2013 British Grand Prix at Indianapolis (June 30th)

steelmaker83 said:Vettel’s complaining about the cold, claiming there's zero grip...

Tomorrow, it’s going to be Mercedes and Red Bull fighting for the win, while Fernando settles for somewhere around 5th or 6th. I’m starting to worry that if we're looking at the championship standings, Fernando is already out of the running. It was obvious that the whole tire circus at the start played right into Lotus and Ferrari's hands, but now the momentum has completely shifted.

I honestly get the feeling more and more drivers are just going to walk away from Formula 1 because of Goodyear, Bernie Ecclestone, and all that nonsense...

Call me crazy, but I feel like that's exactly why Michael Schumacher and Mark Webber left.
At the end of the day, both of them were pretty loud and clear about hating this artificial circus of tires, DRS, KERS, and all these gimmicks that basically kill actual racing...
What we end up with is a bunch of sudden performance swings, piles of overtakes, and "unpredictable" races (which is just code for chaotic), but when you look back at the full season, you might find maybe ten actual, legitimate duels or passes. Everything else feels less like racing and more like what Webber called "American wrestling"🙄

Man, just recently everyone was practically passing out from the sheer adrenaline caused by all that suspense...

Nancy Scott5 said:Pastor Maldonado got slapped with a penalty for being too slow

Grrrrr. And now Kimi Räikkönen is forced to launch from the dirty part of the track.

Nancy Scott5 said:Pastor Maldonado got slapped with a penalty for being too slow

Pure nonsense.☕
What does following the rulebook even have to do with this? They could've just slapped him with a testing ban during the young driver tests instead of going this route. This is overkill.☕

stormybadger8 said:I honestly get the feeling more and more drivers are just going to walk away from Formula 1 because of Goodyear, Bernie Ecclestone, and all that nonsense...

Call me crazy, but I feel like that's exactly why Michael Schumacher and Mark Webber left.
At the end of the day, both of them were pretty loud and clear about hating this artificial circus of tires, DRS, KERS, and all these gimmicks that basically kill actual racing...
What we end up with is a bunch of sudden performance swings, piles of overtakes, and "unpredictable" races (which is just code for chaotic), but when you look back at the full season, you might find maybe ten actual, legitimate duels or passes. Everything else feels less like racing and more like what Webber called "American wrestling"🙄

hehe 😁

Where did he actually say that? I missed it.

I’ve sort of picked up the impression that messages are being sent from his camp telling everyone to let this blow over quietly and just leave him alone.
I caught a bit of an interview on BBC during FP3, or right before qualifying, with his old man (super likable guy, by the way), and he only said a few brief sentences. He wouldn't say a single word about Red Bull, not even when they asked a suggestive question... just that Mark was getting a bit of the "rough treatment" at Red Bull, blah blah blah. His dad just went, "Nooo," insisting everything was fine, though he did emphasize that Mark always worked incredibly well with Newey and Dietrich.

By the way, Mark mentioned something about staying on in some kind of collaborative role with Red Bull.🤷

And yeah, I’ve mentioned before how tight-lipped those Germans can be when it comes to Mark (just think back to Monaco 😁), but my sources wrote that he actually had offers coming in from several different Formula 1 teams.
Does anyone know the real story? All I know is there was interest from the red cars, nothing else.🤷

Look, I have to be honest 🙏🙏🙏

and one guy, specifically 🙏 is just a total hack who 🙂🙏

Jerry Rogers6 said:Look, I have to be honest 🙏🙏🙏

and one guy, specifically 🙏 is just a total hack who 🙂🙏

As for me, I am forced to acknowledge Ferrari for delivering some of their best qualifying performances to date, right at the very moment the championship begins to fracture.🙏

I found myself unable to sleep from the sheer anticipation of finally witnessing Ferrari sitting on the front row.

While a touch of sarcasm is certainly healthy, am I not reaching a point where I am seriously contemplating walking away from Ferrari forever to support other teams?

While everyone else is putting in the grueling work, the Italians seem content to lounge by beaches and pools alongside their boss, while the rest of the field breaks a sweat.

Is it any wonder we find ourselves in this position? Perhaps in the future, we should simply be satisfied if Ferrari manages to place a single car within the top eight to ten spots on the grid.☕

Brian Campbell36 said:As for me, I am forced to acknowledge Ferrari for delivering some of their best qualifying performances to date, right at the very moment the championship begins to fracture.🙏

I found myself unable to sleep from the sheer anticipation of finally witnessing Ferrari sitting on the front row.

While a touch of sarcasm is certainly healthy, am I not reaching a point where I am seriously contemplating walking away from Ferrari forever to support other teams?

While everyone else is putting in the grueling work, the Italians seem content to lounge by beaches and pools alongside their boss, while the rest of the field breaks a sweat.

Is it any wonder we find ourselves in this position? Perhaps in the future, we should simply be satisfied if Ferrari manages to place a single car within the top eight to ten spots on the grid.☕

you've got McLaren 🤣🤣🤣

stormybadger8 said:I honestly get the feeling more and more drivers are just going to walk away from Formula 1 because of Goodyear, Bernie Ecclestone, and all that nonsense...

Call me crazy, but I feel like that's exactly why Michael Schumacher and Mark Webber left.
At the end of the day, both of them were pretty loud and clear about hating this artificial circus of tires, DRS, KERS, and all these gimmicks that basically kill actual racing...
What we end up with is a bunch of sudden performance swings, piles of overtakes, and "unpredictable" races (which is just code for chaotic), but when you look back at the full season, you might find maybe ten actual, legitimate duels or passes. Everything else feels less like racing and more like what Webber called "American wrestling"🙄

It won't happen. Regardless of anything, Formula 1 will always be the pinnacle of motorsports. This is where the massive money flows, and naturally, that's where drivers can earn the most, whether directly or indirectly.

Besides, there have always been backroom deals happening here. They've gone a step or two too far lately, sure, but the model still works. As for the hardcore fans, they make up a tiny percentage of the total viewership. Whatever we vent about on forums doesn't actually impact their entire business operation.

It’s shaping up to be a fantastic race in Silverstone; there are just so many different strategic variables at play.

Do you think Fernando Alonso and Felipe Massa can actually fight their way into some decent points, or maybe even snatch a podium spot?
Will the Mečkin duo fade away as the laps tick down, or will they actually stay in the hunt for the win?
And what about Mark Webber and Sebastian Vettel? Two old friends—will they treat us to another one of those legendary, gritty battles on the track?
Daniel Ricciardo looks like he's smiling at the prospect of a career-defining result; is a podium really within his reach?
Pastor Maldonado is starting from the very back, so is there any hope for him to scrape some points?
Is Lotus truly tapped out, or do they still have a bit of bite left in them?
Can McLaren and Williams step up and make us proud on home soil?


The momentum seems to be shifting in favor of Ferrari and Lotus.

this is round, and honestly—you should probably just tuck this away in a little treasure chest right next to that old heirloom Grandpa brought back from Monaco

stormybadger8 said:I honestly get the feeling more and more drivers are just going to walk away from Formula 1 because of Goodyear, Bernie Ecclestone, and all that nonsense...

Call me crazy, but I feel like that's exactly why Michael Schumacher and Mark Webber left.
At the end of the day, both of them were pretty loud and clear about hating this artificial circus of tires, DRS, KERS, and all these gimmicks that basically kill actual racing...
What we end up with is a bunch of sudden performance swings, piles of overtakes, and "unpredictable" races (which is just code for chaotic), but when you look back at the full season, you might find maybe ten actual, legitimate duels or passes. Everything else feels less like racing and more like what Webber called "American wrestling"🙄

For sure. Especially since this link kind of proves the point: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...orts_contracts

By the way, considering how much they paid that guy in the number 14 car, he didn't exactly impress anyone either...

stormybadger8 said:I honestly get the feeling more and more drivers are just going to walk away from Formula 1 because of Goodyear, Bernie Ecclestone, and all that nonsense...

Call me crazy, but I feel like that's exactly why Michael Schumacher and Mark Webber left.
At the end of the day, both of them were pretty loud and clear about hating this artificial circus of tires, DRS, KERS, and all these gimmicks that basically kill actual racing...
What we end up with is a bunch of sudden performance swings, piles of overtakes, and "unpredictable" races (which is just code for chaotic), but when you look back at the full season, you might find maybe ten actual, legitimate duels or passes. Everything else feels less like racing and more like what Webber called "American wrestling"🙄

Personally, I think it was just age for those two.

graniteharbor502 said:Grrrrr. And now Kimi Räikkönen is forced to launch from the dirty part of the track.

And Fernando Alonso is just out there racing. 😬

stormybadger8 said:I honestly get the feeling more and more drivers are just going to walk away from Formula 1 because of Goodyear, Bernie Ecclestone, and all that nonsense...

Call me crazy, but I feel like that's exactly why Michael Schumacher and Mark Webber left.
At the end of the day, both of them were pretty loud and clear about hating this artificial circus of tires, DRS, KERS, and all these gimmicks that basically kill actual racing...
What we end up with is a bunch of sudden performance swings, piles of overtakes, and "unpredictable" races (which is just code for chaotic), but when you look back at the full season, you might find maybe ten actual, legitimate duels or passes. Everything else feels less like racing and more like what Webber called "American wrestling"🙄

To be honest, TBF bit us again.

Olivia Martin12 said:Cultists glued to their screens... lock this thread down before the flood hits 🙂 🙂 🙂

Tomorrow will be more of the same—absolute perfection, I suppose—where everyone starts singing praises to whoever manages to scrape into 4th or 5th place ☕

😂🤣😂🤣

It won't be long before these fanatics are completely checked out. 😍

Drew Bennett68 said:It’s shaping up to be a fantastic race in Silverstone; there are just so many different strategic variables at play.

Do you think Fernando Alonso and Felipe Massa can actually fight their way into some decent points, or maybe even snatch a podium spot?
Will the Mečkin duo fade away as the laps tick down, or will they actually stay in the hunt for the win?
And what about Mark Webber and Sebastian Vettel? Two old friends—will they treat us to another one of those legendary, gritty battles on the track?
Daniel Ricciardo looks like he's smiling at the prospect of a career-defining result; is a podium really within his reach?
Pastor Maldonado is starting from the very back, so is there any hope for him to scrape some points?
Is Lotus truly tapped out, or do they still have a bit of bite left in them?
Can McLaren and Williams step up and make us proud on home soil?


The momentum seems to be shifting in favor of Ferrari and Lotus.

Personally, I don't find Ferrari's pace promising at all. It definitely works in Pastor Maldonado's favor, because I honestly doubt Fernando could catch him through pure pace during the race.🤷
Hebga, you can't be blind to the fact that Ferrari was struggling in the high-speed corners yesterday. Felipe Massa had to lift off the throttle in Copse because he couldn't take it flat-out, which is exactly what Nico Rosberg, Lewis Hamilton, and the others were doing consistently ahead of him. Just by lifting like that in that one corner, you lose two or three tenths.
Even Pastor Maldonado mentioned after qualifying that he expects a good race since this track suits them. It’s a shame for him.

Lewis Hamilton mentioned they’ve made some progress with tire durability, but they're still struggling with wear on the left side here.

As for Lotus, I'll wait until the end of the race to judge, but everything feels like it's following the same pattern as last year before Korea: constant improvement, improvement, and then nothing.

Hey, does anyone happen to have a link for a decent HD stream? Maybe something from BBC or Sky?

Are these guys seriously running a studio out of someone's basement?! What on earth is this sound quality?! 🙄

What on earth is going on with the Creator's stream?

🤣🤣🤣

Total amateur hour. 🙏

Is their photography always this much of a disaster?