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Looking for a program to isolate vocals from music?

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Participants Richard Wright29Michael Anderson10casualridge9Terry Chase8Andrew Scott98slyorca11Andrew Davis2Carol Kelly74crimsonhound80wearyraven17
Richard Wright29 Richard Wright29 MemberOP
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#1 ·
As the title suggests: I'm looking for some software that can actually isolate vocals from a music track. Is that even possible with today's tech?
Michael Anderson10 Michael Anderson10 Member
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#2 ·
Just use the search function; there was already a thread about this
Richard Wright29 Richard Wright29 MemberOP
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#3 ·
Michael Anderson10 said:just try using the search function; there’s already been plenty of discussion on this topic

Believe me, I wouldn't be starting a whole new thread if I hadn't already exhausted every single possible avenue through searching first.🙄
casualridge9 casualridge9 Member
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#4 ·
Richard Wright29 said:I wouldn't have started this thread if I hadn't already exhausted every other option.🙄

What’s your take on this one? Are you looking for the perfect vocals, or is it all about the music?
Michael Anderson10 Michael Anderson10 Member
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#5 ·
As if that were possible
give it ten seconds
casualridge9 casualridge9 Member
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#6 ·
Michael Anderson10 said:Yeah, right, as if
it takes ten seconds


But honestly, if all you really need is just a good voice, then we're talking about something else entirely!
In that case, the answer is a flat NO!!!🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣
Terry Chase8 Terry Chase8 Member
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#7 ·
Just a bunch of crazy people 🙏 👎
Michael Anderson10 Michael Anderson10 Member
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#8 ·
Come on now
look at this

the vocals sound thin

If you take a track with vocals that are pushed out like that and invert it, while keeping the original track as is, that should do the trick—though I suppose that only works if the vocals are centered equally on both channels
casualridge9 casualridge9 Member
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#9 ·
Michael Anderson10 said:Oh, come on,
don't be serious.
Look at this...
the vocals sound totally washed out.

If you take a track with vocals that pushed that far out, invert it while leaving the original track untouched, that's the trick—but that only really works if the vocals are centered perfectly on both channels.

And that’s with some light background music playing! Honestly, wouldn't it be way easier to just handle that with an equalizer? You'd get the same result, maybe even a better one if you have the ability to tweak multiple channels at once.
Michael Anderson10 Michael Anderson10 Member
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#10 ·
Well, damn, if there's even a hint of background music playing, then a program like that just doesn't exist... and I suppose you can't really achieve that kind of result using an equalizer either.
Andrew Scott98 Andrew Scott98 Member
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#11 ·
To kind of thing? You’re gonna need some seriously heavy-duty, professional software to pull it off right. Anything else is just gonna turn down the volume on everything else without actually extracting the vocals.
Richard Wright29 Richard Wright29 MemberOP
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#12 ·
Andrew Scott98 said:If you actually want to pull this off properly, you’re going to need some heavy-duty, professional-grade software. Anything less isn't really extracting the vocals; it’s just turning down the volume on everything else.

Well, if you know which program actually works, why not just drop the name? That's exactly what I'm looking for.😬
By the way—you guys certainly aren't holding back on the commentary, are you? God bless.👍
Andrew Scott98 Andrew Scott98 Member
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#13 ·
Richard Wright29 said:Just tell me the name of the software if you know it, that's what I'm looking for😬
Anyway—man, you guys sure love to write, bless your hearts👍

hahaha, man, must be easy for you to reach sexual nirvana... just drop a few posts and boom... 🙂

I've never used a program like that, but hey, I'll go Google it right now. If I find something, I'll let you know... maybe try searching some specific keywords that matter to you.
Andrew Scott98 Andrew Scott98 Member
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#14 ·
Ableton Live, Google actually suggested that one to me first... give it a shot. It’s got a voice extractor, though I feel like it’s a bit weak. But hey, try it—maybe you'll get good enough results to be happy with them.
Richard Wright29 Richard Wright29 MemberOP
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#15 ·
Andrew Scott98 said:Ableton Live was the first thing Google suggested when I searched... give it a shot. It has a voice extractor feature, though I suspect the software might be a bit underwhelming. Still, why not try it? You might just get results good enough to satisfy you.

I’ve tried dozens of different tools, but honestly, none of them actually work. 🙄 They all claim to be top-tier, but once you actually install them, you realize they aren't worth a single damn cent. 😁 And look, I'm not saying this because I'm looking for some kind of nirvana; I'm saying it because I know you guys are always ready to lend a hand to someone wandering lost in a wilderness of information. 😎
Even Mesić couldn't hold a candle to this group.😬
Andrew Scott98 Andrew Scott98 Member
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#16 ·
Alright, I’ll look into it tomorrow and give you a heads-up. 🙂
Richard Wright29 Richard Wright29 MemberOP
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#17 ·
Andrew Scott98 said:Alright, I'll look into it tomorrow and give you an update once I know more. 🙂

Oh, come on, you know you do. 🙂 I honestly feel like I owe you a coffee just for all the hard work you've put in so far. Seriously, how can I ever repay you? 👍
slyorca11 slyorca11 Member
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#18 ·
Unless you’re working with original studio multi-tracks, there really isn't a perfect way to isolate a vocal.

All those karaoke apps and AI voice removers basically work on the same principle—they rely on the fact that vocals are typically mixed into the center channel, meaning they hit the left and right speakers equally, while instruments are panned differently. Essentially, they just grab whatever is common to both channels. Interestingly, you can actually replicate this effect physically by reversing the polarity on one speaker (I stumbled onto that once after a wiring mishap. 🙂).

Beyond that, you might get some minor improvements by filtering out frequencies that don't show up much in the vocal, but the gains are tiny and you end up sacrificing vocal quality in the process.

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Andrew Scott98 Andrew Scott98 Member
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#19 ·
slyorca11 said:There’s really no magic way to pull a vocal out unless you’ve got the original studio multi-tracks where the vocals are on their own dedicated track.

Basically, all those karaoke apps and AI voice removers work on the same principle—they rely on the fact that vocals are usually centered (panned equally left and right), while instruments are spread out. They just grab whatever is common to both channels. It’s actually funny because you can get that exact same effect just by flipping the wires on one speaker—I figured that out by accident once when I wired something up wrong! 🙂).

On top of that, you might see some tiny improvements by filtering out frequencies that aren't heavy in the vocal range, but honestly, the difference is negligible and it always makes the vocal sound worse.

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Yeah, what you're saying is spot on, but I heard there’s some high-end software that handles this incredibly well. Maybe Richard Wright29 would be happy with that kind of result. 🙂
Richard Wright29 Richard Wright29 MemberOP
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#20 ·
If I could actually track down something like that, I’d be more than happy. I just need to pin down the specific name of a program that actually functions, and then I'll figure out a way to get my hands on it eventually.😬
Thanks for all the effort here; you're a total lifesaver.🙏

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