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no more Heart Disease: How Nitric Oxide Can Prevent -- Even revers -- Heart Disease and Stroke

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granitegull3 granitegull3 Member
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#41 ·
That is an interesting perspective, though from where I sit, the reasoning seems somewhat "scattered"—there are quite a few gaps in logic and several points of misunderstanding throughout. (No hard feelings intended, of course.)

To begin with, those claims only address the intake of Vitamin E. There isn’t even a mention of the other essential vitamins that are just as vital to our health. Because of that omission, it is quite difficult to support the conclusion being drawn here. Honestly, we see these kinds of similar "discoveries" popping up all the time. 🙂 😁

Moving forward, following your lead by citing one liquid-based page, I shall respond by providing yet another: Research indicates that supplemental Vitamin E offers no real benefit for heart health.

There are two claims presented on this page that I find quite compelling:
Vitamin E. From food. It is considered an antioxidant, and there is a prevailing belief that it assists in preventing cholesterol buildup within the arteries, according to Rachel Eidelman, who leads research efforts at the Agatson research center in Miami Beach.
Vitamin E. As a dietary supplement. It simply doesn't offer that level of protection.

These claims align perfectly with what I find myself constantly reiterating: mainstream medicine tends to view "dietary supplements" merely as a collection of vitamins synthesized in pharmaceutical laboratories. We are talking about artificial vitamins that a living plant wouldn't even recognize. It brings me back to my own long-standing argument—that the way a natural vitamin interacts with a cell is fundamentally different from how an artificial one does. 😉 🙂

It might be worth digging a little deeper into those other topics regarding Vitamin E found on that same page, such as:
- The role of Vitamin E in managing the common cold is a subject that warrants a rather meticulous examination. While many turn to quick fixes when they feel a chill setting in, the biochemical impact of certain antioxidants deserves a more measured look. From what I have gathered through my own reading and observations, there is a legitimate interest in how this specific nutrient supports the immune system's response during those initial stages of illness. It isn't merely about suppressing symptoms, but rather about providing the body with the necessary tools to maintain its internal equilibrium. Of course, one should always approach supplementation with a sense of deliberation rather than haste.
- It appears that there is compelling evidence suggesting that Vitamin E may play a role in reducing the risk of developing diabetes.
- There is some intriguing research suggesting that Vitamin E might actually play a role in restoring hearing.
- There appears to be some compelling evidence suggesting that Vitamin E supplementation may play a role in reducing the risk of bladder cancer. While research in this area is ongoing, current data indicates that certain antioxidants could provide a protective effect against the cellular damage that leads to such malignancies.
- It has often been suggested that Vitamin E can be quite beneficial for the elderly.
- It appears that Vitamin E may play a role in alleviating muscle soreness following physical exertion.

Ultimately, Vitamin E is an absolute necessity and highly recommended for anyone looking to maintain their health. Once you truly grasp how antioxidants interact with free radicals—and realize just how vital they are for protecting your cells from damage—these various articles and discussions will start to make perfect sense to you. It all becomes quite logical once that connection clicks.

Ultimately, we aren't just talking about the isolated intake of Vitamin E here. It is really about how it interacts with a specific combination of other nutrients to create that synergistic effect I’ve previously outlined in this thread. Once you truly accept the fundamental reality that there is a profound difference between natural vitamins and their synthetic counterparts—specifically regarding how they actually interact with living cells—I believe one's overall understanding of this entire subject will reach a much higher level of clarity. 😉 🙂

It is truly incredible... just how relentless these purveyors of smoke and mirrors can be.
So, where does that leave us now? I was actually just about to pull the trigger on an 18kg bag of this powder—mostly because I had high hopes of coasting my way to a solid 137 years old—but now, honestly, I’m starting to feel a little hesitant.


"It’s easier to split an atom than to break a prejudice." — Albert Einstein 😉 👍

In my estimation, those who peddle nothing but illusions belong to an entirely different breed of people than what you’re suggesting. 🙂 😁

ps: That figure you mentioned (1333% DV**) actually comes with a little catch—that double asterisk (**). Here’s how it’s interpreted: ** Percent Daily values are based on a 2,000-calorie diet ... I'll leave it to you to figure out what that implies.
granitegull3 granitegull3 Member
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#42 ·
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Bryan Murphy84 Bryan Murphy84 Member
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joined Apr 2004
#43 ·
granitegull3 said:These claims align perfectly with what I’m always saying: mainstream medicine treats "supplements" mostly as vitamins cooked up in big pharmaceutical labs. We're talking about synthetic versions that a real plant wouldn't even recognize. It goes back to my point that a natural vitamin and a lab-made one just don't hit the cells the same way. 😉 🙂

🙂

A supplement is also that vitamin you claim was extracted from a plant and tossed into whatever you're taking... 😁

I told you I wasn't going to keep popping into your threads once I realized we already know each other, but man, you are exhausting. No hard feelings though... 😉
granitegull3 granitegull3 Member
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#44 ·
Elizabeth Perez57 said:🙂

A supplement or dietary additive is basically just that vitamin you worked so hard to extract from a plant and put into whatever product you're dealing with. 😁

Yes, I am fully aware that supplements consist of vitamins; my point was specifically that there is a distinct difference between Herbalife and, say, standard vitamins from a brand like Walgreens... 🙂

My statement was actually intended to go in the other direction—if you could please re-read it and pay close attention to my use of the word mostly. 😉

For those who don't believe that Herbalife vitamins, as part of cellular nutrition, act differently than vitamins found in fruit and vegetables—you're actually right. They work even better because they are provided in higher concentrations and are balanced in much more perfect proportions. And since they truly are derived from plants, they have an even more potent effect on the cells themselves. 🙂 👍
jadesailor14 jadesailor14 Regular
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#45 ·
granitegull3 said:Yeah, I get that supplements are just vitamins, but my point is there's a real difference between Herbalife and, say, standard drugstore vitamins...🙂

Actually, I was saying the opposite—if you re-read what I wrote, you'll notice I used the word mostly. 😉

If people don't believe that Herbalife vitamins act differently than vitamins from fruits and veggies because they're part of cellular nutrition, they're actually right! They work even better because they come in higher concentrations and have much more perfect ratios. Plus, since they're truly plant-derived, they hit those cells even harder.🙂 👍

1. How can you be so sure Herbalife vitamins come from some organic plant grown in a random field?

2. What makes you think the origin of Herbalife vitamins is different from standard drugstore brands?

3. Are you trying to say Herbalife vitamins are superior? On what grounds?
dustycanyon6 dustycanyon6 Active Member
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joined Dec 2005
#46 ·
jadesailor14 said:How do you even know that the HL vitamins come from some plant grown on a random meadow? Like, how can you be sure they're actually organic...

Where exactly did you hear that the vitamins from Pliva and those from Herbalife come from different sources?...

So, you're asking if the Herbalife vitamins are actually better? Like, what's the actual deal with that...

Don't even bother trying. There aren't any real answers to those questions, but I'm pretty sure he'll just try to spin some nonsense... He thinks he "knows" it all because that's exactly how it's laid out on the HL website, in all the HL promotional stuff, and even printed right on the HL products themselves. You really need something more substantial than that? 😁 😉
frozenlynx33 frozenlynx33 Newcomer
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#47 ·
The book "no more Heart Disease : How Nitric Oxide Can Prevent -- Even revers -- Heart Disease and Stroke" by Nobel Prize winner Louis Ignarro has been released through SCiG under the title "no more Heart Disease"—and the launch was officially backed by the "Ministry of Health," the "Institute for Health Protection," the "Cardiology Section of the American Medical Society," and the "Association of Cardiologists of America"...

I honestly don't know what kind of people we are here in America—or where exactly we live—that topics this critical simply don't deserve any real attention, or why our own Ministry of Health doesn't seem to grasp where the actual crisis lies.

Does it even matter that 53% of Americans succumb to heart attacks and strokes? Does anyone actually care? Is anyone out there searching for ways to escape that high-risk bracket (or maybe they’ve already found them)... or is it just easier to sit around whining, dragging others down, and waiting for someone to eventually "pay the price" for their own stupidity—and everyone else's, too? 😕 🤔

From what I can see around here, casualnomad42 tried to bring this up, only to run straight into the wall of resistance built by the "know-it-all clan"—and the end result of all that drama is 🙂

Bravo, really!!! 👎

"Across seven mountains and seven seas, seven deserts and seven peaks, seven oceans, seven meadows and seven canyons, seven forests, seven hills and seven valleys, seven plains, seven pastures, and seven rivers, lives a single dragon.
Wake up one morning and think to yourself: 'Good grief, where on earth am I living?!'.
"
Jamie Clark74 Jamie Clark74 Regular
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#48 ·

From what I can tell, casualnomad42 tried to bring this up, but he ran straight into a wall of resistance from the "know-it-all clique." All that effort resulted in 🙂

Major props !!! 👎

"Across seven mountains and seven seas, seven deserts and seven peaks, seven oceans, seven meadows and seven canyons, seven forests, seven hills and seven valleys, seven plains, seven pastures, and seven rivers, a single dragon dwells.
Wake up one morning and realize: 'Good grief, where on earth am I living!'
"

Lost! 😁 😉
George Bailey2 George Bailey2 Member
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#49 ·
In my humble opinion, Nitric Oxide supplementation is absolutely worth looking into, whether you're an athlete trying to level up or someone dealing with heart and cardiovascular issues. From what I’ve observed, NO really does the job. That said, we have to remember this is just a supplement—the kind of thing that 99% of doctors will never even consider. It's the same deal with alpha-lipoic acid or N-acetyl cysteine; these are supplements that definitely work against a wide spectrum of diseases and disorders, yet they get ignored. I realize all of this costs money, just as it would cost the government to provide these supplements as actual medication, and it's expensive for patients too. Everything can be pricey, sure, but investing in your health is never a waste.
frozenlynx33 frozenlynx33 Newcomer
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#50 ·
George Bailey2 said:I get it—everything has a price tag. It costs the government money to provide supplements as medicine, and it costs patients a fortune too. Sure, everything can be expensive, but you can never put a price on health or investing in your own well-being.

Money can't really put a value on health—certainly not on the value of a human life—but let’s be honest: we rarely appreciate things that don't cost us anything.
It's the same logic with clothes, cars, or a house... but when we talk about health, it becomes this abstract, slippery concept, and suddenly everyone starts playing philosopher. My philosophy? Our own body is the only place we actually live 24/7 for our entire lives. If we don't show some basic respect to ourselves—and to that simple fact—then honestly, there's no point in feeling sorry for us.

Take smokers, for example. Everyone has the right to make their own choices, but they sleep a little better at night knowing they’re making an informed decision based on all the options available to them.

The real issue is that most people don't even realize what choices they actually have. They don't know how to prevent certain issues from arising, or if those problems do hit, they have no clue how to fix them.

Believe me, I've seen some pretty grim situations where people were forced to sell their houses just to afford medication to stay alive... yet, when something comes for free, people act like they don't care at all.

But then again, people often lack respect for others, too. Everyone thinks their own struggle is the center of the universe and ignores everyone else—you can see it right here with "Jamie Clark74"... acting like he's a genius who knows "everything about every disease," yet somehow he still seems to be dealing with all those exact same ailments despite his supposed expertise.😢
frozenlynx33 frozenlynx33 Newcomer
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#51 ·
The WHO thinks we’re staring down a literal "epidemic" of chronic illnesses

"Developing nations actually have a fighting chance against this 'global epidemic' of chronic diseases—if they just implement some low-cost strategies that have already helped wealthy countries slash heart disease deaths by a staggering 70 percent," according to a report released by the World Health Organization (WHO) this past Wednesday. ...."
frozenlynx33 frozenlynx33 Newcomer
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#52 ·
frozenlynx33 said:So, Dr. Louis Ignarro’s book "No more heart disease" was released here in the States under the title "No more heart disease"—and get this—the whole launch was backed by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the American Heart Association, and even the European Society of Cardiology...

Well, since I couldn't track down the local version, I figured I'd just grab this one instead—I managed to snag a copy, and honestly? It’s absolutely phenomenal. 👍

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