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Can't sleep? Anyone else struggling with insomnia?

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Participants Jessica Patel92Richard Thompson33graniteangler10Adriftingowl27Jessica Nguyen85Taylor Cruz7Michelle Howard2northernseal6Charles Sanchez6ruggedangler24Edward Patel81restlessbear8ruggedjackal46Rebecca Taylor57Anthony Kim18brightcobra91
Jessica Patel92 Jessica Patel92 NewcomerOP
2 messages
joined Dec 2002
#1 ·
Anyone seen it yet?
Is it actually worth grabbing a ticket and hitting the theater?
Richard Thompson33 Richard Thompson33 Active Member
58 messages
joined May 2004
#2 ·
it feels a bit sluggish to me
it isn't bad, just a little slow for my taste

I can't really say if it's worth hitting the theater for, since I pretty much watch everything on the big screen regardless... I don't really pick and choose that much

I have a feeling Al Pacino fans would absolutely love this one
graniteangler10 graniteangler10 Member
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joined Dec 2002
#3 ·
Megan Rodriguez44 said:I bet Al Pacino fans would swear by him.

😁 😁 😁 😉

Nice... proves Christopher Nolan isn't just some one-hit wonder.
A Anonymous Veteran
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joined May 2005
#4 ·
Christopher Nolan actually knows how to handle "regular" movies too... and honestly, it's totally worth it.
Richard Thompson33 Richard Thompson33 Active Member
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joined May 2004
#5 ·
I honestly think his fans would give him a huge thumbs up
😁 😁 😁 😉

Actually, scratch that, just my bad luck😁
It keeps happening to me...🙄
We're talking about Al Pacino here, after all
(though it doesn't really matter 😉)
driftingowl27 driftingowl27 Active Member
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joined Dec 2002
#6 ·
This movie is a total disaster. Hillary Swank is just flailing around aimlessly, playing some mindless young party girl with zero depth or actual connection to anything happening on screen.
It really wouldn't hurt if she didn't have to carry the entire dramatic weight of the film on her shoulders, only to end up looking like the smartest, most saintly person in the room at the very end...👎
A Anonymous Veteran
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#7 ·
Mickey, I have to disagree with you on this one 🙂
driftingowl27 driftingowl27 Active Member
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joined Dec 2002
#8 ·
Well, then just spit it out and tell me what you actually think 🙂
It didn't take very long at all for the slaughter to start in the movie 🙂
Jessica Nguyen85 Jessica Nguyen85 Active Member
162 messages
joined Jul 2003
#9 ·
It’s a solid piece of work, honestly, especially considering how heavy the script is. Al Pacino is just incredible here. That heavy, depressing atmosphere and the way the camera moves... it really forces you into this painful emotional space with him, questioning why he’d ever pull a trigger on his own partner and friend. You find yourself wondering if any of it makes sense at all. It reminds me a bit of "Witness" starring Gerald Ford, but instead, we’re diving deep into the headspace of a "dirty cop." I guess that’s just an eternal theme in American cinema, isn't it? And from what I know, very few films actually bother to explore the conscience of a "bad cop" character. Al Pacino plays him as someone who is supposedly "on the edge," but it feels like he actually crossed that line at some point.

There was this interesting question in an interview with Christopher Nolan in The New York Times that seems to tie perfectly into Al Pacino's character:

GA: Your protagonists are people trying to stay in control when they're not, they're actually losing it.

CN: Yes, to me that's one of the most compelling fears in film noir and the psychological thriller genre - that fear of conspiracy. It's definitely something that I have a fear of - not being in control of your own life. I think that's something people can relate to, and those genres are most successful when they derive the material from genuine fears that people have. When those fears are extrapolated and taken into melodrama so that they take on a less threatening quality and you can enjoy them as entertainment, but they still speak directly to things that are inside you.
driftingowl27 driftingowl27 Active Member
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joined Dec 2002
#10 ·
Gerald Barrett25, look, I’m not disagreeing with any of that, but what on earth is that poor Hillary Swank even doing in this movie? I mean, come on. It’s clearly supposed to be a psychological thriller, which means the characters need actual depth—you know, distinct profiles—so their issues actually feel believable. This girl? She hasn't got a damn clue about profiling.
Jessica Nguyen85 Jessica Nguyen85 Active Member
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joined Jul 2003
#11 ·
but what is that poor Hillary Swank actually doing in this movie?

well then ... personally, I think her character serves a purely structural purpose, just to keep the plot moving along and act as some kind of benchmark, though I'll admit she isn't particularly well-developed or fleshed out. She's a supporting player, really. Her role, much like in most films, is just to provide a sense of closure at the end... something like that 🙂
Taylor Cruz7 Taylor Cruz7 Member
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joined Dec 2002
#12 ·
Hillary is just... well... The movie isn't a total disaster, but it certainly isn't a masterpiece either.
Taylor Cruz7 Taylor Cruz7 Member
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joined Dec 2002
#13 ·
driftingowl27 said:This profiling thing doesn't have any damn sense at all...

But it certainly has plenty of attitude! 🙂😈
A Anonymous Veteran
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#14 ·
I don't think Hillary was actually bad... what really gets to me is that cliché Al Pacino has leaned into so hard... you know, that exhausted, cynical cop with a murky past and a totally conflicted moral compass...🙄 I mean, he’s still a fantastic actor, but we've seen that specific persona played out way too many times before...

By the way, this "white" noir version didn't disappoint at all compared to the original movie...
Michelle Howard2 Michelle Howard2 Member
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joined Dec 2002
#15 ·
I was actually at the theater just yesterday thinking about starting a thread here, but then I see this whole discussion is already heating up. Unlike Memento, which my buddy completely ruined for me by hyping it up way too much, Taylor Cruz7 told me this one was a dud and that I should only bother if I’m a die-hard Al Pacino fan.

So, I head in there with basically zero expectations, and man, what a ride. It was seriously great. I was hooked from the very first minute. Finally, we get a smart crime thriller that actually treats the audience like they have a functioning brain. It’s almost Hitchcockian in its precision, plus you’ve got this heavy moral dilemma playing out against the surreal backdrop of Alaska, where that eternal daylight just hangs there. It’s a totally different vibe of life in the North.
What I really got out of it—which is something I rarely find when I hit the cinema these days—was that feeling of being completely gripped by a movie, knowing I'm in competent hands and being able to just sit back and let the story take over.

I have to admit, though, my movie buddy drifted off, and I actually had to nudge him awake during the best parts. And hey, like the G. B. show says, sleeping through a movie is a form of criticism, but in this case, I'm pretty sure he was just exhausted.
Taylor Cruz7 Taylor Cruz7 Member
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joined Dec 2002
#16 ·
From here on out, I’ve decided I’m going to tell you that any movie you haven't seen yet is just plain bad....😠 😁
driftingowl27 driftingowl27 Active Member
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joined Dec 2002
#17 ·
Taylor Cruz7 said:But hey, they’ve still got the... uh, assets!

I mean, look at Sylvia Saint or Adriana Sage—they definitely have them. 🙂
The only real tragedy is that Al Pacino isn't starring in their movies. 🙄 🙂 😁
northernseal6 northernseal6 Member
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joined Apr 2012
#18 ·
You guys are probably going to hate me for this, but Insomnia was such a letdown. It felt like a total retread, nothing like Memento, and it’s like Nolan completely changed his entire style since he first arrived in Hollywood. R.W. Williams was pretty mediocre, Hillary Swank was good, and even the hotel receptionist was decent, but Al Pacino? He’s just not it anymore. The Godfather, Dog Day Afternoon, and Scarface were all masterpieces, but lately, it feels like he’s just playing himself in every single role. Maybe it’s better to say he’s just lost his touch. I don't know. I'm just disappointed.
A Anonymous Veteran
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#19 ·
Carl Bennett78 said:I have to admit, my movie buddy totally drifted off, so I had to keep shaking them awake during all the best parts.

"Movie buddy"?! "MOVIE BUDDY"!!?!?!🙏

Anyway, I caught a glimpse of some people earlier and, honestly, it didn't really hit the mark for me—it definitely wasn't the life-changing experience everyone made it out to be.👋
Charles Sanchez6 Charles Sanchez6 Newcomer
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joined Jan 2003
#20 ·
The film was alright, I suppose, but if I’m being honest, I think it only worked because of the heavy hitters in the cast. If they had filled those roles with some unknown actors or even just mid-tier talent, the whole thing would have felt incredibly dull and forgettable.

I actually spent most of the runtime wondering if R. Williams was even going to show up at all—it felt like we were waiting forever for his entrance! But once he finally graced the screen, the movie suddenly gained enough momentum to be worth watching. At the end of the day, the chemistry between him and Pacino is easily the highlight of the production, regardless of how much the script might let you down. 😁

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