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Participants casualharbor9George Sanders37Benjamin Martin80rapidnomad512Anthony Perez9mellowlynx68Joseph Watson3Anthony Perez28Harold Walker44Gregory Peterson2Michelle EvansPeter Doyle2William Bennett53rustydrifter10
casualharbor9 casualharbor9 Active MemberOP
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#1 ·
So;

John Doe, in the general rules titled "What isn't allowed on Reddit?" states:

1. breaking US laws
2. violating generally accepted standards of civilization
3. harassment based on any grounds (race, nationality, religion, age, gender...)
...
5. profanity
...
7. posting pornographic or erotic content, including suggestive nudity or linking to such material (Google policy)
...
15. acting stupid


You can read all of that within this thread (do I really need to quote the whole thing?).
Why has this thread been sitting here for so long?
George Sanders37 George Sanders37 Active Member
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#2 ·
Thread on Reddit

poetry "par excellence" 🙄
Benjamin Martin80 Benjamin Martin80 Newcomer
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#3 ·
George Sanders37 said:Thread on Reddit

poetry "par excellence" 🙄

Frankly, I don't see those little messages of his as some kind of joke at all. Now, don't get me wrong—I am personally all for having a bit of fun and being irreverent on Reddit about pretty much anything, truly, I am—but writing about slaughtering a minor or shooting them in the head? That is an entirely different story. That crosses every conceivable line, and quite frankly, no sane individual should find that remotely funny or entertaining.
rapidnomad512 rapidnomad512 Member
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#4 ·
And there are traces of pedophilia in there.
Anthony Perez9 Anthony Perez9 Regular
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#5 ·
If it wasn't for this post, I would've missed out on some top-tier poetry. 👍
God bless Milton Hershey. 😁
mellowlynx68 mellowlynx68 Member
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#6 ·
rapidnomad512 said:And there are traces of pedophilia in there.

There aren't really "traces" of pedophilia.
It’s just songs about pedophilia actually happening.

That said, the writing is top-tier.
Joseph Watson3 Joseph Watson3 Active Member
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#7 ·
Anthony Perez9 said:If it wasn't for this post, I would've missed out on some top-tier poetry. 👍
God bless Milton Hershey. 😁

It would have slipped past me too. 👍

And as for these geniuses rambling on about pedophilia—are you perhaps projecting your own fantasies involving children? Honestly, I’ve read the entire thread and I don't see any pedophilia in there. Of course, unless you're reading your own delusions into the text to fit your specific little fantasies.
Anthony Perez28 Anthony Perez28 Member
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#8 ·
Joseph Watson3 said:It would have slipped past me too. 👍

And as for these geniuses rambling on about pedophilia—are you perhaps projecting your own fantasies involving children? Honestly, I’ve read the entire thread and I don't see any pedophilia in there. Of course, unless you're reading your own delusions into the text to fit your specific little fantasies.

First of all, based on every forum rule and under American law, this individual should have been reported to the authorities immediately.
I find it baffling that the administration hasn't sanctioned him yet; things like this, even if framed as a joke (which is pathetic, uncultured, uneducated, and frankly, shallow, sadistic, pedophilic, slimy, and disgusting), ought to be reported to the FBI.
Let this Mr. Pervert continue playing games with those in charge and singing his little pedophilic songs to them.🙂... the police would meet him with nothing but handcuffs. 😉

This kind of behavior is absolutely unacceptable. I truly don't understand how such a creep is still walking free.
Harold Walker44 Harold Walker44 Member
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#9 ·
Anthony Perez28 said:First of all, based on every forum rule and under American law, this individual should have been reported to the authorities immediately.
I find it baffling that the administration hasn't sanctioned him yet; things like this, even if framed as a joke (which is pathetic, uncultured, uneducated, and frankly, shallow, sadistic, pedophilic, slimy, and disgusting), ought to be reported to the FBI.
Let this Mr. Pervert continue playing games with those in charge and singing his little pedophilic songs to them.🙂... the police would meet him with nothing but handcuffs. 😉

This kind of behavior is absolutely unacceptable. I truly don't understand how such a creep is still walking free.

I second this, and I am confident that someone will eventually report this to the authorities.
I've already filed a report with Google.

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Gregory Peterson2 Gregory Peterson2 Member
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#10 ·
https://www.fbi.gov/ I'm not entirely sure if you can file a report through this site, or if it’s strictly reserved for kids under 15. 🤷

By the way, ignoring the authorities here on Reddit is actually a punishable offense too! It's not like anyone was offline—everyone has been lurking right here.
Michelle Evans Michelle Evans Regular
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#11 ·
It would be helpful if people actually understood what pedophilia entails before they start tossing psychiatric diagnoses around so recklessly...

Pedophilia refers to a sexual preference disorder where an individual finds prepubescent children (specifically those who have not yet developed secondary sexual characteristics) sexually stimulating, reaching arousal through fantasies involving prepubescent children or actual sexual contact with them.

Click
Peter Doyle2 Peter Doyle2 Active Member
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#12 ·
Gregory Peterson2 said:https://www.fbi.gov/ I'm not entirely sure if you can file a report through this site, or if it’s strictly reserved for kids under 15. 🤷

By the way, ignoring the authorities here on Reddit is actually a punishable offense too! It's not like anyone was offline—everyone has been lurking right here.

The lie is that we were all online—I mean, I'm certainly not the supermod for that PDF. How exactly are you, or anyone else, going to issue a Punishment to me??

And (since we already established it isn't pedophilia), what is CONCRETELY the issue here? What specific rule is being broken? Is it because certain cults are mentioned and such?
Do you think we should just delete the entire forest then? 🤷
Or is the issue simply that it's in verse?

No, seriously. I'm reading this and I honestly can't figure out where the actual problem lies... other than the fact that someone doesn't like it...
I don't like it either, but I still don't see a problem or any violation of the rules. 🤷
Because if this is a "no-go," then fine—we might as well just delete every single thread that describes any kind of sex in any way. Ever.
Harold Walker44 Harold Walker44 Member
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#13 ·
Michelle Evans said:It would be helpful if people actually understood what pedophilia entails before they start tossing psychiatric diagnoses around so recklessly...

Pedophilia refers to a sexual preference disorder where an individual finds prepubescent children (specifically those who have not yet developed secondary sexual characteristics) sexually stimulating, reaching arousal through fantasies involving prepubescent children or actual sexual contact with them.

Click

It would certainly be a benefit if you were appointed as a supermoderator, someone intimately familiar with the rules governing this particular subreddit...

The rules of this platform clearly prohibit erotic content on any pages where Google is running advertisements, a point the owner explicitly emphasized when establishing the guidelines... after all, the site is intended to function as a family-friendly corner of the internet...

Regardless of whether one classifies it as pedophilia, it is patently obvious that we are looking at a description of sexual conduct involving a minor. In the United States, if the individual involved is under the age of 15, that constitutes a serious crime...

And even in the end, there is this relentless, underlying push to promote violence...
rapidnomad512 rapidnomad512 Member
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#14 ·
Michelle Evans said:It would be helpful if people actually understood what pedophilia entails before they start tossing psychiatric diagnoses around so recklessly...

Pedophilia refers to a sexual preference disorder where an individual finds prepubescent children (specifically those who have not yet developed secondary sexual characteristics) sexually stimulating, reaching arousal through fantasies involving prepubescent children or actual sexual contact with them.

Click

I’ll give you that point. And sure, legally speaking, it might not technically be pedophilia since we don't know how old this "kid" really is—could be 14 for all we know. But the real question is: is it disgusting for a man to write stuff like this about a girl 45 years his junior?

I can't speak for you, but for me, it's revolting. Regardless, there is a very real possibility this falls under pedophilia, and until proven otherwise, I believe site moderators need to act preemptively. It’s better to scrub 100 threads like this than to let one single instance of pedophilia slip through the cracks.

Bow before my obelisk
child
address him with
your lofty rigidity

If you can't spot the predatory elements here, maybe the Child Advocate or the Children's Hospital will. I am currently forwarding this exact thread to them via email.
I’ll request their professional opinion, and I’m certain you'll receive their response through official channels.
Peter Doyle2 Peter Doyle2 Active Member
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#15 ·
Harold Walker44 said:It would certainly be a benefit if you were appointed as a supermoderator, someone intimately familiar with the rules governing this particular subreddit...

The rules of this platform clearly prohibit erotic content on any pages where Google is running advertisements, a point the owner explicitly emphasized when establishing the guidelines... after all, the site is intended to function as a family-friendly corner of the internet...

Regardless of whether one classifies it as pedophilia, it is patently obvious that we are looking at a description of sexual conduct involving a minor. In the United States, if the individual involved is under the age of 15, that constitutes a serious crime...

And even in the end, there is this relentless, underlying push to promote violence...

We're discussing the topic from that Literature PDF.
Should we ban the thread about Crime and Punishment? I mean, Rodion Raskolnikov killed that old lady and didn't even seem to feel bad about it—so, maybe it's a bit much? 😬
Should we ban quoting Pablo Neruda? 🤷 Man, there is just so much hidden eroticism in here—wow.
What are we even supposed to do about Edgar Allan Poe? Between the rumors of incest and the allegations of pedophilia—it’s a mess, I guess. 😬 Any threads about him and his work? I’m looking for some discussion from users who actually decided to go with the handle Edgar Allan Poe. 🤷

You can read between the lines about just about anything. ☕ That's it. Maybe even this smiley of mine actually means something else—like I want to pour scalding hot coffee on you, disfigure you, and basically just incite violence. 😬

As far as I'm concerned—and honestly, none of my fellow moderators have heard anything either—there hasn't been any gossip or direct orders to start deleting literary pieces containing erotic themes. I mean, quality and taste are subjective anyway, I guess.

Honestly, I feel like any mention of "boobs," "ass," "dick," or "pussy" should just be scrubbed from Reddit entirely. 🤷

So, what happens with that PDF movie? Do you guys think it needs to be permanently scrubbed—with all the drama and a formal seal from the Attorney General—because of that thread about the movie featuring blatant pedophilia? You know, that one with the little girl under fifteen getting tangled up with some nasty guy? Honestly, kill me now, I can't even remember the title and I haven't seen it, but apparently, it’s as messed up as they say. What are we going to do about it? And more importantly, what’s the move regarding the thread on *Mexican film*? It's just straight-up incest and pedophilia without any restraint. 🤷
Or maybe it’s fine—since it's technically "art," and we're just talking about some random anonymous user on Reddit, I guess.

I mean, how can you actually be sure that when they say "child," they’re talking about an actual kid and not just using it as some kind of metaphor??
Is God gay, though? I mean—since he told Moses to "love thy neighbor"? 😬

Come on, guys...
Is there an ombudsman for senior citizens? I’m looking to report Let 3 because of that animalistic sex myth they sing about with retirees—wait, hold on, actually the song is called "Children in Time," and I guess it might have some elements of pedophilia in it. Maybe?

Please, just leave me alone.
rapidnomad512 rapidnomad512 Member
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#16 ·
Alright, here is the official statement (I think?!).
I’ve sent this to the Department of Justice, the FBI, the Attorney General, and the Children's Hospital.

Potential appearance of pedophilic poetry on a media platform


To whom it may concern,
A user on a certain Reddit thread has started posting poetry titled "Poems about loving the neighbor forty-five years younger than me from the third floor."

This poetry includes the following verses, which I am providing as examples:

"Kneel before my obelisk
child
address him with
your uplifted rigidity"

"Love is gone no more
there are too many problems.

Your father reaches for his weapons
goodbye little whore
from the third floor."

"Motherfucker
you drooling slut
you wander around
with some scrawny minor.

I'm debating whether to shoot your dull head
or stab you with a kitchen knife.

That dilemma haunts me
but once I resolve it
you will find out."

"My pension arrives soon
I know you'll knock on my door
because you need new heels
you think you'll fuck me quickly
take the money and run
but I have other plans
I turned the pantry
into a soundproof torture room."

The entire work by this "idiot" can be read at the following link:

Thread on Reddit

The issue here is that the administration of the aforementioned forum sees nothing wrong with these poems and refuses to scrub them from the public sphere. They claim this isn't pedophilia. Therefore, I am requesting your professional opinion and asking that you send it to my email, as well as to forum@forum.hr so the administration is forced to take it into account. Furthermore, if you determine there are elements justifying intervention by the relevant authorities, please forward these links to them and initiate any necessary investigations to uncover all the facts of this matter.
Sincerely,
rapidnomad512 rapidnomad512 Member
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#17 ·
By the way, if you need to report pedophilia online, there’s an FBI app for that—though it’s pretty damn clunky.
Michelle Evans Michelle Evans Regular
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#18 ·
Harold Walker44 said:It would certainly be a benefit if you were appointed as a supermoderator, someone intimately familiar with the rules governing this particular subreddit...

The rules of this platform clearly prohibit erotic content on any pages where Google is running advertisements, a point the owner explicitly emphasized when establishing the guidelines... after all, the site is intended to function as a family-friendly corner of the internet...

Regardless of whether one classifies it as pedophilia, it is patently obvious that we are looking at a description of sexual conduct involving a minor. In the United States, if the individual involved is under the age of 15, that constitutes a serious crime...

And even in the end, there is this relentless, underlying push to promote violence...

I'm quite well aware of the rules here. For instance, you aren't allowed to share psychiatric diagnoses with others, and pedophilia falls under that category... It feels like people are dancing right on the edge of that line. Besides, I didn't join this community as a moderator, just as a regular user...

The forum rules prohibit erotic content on pages where Google runs ads. The owner explicitly stated this in the guidelines, as the site is intended to be a family-friendly platform...

I was simply addressing the allegations regarding pedophilia that have surfaced here... just like everyone else has. Engaging in these discussions isn't against the rules, regardless of what color your username is. I haven't touched on anything else; the PDF containing this topic isn't under my moderation, and I maintain my right to post as any other user would... besides, I have no business interfering since I'm not an admin. Those in charge will make the final call...

Regardless of whether you classify it as pedophilia, it’s clearly a description of sexual acts involving a minor. Under U.S. law, if the individual is under 15, it constitutes a crime...

It isn't exactly clear. There’s no mention of the age group involved, and there is a massive difference between just writing poetry and actually committing crimes... Or have they started making arrests just for fantasizing about criminal acts in their verses?

Just as a quick side note, has anyone here reported those bookstores to the FBI or other agencies? I was thinking of places that stock titles like Lolita or an American psychiatrist... some pretty fascinating literature...
Michelle Evans Michelle Evans Regular
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#19 ·
rapidnomad512 said:I’ll give you that point. And sure, legally speaking, it might not technically be pedophilia since we don't know how old this "kid" really is—could be 14 for all we know. But the real question is: is it disgusting for a man to write stuff like this about a girl 45 years his junior?

I can't speak for you, but for me, it's revolting. Regardless, there is a very real possibility this falls under pedophilia, and until proven otherwise, I believe site moderators need to act preemptively. It’s better to scrub 100 threads like this than to let one single instance of pedophilia slip through the cracks.

Bow before my obelisk
child
address him with
your lofty rigidity

If you can't spot the predatory elements here, maybe the Child Advocate or the Children's Hospital will. I am currently forwarding this exact thread to them via email.
I’ll request their professional opinion, and I’m certain you'll receive their response through official channels.

Maybe she's 14, maybe 15, or maybe she doesn't even exist. This poem is in a PDF where people essentially become their work. That includes the freedom to make things up...

The real question is whether it’s disgusting for a man to write such things about a girl 45 years his junior. I don't know about you, but to me, it's revolting.

Whether it's disgusting poetry or any other form of art labeled as "revolting," it isn't illegal, and that's the only thing that matters here. Whether someone likes it or not is secondary. My personal opinion on what is tasteful or not is irrelevant and shouldn't be the criteria for deciding the topic...

In any case, there's a possibility this involves pedophilia, and until proven otherwise, I think the site moderators should act preventatively. It's better to delete 100 threads like this than let one instance of pedophilia slip through.

If you ask me, I'd rather stick to the principle that everyone is innocent until proven guilty...
If you don't see elements of pedophilia here, perhaps the Child Advocate or the Children's Hospital will. I am currently emailing this thread to them.
I'll request their input, and I'm sure you'll receive it through official channels.

Maybe they will see it, maybe they won't. That's their expertise, and I have no issue if they reach that conclusion...

My apologies, I missed one rule violation...

Please refrain from insulting other users. You don't have the right to attack anyone on this thread, regardless of what you think of their posts...
rapidnomad512 rapidnomad512 Member
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#20 ·
Michelle Evans said:Maybe she's 14, maybe 15, or maybe she doesn't even exist. This poem is in a PDF where people essentially become their work. That includes the freedom to make things up...

The real question is whether it’s disgusting for a man to write such things about a girl 45 years his junior. I don't know about you, but to me, it's revolting.

Whether it's disgusting poetry or any other form of art labeled as "revolting," it isn't illegal, and that's the only thing that matters here. Whether someone likes it or not is secondary. My personal opinion on what is tasteful or not is irrelevant and shouldn't be the criteria for deciding the topic...

In any case, there's a possibility this involves pedophilia, and until proven otherwise, I think the site moderators should act preventatively. It's better to delete 100 threads like this than let one instance of pedophilia slip through.

If you ask me, I'd rather stick to the principle that everyone is innocent until proven guilty...
If you don't see elements of pedophilia here, perhaps the Child Advocate or the Children's Hospital will. I am currently emailing this thread to them.
I'll request their input, and I'm sure you'll receive it through official channels.

Maybe they will see it, maybe they won't. That's their expertise, and I have no issue if they reach that conclusion...

My apologies, I missed one rule violation...

Please refrain from insulting other users. You don't have the right to attack anyone on this thread, regardless of what you think of their posts...

If you’re referring to that "idiot" comment, I’ve attached the email I sent. But look, I agree—this is a clear violation of the rules. Issue the ban. I don't have a personal vendetta against him, but let's not start making exceptions. Follow the rulebook.

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