelling rules and stuff.

If you happen to be blind, then my bad, I messed up some things... If you really need a formal apology, I can send you one in a DM.

Besides, there's no point in clinging to traditions that aren't ours anyway. Thank God I wasn't brainwashed by all that nonsense...
Donna Murphy3 Donna Murphy3 Member
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#36 ·
nimbledrifter12 said:Personally, I think Halloween is great, and I honestly don't care what anyone thinks about it. My last thought was some priest's lecture, but he clearly doesn't have a clue what he's talking about, let alone trying to lecture me. Please, give me a break—Halloween isn't some religious holiday. It’s just a day where you can dress up and have a good time. All this talk about how it's like something from the USA and doesn't fit here... I mean, look at the influence the US has on us. How much have they actually changed our culture compared to what we've done? Anyway, I won't ramble on... I don't see anything wrong with it. Ha!

There's plenty of bad stuff about it, mostly because people dress up like total fools. They paint their faces black and do all these stupid things. You don't just look messy walking down the street; you look like a complete DISASTER. Honestly, seeing everyone dressed like that feels like I've stepped into the ninth circle of hell... Witches, Dracula, vampires, and all that nonsense. Besides, back in my day, we had masquerades. Americans don't really do masquerades... Oh, wait, I forgot. Masquerades are for kids... So then what? Go ahead, be fools. Dress up like absolute idiots on a day when you should be thinking about your loved ones who passed away, instead of getting drunk in some suffocating club. You should show at least a little respect for those we've lost; they deserve it. And that priest knows exactly what he's talking about—probably better than you do, if you actually listened for once. Maybe then you'd realize he's not just talking nonsense...
nimbledrifter12 nimbledrifter12 Newcomer
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#37 ·
Donna Murphy3 said:There’s a ton of stuff wrong with this, mostly that everyone dresses up like total morons. You paint your faces black and all that nonsense—it’s not like you're just looking a bit messy on the streets, you look like a straight-up DISASTER! Honestly, seeing everyone dressed like that feels like I’ve walked right into the ninth circle of hell... Witches, Draculas, vampires, and all that crap... Whatever, old lady, if you and your crowd want to play dress-up, go ahead... Americans don't do "masquerades"... Ugh, wait, I forgot... Masquerades are for kids... Fine then... Go ahead and be idiots and dress like complete losers on a day when we should actually be thinking about our loved ones who passed, instead of getting wasted in some suffocating disco.... You should have at least a little respect for the dead; they deserve that much.... And the priest knows exactly what he's talking about, better than you know anything you're blathering about here—if you actually listened for once, you'd realize the priest isn't just talking nonsense...

Man, give me a break. We dress up because we actually enjoy it, not because it's some thing imported from overseas. Why can't we just have fun in a slightly different way? And if you didn't know, Halloween isn't even on All Saints' Day, it's the night before. But whatever, I can't stand people who are this narrow-minded, so I'm not gonna waste my breath trying to educate you.
And the priest was right, priests are always right... yeah, yeah, yeah... 🙄
hollowpanther5 hollowpanther5 Active MemberOP
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#38 ·
I never claimed anyone was right. My point is, if we’re going to celebrate Halloween (assuming we even are), I’d at least like to understand its origins. Is it just for the sake of following a trend?
Is this actually a tradition like Badanjak or Christmas?
All I'm saying is that this holiday doesn't really resonate with our culture. But hey, if people want to participate, that's their business.
At the end of the day, it's a personal choice.
mistymarlin6 mistymarlin6 Member
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#39 ·
Exactly. I mean, Halloween comes right before All Saints' Day, so I’m still scratching my head over why priests keep insisting on calling it "Witches' Night." What is the actual connection between Halloween and some spooky night of witches? I'm mostly talking about the way we translate the term.
Donna Murphy3 Donna Murphy3 Member
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#40 ·
mistymarlin6 said:Exactly. Halloween comes right before All Saints' Day, and I still don't get why priests call it "Witch Night." What's the actual connection there? I mean, the way we translate it just feels off.


If it isn't actually about witches, then why is everyone dressing up as them anyway? Or vampires, zombies, and all that other nonsense... It feels pretty pointless to me. I mean, come on. It’s like saying you can't have fun unless you pull a prank. It's just an excuse to go out. It's silly. And what even is "Halloween" to most people? Five years ago, half the country hadn't even heard of it, and now suddenly it's the biggest thing ever. Give me a break. If someone jumped out a window, would you do it just because it was trendy?

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