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Co-pays and out-of-pocket costs

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northernviper392 northernviper392 MemberOP
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#1 ·
I’ll be honest, I haven't quite wrapped my head around all these recent healthcare shifts, but there's one thing that's really tripping me up.
So, they've rolled out these new fees, capped at $10 per month. Does that mean they're basically replacing our old co-pays? Or is it something else entirely?
And what about those of us who rely on those specific exemption cards to waive the co-pay? I caught a snippet of conversation suggesting those cards might not even be relevant to this new system anymore—that they still hold value for something else, perhaps... though I couldn't quite catch the details.
Now everything just feels like a giant blur of confusion...

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Any clarity would be appreciated!
Megan Reed Megan Reed Active Member
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joined Sep 2005
#2 ·
northernviper392 said:Do we still need those exemption cards if we're actually using them?

Yes, they do.

That card is basically just for handling your copays, prescriptions, referrals, or medical transport—it’s clearly stated right there on the payment slip.
steelsailor17 steelsailor17 Member
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joined Jan 2003
#3 ·
Having supplemental insurance doesn't change a thing.
They’ll just keep systematically billing you for every single scrap of paperwork through $3.25.
And honestly, I have no clue how you even prove you've already paid your taxes for the month—probably just by waving some receipts around.
So here's the real kicker: how does anyone at Medicare actually know if someone has already covered their $10 for the month? If they've already paid, they shouldn't be charged again...
I mean, if you happen to get on the good side of a clerk, she might just tell them you're all set $10 and you won't get billed a dime.
How on earth is Medicare supposed to track all that?
They really ought to develop some kind of integrated software system to track existing payments—which would probably cost millions of dollars—but hey, as long as the bureaucrats keep lining their pockets, who cares...
Morgan Wright Morgan Wright Member
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joined May 2005
#4 ·
At the end of each month, doctors have to file a full report detailing everything—exactly who showed up and how many visits were made—so Medicare knows precisely how many times you've been in.
If they slip up, of course, there’s no way to catch or penalize them during the actual month; it only comes to light once the audit hits...
analogwolf2 analogwolf2 Member
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joined Sep 2007
#5 ·
Look, it all boils down to this: we pay our mandatory insurance premiums just to ensure a healthcare system even exists, giving us the right to access it. Then, once we actually need to use it, we get hit with another bill for the "service" provided. What’s the point? Is this supposed to make our lives better? 🙂
Why go through all this trouble? BECAUSE WE VOTED FOR CAPITALISM!👋
cosmicpanther41 cosmicpanther41 Member
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#6 ·
I guess you should keep your receipts until the end of the month and always bring them along to your doctor appointments
Once you've filled out $10 and show them the receipt, they shouldn't charge you anything extra
But if you happen to lose a receipt or forget to bring it to show them, then you might have to pay...
Morgan Wright Morgan Wright Member
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#7 ·
If you're seeing your doctor regularly, I highly doubt they'll charge you for a fourth visit—after all, they have your entire medical history logged in your file, don't they?
cosmicpanther41 cosmicpanther41 Member
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#8 ·
True, but I guess that applies to dentists and OB-GYNs too
Everything is bundled together, even though they usually keep separate medical records
Morgan Wright Morgan Wright Member
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joined May 2005
#9 ·
I wasn't aware that coverage extended to doctors, dentists, and OB-GYNs as well...
Susan Rodriguez72 Susan Rodriguez72 Member
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joined May 2009
#10 ·
Is there still a cap $10 on doctor co-pays under this new healthcare reform?
redpilot37 redpilot37 Active Member
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#11 ·
Susan Rodriguez72 said:Is there still a cap $10 on co-pays at the doctor's office under this new healthcare reform?

No, that's gone. They bumped the limits way up now.😢😲
Susan Rodriguez72 Susan Rodriguez72 Member
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#12 ·
redpilot37 said:No, those days are long gone; the numbers have ballooned way past that now.😢😲

Pfft. 😠
So, what you're saying is I can be hit with a $167 co-pay at my primary care doctor within a single month? (I mean, practically speaking, that's nearly impossible, but theoretically...)
redpilot37 redpilot37 Active Member
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#13 ·
Susan Rodriguez72 said:Give me a break. 😠
So basically, within a single month, they can start charging $167 copays at a primary care office (which is almost impossible in practice, but theoretically...)

From what I understand, if you're at the hospital, it’s all based on the bill—if you don't have supplemental insurance, you'll be paying up to $1000% of the hospital service fees. That applies to surgeries too. It sucks, but that's just how it works.
With a doctor, you might end up paying $10 or $5.00 per visit, or $3.50 per prescription at the pharmacy when you pick up meds without supplemental coverage—and that includes those specialized prescriptions that really shouldn't have a cost attached to them.
Susan Rodriguez72 Susan Rodriguez72 Member
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#14 ·
redpilot37 said:the highest $1000 for hospital services,

What is that supposed to mean?
The maximum $1000 in the hospital?
I just finished a stint in neurology... I paid so many copays my head was spinning, but honestly, it’s still cheaper than paying for supplemental insurance all year long. 🙂
The only thing you never know is when life will throw an emergency at you... a wreck, a crash, cancer... and those things can get incredibly expensive!
Brandon Newman95 Brandon Newman95 Active Member
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#15 ·
Susan Rodriguez72 said:Wait, what does that even mean?
Max $1000 at the hospital?
I actually just finished up some neurology stuff myself... honestly, paying all those co-pays was enough to give me a headache, but still, it feels cheaper than shelling out for full supplemental insurance for an entire year. 🙂
The thing is, you never know when life is going to throw a curveball at you... a wreck, a crash, cancer... and that kind of stuff can get insanely expensive!

Well, obviously, neurological tests aren't cheap. I’ve been through the ringer—neurology, hematology, endocrinology, internal medicine, plus some other specialist stuff—all privately.
Is it actually cheaper to pay for supplemental coverage all year, or is it better to just have it? Because I used to be right where you are.
What good is supplemental insurance to me if I haven't seen a doctor in ages? But this year, it’s definitely paid off for me.
I actually signed up because a nurse in hematology suggested it—and man, am I glad I did. It’s been worth every penny since I’m practically at the doctor every single month with a mountain of referrals, prescriptions, and whatever else.
My advice: just get the supplemental coverage. You never know when you're gonna need it.
Susan Rodriguez72 Susan Rodriguez72 Member
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#16 ·
Kimberly Ward said:My advice: get that supplemental insurance—you never know when you might actually need it.

Oh, right... I'm just realizing that now 🙂 when I'm perfectly healthy and only see a doctor once every couple of years... because clearly, nothing bad could ever happen to me, right?
redpilot37 redpilot37 Active Member
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joined Sep 2008
#17 ·
Susan Rodriguez72 said:What does that even mean?
The max $1000 at the hospital?
I just finished up in neurology... I paid so many co-pays my head was spinning, but honestly, it still felt cheaper than paying for supplemental insurance all year long. 🙂
The thing is, you never know when something urgent hits... an accident, a wreck, cancer... and those things can get incredibly expensive.

It’s the maximum $1000 per hospital stay or bill. Usually, that higher amount refers to surgeries where you don't have supplemental coverage—that's when the numbers really jump.
Personally, I think it's better to just get the supplemental plan and have peace of mind.☕
Brandon Newman95 Brandon Newman95 Active Member
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#18 ·
Susan Rodriguez72 said:Ugh, yeah... honestly, that's me right there. 🙂 When you’re feeling perfectly fine and only bother seeing a doctor once every couple of years... you just don't give a damn about anything going wrong.

It’s been way longer than two years since my last checkup, too, but man—reading this is like looking in a mirror.

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