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no more Heart Disease: How Nitric Oxide Can Prevent -- Even revers -- Heart Disease and Stroke

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casualnomad42 casualnomad42 MemberOP
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#21 ·
nimbledriver81 said:Honestly, we’re all just losing our will to deal with this. Every single time, some new user pops up under a different handle just to spout the exact same nonsense. You want my take on the comments? Look—if McChummermayo doesn't even grasp what arginine actually is, then yeah, obviously they’re going to stumble around typing "arginin" one second and "arginine" the next. It’s predictable. But for anyone who actually knows their stuff about arginine? That kind of sloppy writing sticks out like a sore thumb—it immediately exposes exactly how little "knowledge" they really have.

What would I say about magic? Honestly—it’s everything. It really is. Matters more than people care to admit, I guess. Who? It’s all talk and zero action—nothing but empty words. sto Speak up.

You're actually quite brilliant... 😁

Does what YOU have to say even matter??? 😉 😁

http://www.nrg-fit.com/summer.asp

Check this out—if you want to dive into the science behind how we actually function, you really need to look at what Dr. Louis Ignarro has been doing. It’s not just some random health fad; there is actual, heavy-hitting research here that connects directly to the Nobel Prize. Basically, the whole game-changer is Nitric Oxide. We aren't just talking about a little boost in circulation—we are talking about a fundamental biological mechanism. You have researchers like Robert Furchgott, who won the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine, along with Ferid Murad and Louis Ignarro, who basically laid the groundwork for understanding how this molecule works in our bodies. It’s wild, honestly—this one substance acts as a signaling molecule that tells our vessels to relax, which is huge for cardiovascular health. I mean, when you look at the work coming out of places like the University of Texas Medical Branch in Houston, or even the studies linked to UCLA, the connection between Nitric Oxide levels and heart health is undeniable. It’s the reason why we can talk about things like "no more Heart Disease" in a way that isn't just empty marketing fluff—it's grounded in real physiology. It makes you wonder—given how much the medical community now understands about vasodilation—why aren't more people focusing on supporting these pathways naturally? If the Nobel Prize Committee recognized this level of discovery, then the implications for preventing things like stroke or chronic heart issues are massive. It’s all connected.

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Check out this document—it’s the actual Nobel Prize lecture from the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine website. It’s some heavy lifting, but honestly, if you want to understand how we actually get to a point where there is "no more Heart Disease," you really need to dig into the mechanics of Nitric Oxide. It covers the foundational work done by guys like Robert Furchgott, Louis Ignarro, and Ferid Murad. It's a deep dive into how our own biology handles vasodilation—stuff that eventually changed everything we know about cardiovascular health. Definitely worth a read if you're tired of the surface-level nonsense.

Check out this link—it’s the autobiography of one of the Nobel Prize winners in Physiology or Medicine: http://nobelprize.org/medicine/laure...o-autobio.html
casualnomad42 casualnomad42 MemberOP
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#22 ·
rustymoose54 said:Honestly, this subforum is absolutely suffering from a total lack of moderation.

... plus there are way too many people acting like they're "god's gift to humanity" .. 😉 😁
rustymoose54 rustymoose54 Active Member
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#23 ·
casualnomad42 said:... plus all those people who think they're "blessed from above"... 😉 😁

which isn't true; the only thing truly blessed is Herbalife. 🙂
Jose Miller3 Jose Miller3 Regular
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#24 ·
Honestly, what I find totally awesome about this is just clicking over to this page, http://niteworks.edietstar.com/facts.html — I actually clicked it myself because I wanted to see what the REAL deal was regarding Niteworks, you know? It’s way different from those mindless Macov translations... Try counting all the asterisks (*). Every single one of those little stars means the sentence before it hasn't been verified, isn't proven, and is most likely just plain wrong.

So, if you want to be smart about it, try counting only the statements that DON'T have an asterisk... just take those for granted...
Frank Alvarez8 Frank Alvarez8 Member
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#25 ·
Rachel Brooks63 said:What I find really interesting is when you click on this page, http://niteworks.edietstar.com/facts.html (I clicked it myself because I wanted to see what the actual facts say about Niteworks, unlike those terrible Macov translations), try counting all the asterisks (*). Every single one of those * means the sentence before it hasn't been verified, isn't proven, and is very likely untrue.

So, just try counting the statements that DON'T have an asterisk, and only take those for granted...

Don't be so harsh, Rachel Brooks63, there's actually 1 sentence without an asterisk 😁
nimbledriver81 nimbledriver81 Active Member
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#26 ·
casualnomad42 said:You’re incredibly sharp... 😁

But wait—does what YOU say actually matter??? 😉 😁

a) I certainly am. 🙂

b) Yes. 🙂
casualnomad42 casualnomad42 MemberOP
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#27 ·
Rachel Brooks63 said:Honestly, what I find absolutely brilliant—and I mean this sincerely—is when you actually click through to this page. It's just... great. Check out the facts here: http://niteworks.edietstar.com/facts.html I clicked on it—mostly because I was genuinely curious to see what was ACTUALLY written about Niteworks, as opposed to those pathetic, low-budget Macov translations everyone uses. But honestly? Try counting all those asterisks (*). Every single one of those little stars basically means the sentence preceding it is unverified, totally unproven, and most likely just plain false.

Look, why don't you try counting only the statements that DON'T have an asterisk—and then just take those as gospel? That’s my suggestion, anyway.

Look, it’s pretty obvious at this point—your comments are just pathetic... 😢 😉

Just a heads-up—these claims haven't been vetted by the Food and Drug Administration. This product isn't meant to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any kind of disease.

Look, let me be crystal clear about this—Niteworks isn't some pharmaceutical drug! It’s a botanical supplement—basically a specific blend of three amino acids combined with Vitamin C and Vitamin E!!!

Look, let's get one thing straight—this doesn't even fall under the jurisdiction of the Food and Drug Administration!!!

You’re really showing your true colors with a statement like that:
"Unproven and—quite frankly—probably just plain false..." 🙂
Frank Alvarez8 Frank Alvarez8 Member
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#28 ·
And which independent institution actually verified those Herbalife claims? 🙄
dustycanyon6 dustycanyon6 Active Member
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#29 ·
casualnomad42 said:1) Niteworks isn't some pharmaceutical drug—it's just a herbal supplement made from three amino acids plus Vitamins C and E!!!

So if it's a "herbal supplement," why on earth is there a synthetic sweetener in it? (I mean, sucralose... basically Splenda... which is just junk similar to aspartame)...😁

Why not Use Splenda? Well, look, animal studies have actually pointed out that sucralose can trigger all sorts of issues, like:
* Atrophy of lymph follicles in The spleen and thymus * Increased cecal weight * Reduced growth rate * Decreased red blood Cell count * Hyperplasia of The pelvis * Extension of The pregnancy period * Aborted pregnancy * Decreased fetal body weights and placental weights
* Enlarged liver and kidneys
* Atrophy of lymph follicles in The spleen and thymus
* Increased cecal weight
* Reduced growth rate
* Decreased red blood cell count
* Hyperplasia of The pelvis
* Extension of The pregnancy period
* Aborted pregnancy
* Decreased fetal body weights and placental weights
* Diarrhea
wiredfox34 wiredfox34 Newcomer
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#30 ·
casualnomad42, casualnomad42
Man, you really went on a rant there, didn't you?
I don't think you're actually looking for a meaningful discussion here,
you're just hunting for a way to make a quick buck.

So, look,
listen closely,

As long as there have been people on this planet, there have been problems—and naturally, there has always been marketing.
The trick is to identify a problem and then engineer a marketing angle to sell a product.
And let's be honest, you can only ever prove that things like minerals, vitamins, or even distilled water aren't inherently harmful.
Look at the issues we face today:
obesity,
balding,
cardiovascular disease... .......
Just watch the endless sea of "saviors" and their supplements.
Target obesity? The result is a population that keeps getting heavier. Target balding? The result is a population that keeps getting bald. Target cardiovascular issues? Well, thanks to our one true savior, may God deliver us from those results.

I hope you're finally satisfied with that sensible answer.
In the meantime, stick to some old-fashioned wisdom:
eat, drink, stay varied, and practice moderation. Enjoy life and enjoy a good drink,
and keep exercising regularly
until your muscles are absolutely swollen. 👋
casualnomad42 casualnomad42 MemberOP
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#31 ·
dustycanyon6 says:

What exactly is a synthetic sweetener—like sucralose (Splenda, which is basically junk similar to aspartame)—actually doing inside a "herbal supplement"?



Maybe you should just head over to the actual thread—it’s all being discussed there anyway. My vision is starting to go—it feels like everything is just blurring out.Maybe your experience over there might actually be a bit more useful? ... 😁

The product label says...Natural Natural Flavor and Sucralose (Nonnutritive sweeteners—it’s such a loaded term, isn't it? People throw it around like they actually know what they're talking about, but when you really dig into the chemistry of it, things get complicated fast. I mean, we’re talking about substances that provide sweetness without the caloric punch, which sounds like a dream for anyone trying to watch their weight—but is it actually a win? Maybe. Or maybe it's just another way to mask a poor diet. It's all very nuanced, though most people seem to prefer a quick answer over the actual truth.)", ... 😉 😎

It’s honestly kind of hilarious how many self-proclaimed "Nobel Prize winners" we have on this forum—people who act like they know everything under the sun and can somehow find some hidden "trap" or conspiracy in absolutely everything... 😁
dustycanyon6 dustycanyon6 Active Member
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#32 ·
casualnomad42 says:

dustycanyon6 said:Maybe you should just head over to the main thread... My vision is starting to go...Maybe your experience over there might be a bit more useful? .. 😁

The label says...Natural... Natural Flavor and Sucralose...Nonnutritive sweeteners... they're everywhere now, aren't they? You see them on almost every label in the grocery store. It's funny how much things have changed... just a little thought for the day.)", ... 😉 😎

Don't be so naive! "Natural" refers to the Flavor, not the sucralose... because we all know sucralose isn't exactly natural... 😉
casualnomad42 casualnomad42 MemberOP
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#33 ·
wiredfox34 said:First, you have to actually identify the core issue—and I mean really dig into it—and then, naturally, you have to frame that problem through a marketing lens if you ever want to actually move any product.
I mean, let’s be real here—the only things you can actually prove aren't harmful are basic minerals, vitamins, and IV fluids... all the way down to plain old distilled water. Everything else? It's anyone's guess, I suppose.

Look, we really need to pay attention to the problems we're facing today.
Overweight—it’s such a massive, complicated issue, isn't it? It’s not just about what you eat, though everyone loves to point the finger there—it’s much deeper than that. Honestly, I think we tend to oversimplify the whole thing, which is frustrating because, let's face it, managing weight is an absolute uphill battle for so many people in America. There are hormones, metabolism, stress levels—all these moving parts that most "quick fix" diets completely ignore. It’s exhausting just thinking about it.
Baldness. Honestly, it’s one of those things that just gets under your skin—it's frustrating, it's visible, and frankly, it can feel like a constant, nagging battle with your own reflection. I guess some people just breeze through life without giving it a second thought, but for others? It’s a real headache. There’s so much noise out there—endless products, questionable promises, and enough marketing fluff to fill a stadium—that it’s hard to know what actually works versus what’s just a massive waste of cash. It's maddening, really.
cardiovascular
.......
Watch out—there are way too many so-called saviors and "miracle" supplements out there these days. Honestly, you have to be careful.
Excessive weight... the end result? A population that just keeps getting heavier and heavier—it's honestly infuriating.
Baldness... that's the result—the population is just getting balder and balder.
Cardiovascular issues... honestly, thank God for the savior who finally delivers—may we all be blessed with those results!

I really hope you’re finally satisfied with an answer that actually makes sense.

Of course I'm not... 😁

I have no idea what you're calling a coherent response—a response to what, exactly?
I mean, I can certainly agree with some of the facts you're pointing out—really, I can—but I’m just sitting here wondering... what exactly is the point of the answer you're giving me? What am I supposed to do with that? 😕

If you actually took a moment to familiarize yourself with what I write about on this forum, maybe you’d realize that I’m not out here peddling "weight loss supplements"—nor am I pushing any specific diet—but rather focusing on an actual way of eating (real food) that stays balanced and hits the exact same goal you mentioned at the end—moderation and variety.

The reality of day-to-day life is just so much messier than people want to admit—and honestly, due to a whole mountain of excuses (if we're being real here), most people just can't seem to strike that perfect balance. You know, that elusive trifecta of actually taking care of yourself, finding the time, and having the actual willpower to educate yourself on how to stay healthy and vital. It’s a struggle, I guess. 🙂

Look, the issues you're bringing up aren't something you catch through the air—it’s not some airborne contagion. It all boils down to nutrition—specifically, whether or not you're actually getting the essential micronutrients your body needs to function. These things are absolutely vital to our biology, and when you're running low on them, that's exactly when health problems start cropping up. Honestly? I'd argue that what we're *missing* from our diet is way more critical than the stuff we're actually shoving into it. 😉

Look, at the end of the day—and I really mean this—people aren't getting heavier just because of thin air or some magic "diet supplement" craze. It’s the food. Plain and simple. We are dealing with a massive decline in nutritional quality because everything is being churned out through these hyper-accelerated industrial processes—it’s all about speed now, isn't it? And that is exactly the reality we can't just ignore when we talk about whether our bodies are actually getting the vital nutrients they need to function. I mean, honestly, who can even be certain what's actually inside the stuff we're buying at the grocery store these days? It's a complete toss-up. Even at the local farmers' market—honestly, you can't escape it anywhere..

This supplement is an absolute necessity—I mean, it should be considered primary protection—for so many people who are basically stuck because they can't move enough due to excessive weight. But honestly? It could probably help any living human being out there who just wants to feel better.

The Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine—it’s always such a massive deal, isn't it? Every time they announce the winners, you see all these headlines about how much the field has shifted. It really makes you think about the sheer scale of discovery required to reach that level of recognition. You just don't mess around when it comes to serious stuff—especially when we're talking about cardiovascular issues and the actual facts pointing toward solutions for today's biggest killers, heart attacks and strokes. Honestly, all this spitting and belittling of those facts by the "know-it-alls"—people like Sarah Gomez52, nimbledriver81, Rachel Brooks63, rustymoose54, and jadesailor14—just goes to show exactly where our society has headed. It's honestly exhausting. 😢 👎

wiredfox34, no hard feelings—I hope I managed to clear up my stance for you, at least a little bit. Anyway, enjoy your whole "eat, drink, stay varied, and keep it moderate" philosophy. 😉 👍 👋
Jose Miller3 Jose Miller3 Regular
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#34 ·
casualnomad42 said:Sarah Gomez52, nimbledriver81, Rachel Brooks63, rustymoose54, jadesailor14

and honestly, I’m kind of insulted that you’re putting me in the same group as them...
casualnomad42 casualnomad42 MemberOP
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#35 ·
dustycanyon6 said:You're being naive! "Natural" refers to the Flavor, not the sucralose—because obviously, sucralose isn't natural! 😉

Look, kid—I really don't want to get bogged down in the weeds or waste my breath bickering with you—but I honestly have to wonder... WHO ARE YOU to be questioning something formulated by a Nobel Prize winner??? 😕

If you actually want a straight answer, why don't you just email your questions—or whatever doubts you're nursing—directly to Dr. Ignarro... and you might actually get one. 😉 😁
casualnomad42 casualnomad42 MemberOP
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#36 ·
Rachel Brooks63 said:And once again—honestly, I’m a little insulted that you’re grouping me in with that crowd...

That’s great... just enjoy yourself! 😉
If you all actually took that massive amount of knowledge you claim to have and channeled it toward something productive—something actually useful—maybe one of you might finally see some real benefits. But doing things this way? It’s a lost cause... honestly, if you keep acting like this, the only thing your "good intentions" will ever accomplish is helping some old neighborhood witch cast a hex on you. 😈 😁
nimbledriver81 nimbledriver81 Active Member
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#37 ·
casualnomad42 said:Look, kid—I’m really not looking to dive into the weeds here or get into some petty back-and-forth with you—but I genuinely have to wonder: WHO ARE YOU to be questioning something formulated by a Nobel Prize winner??? 😕

The issue isn't about who came up with what; it's simply that you clearly don't have a clue. dustycanyon6 is trying to tell you nicely that your translation is off. And honestly, if you can't even get the translation right, how on earth are you supposed to grasp the actual meaning of the text?...

The stuff you're championing on this forum? It's NOT food.

Thanks for putting me in such "distinguished" company. I'll be sure to take note of that.
Jose Miller3 Jose Miller3 Regular
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#38 ·
I’m honestly dying to see what happens when Mac realizes that regulating smooth muscle through Nitric Oxide is actually what makes sildenafil work for that specific guy problem... He’ll probably just pack up and move straight over to Hazelnut—selling them his own formula loaded with NO in no time... 😂
granitegull3 granitegull3 Member
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#39 ·
Rachel Brooks63 said:I find myself wondering what will happen once Mac realizes that the regulation of smooth muscle through Nitric Oxide is actually responsible for how sildenafil works on that one specific male issue. He’ll probably jump ship immediately to Hazelnut and start pitching them his own supplement packed with Nitric Oxide. 😂

casualnomad42 said:In recent years, medical and pharmacological research has placed Nitric Oxide at the very center of understanding the physiological process of an erection. Because of this significant focus, it has become the primary target for blockbuster drugs like Viagra.

Stockholm — Nitric Oxide (NO) is a bit of a paradox; it is simultaneously harmful and absolutely vital for all multicellular organisms. Within the human body, its primary role is acting as a messenger molecule. Because it is such a highly reactive and potent substance, it typically reaches its target within mere seconds before breaking down immediately. Nitric Oxide isn't something that gets stored away for later; instead, it is produced on demand, right where it is needed. Since the molecule consists of only two atoms, it can easily slip through cell walls. While many different parts of our bodies—like the brain or the kidneys—produce NO, its most famous function lies in how it regulates blood pressure. Endothelial cells act much like a biological wallpaper, lining the interior of our blood vessels and releasing Nitric Oxide into the surrounding smooth muscle. It is these specific cells that are responsible for dilating the vessels and ensuring much better blood flow throughout the body. Interestingly, Nitric Oxide doesn't usually work through a direct hit; instead, it triggers a complex cascade of chemical reactions within the cells themselves to achieve its effect.

Nitric Oxide plays a vital role when it comes to sexual performance. During an erection, it triggers what is known as cGMP. Essentially, Nitric Oxide works by boosting the concentration of this substance, whereas Viagra functions by preventing its breakdown. This cGMP then acts to relax the blood vessels, allowing for increased blood flow into the spongy tissue.


casualnomad42, just to clarify—Viagra actually came about as a byproduct of research into Nitric Oxide, which is something I’ve mentioned before. Don't feel like you've just discovered something brand new. 😁
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#40 ·
It’s honestly wild... how incredibly persistent these snake oil salesmen can be.
..so now that he (we all know who) has gone ahead and listed every single supposed miracle benefit of this product—trying his absolute best to make it sound all scientific and legit—I took a quick little peek at the ingredients in this "magic powder," and I noticed the recommended serving size packs in
1333% DV of Vitamin E.
Just a little heads-up regarding those extra doses of Vitamin E... just throwing it out there... 😛 😛 😛:

So, what's the plan now?!! ... (I was actually thinking about buying 40 pounds of this dust since I was planning on living to be 137, but now I'm getting a little nervous!!)

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