Where's the movie?

Patrick Martin said:Sides? Man, I'm not taking any damn sides. I'm just laying out my perspective and trying to stay as objective as possible. I'm not rooting for anyone. Honestly, that whole client-based, clique-heavy approach some people are pushing right now is exactly what caused this mess on Reddit in the first place.
I've always kept my distance from the mods, and I'm keeping it that way. I don't want to play nice with the other users either, because if life has taught me anything, it's that you gotta avoid that too—especially on "public" platforms like this.
In a way, Murmillo and Bloomer became victims of that exact mindset; they basically boxed themselves in. You can't go around picking fights with the entire moderation team just to be stubborn, man. I'm still saying it: when you're dealing with sensitive topics, you have to be strict.
And it blows my mind how supposedly smart people can't grasp that this is a public forum, not some private group chat for a few buddies.
Look, I'll be the first to sign off on their "liberation," BUT only if they fix that one problematic section. (I really don't have the energy right now to explain the full timeline to people who weren't there, and that history goes way back into the archives of this Reddit community—I've been lurking here for about 2 years now).
What, should everyone start stigmatizing briskhound2 just because he's sticking to certain principles that, if you look at the big picture, are totally fine? At the end of the day, he's just a regular user and he's gonna keep posting on this forum regardless.

It would be best if I sat down and explained the whole timeline to every single one of you individually, depending on how much of a joke I feel like making of you.
I mean, I've been punished for way more minor stuff than this.
Buddy, don't go there. ☕

But this really is a private mess. 🤷 If it weren't, the partial restructuring would actually follow the rules. Of course, that would reveal there's no reason for a partial split, but plenty of reason to replace the current admin structure—since they acted entirely on their own whims, without transparency, without good intentions, and most importantly, while breaking their own rules.

I'm not changing my ways because I don't even know what behavior of mine is supposedly "problematic." Do you really want to be known as the guy constantly making excuses for the current administration?

Henry Campbell5 said:But this really is a private mess. 🤷 If it weren't, the partial restructuring would actually follow the rules. Of course, that would reveal there's no reason for a partial split, but plenty of reason to replace the current admin structure—since they acted entirely on their own whims, without transparency, without good intentions, and most importantly, while breaking their own rules.

I'm not changing my ways because I don't even know what behavior of mine is supposedly "problematic." Do you really want to be known as the guy constantly making excuses for the current administration?

look, I don't have eyes on every single email or DM flying back and forth between the mods and Murmillo or you personally. I'm sure there were lapses somewhere. whether they were intentional or just sloppy, I don't know, but I'll give you credit there—it's definitely not okay. there's probably more going on behind the scenes too.
we just need to sit tight and keep a cool head for a bit. I get that you guys are in a tight spot, but this needs to be settled properly so everyone can move on satisfied.
everyone deserves some consideration here.
the mod team is a little slow and sluggish, honestly, but even so, I still don't have massive complaints about them. the real issue is this mess unfolding between you two; I just hope there's enough grit and willpower to find the most constructive way out of this.

Henry Campbell5 said:But this really is a private mess. 🤷 If it weren't, the partial restructuring would actually follow the rules. Of course, that would reveal there's no reason for a partial split, but plenty of reason to replace the current admin structure—since they acted entirely on their own whims, without transparency, without good intentions, and most importantly, while breaking their own rules.

I'm not changing my ways because I don't even know what behavior of mine is supposedly "problematic." Do you really want to be known as the guy constantly making excuses for the current administration?

nah, no, my main goal is just getting this situation resolved ASAP so everyone's happy. hey, if you think I'm just getting in the way, I can easily step aside.🤷

besides, there are movies waiting for us, and man, there are more movies than hot dogs at a July 4th cookout...

quietdriver3 said:There’s also this other small detail, I suppose. Trying to tear down a sub-forum by just picking at people isn't really a way to settle the score over some injustice.

I mean, announcing a plan to stir the pot definitely doesn't count as making a constructive contribution.

raiding the sub-forum🙂

so what's the alternative? just get deleted and take it like a man? 🙂

quietdriver3 said:Maybe try denying the fact that you don't actually have a single troll card on this thread.

Go ahead, find something your expert moderator eyes actually deem worthy of a card.

Henry Campbell5 said:Look at this guy. You’re seriously acting like you're God's gift to humanity. You show up to the main PDF once a year and then act like you aren't just as guilty as Smoogj. Just because briskhound2 is a veteran doesn't mean you're off the hook...

By the way, if I were in charge, I'd hand you a lifetime ban for trolling this hard immediately.

Listen, buddy,

I'm not letting this slide because it's flat-out false. It's just some nonsense that's gained traction despite having zero basis in reality.

Don't be a coward and start throwing out baseless accusations just for the sake of it.🙂

Lisa Hernandez3 said:I guess you’re talking about how he acted after being treated unfairly, so I really hope you’ve also looked at the actual injustice itself—the nature of it and the mess it caused, which honestly spreads way beyond just this one situation, affecting everyone else and the rest of the subreddits too.

Maybe I’ll draw a parallel to that other thread about moderation.

The obvious reason he started feeling like things were "unfair" was when a single smiley face post got wiped from the chat. That was the specific moment his faith in the mods just... broke.

As for the underlying stuff... I don't know what that is, but I’m pretty sure it involves some kind of breakfast casserole.

@ nica, please, for the love of God, stop deleting my posts just because they're simple 🙂

thanks.

over & out

Started with a smiley and ended with a partial credit 🤣

Timothy Davis59 said:Started with a smiley and ended with a partial credit 🤣

🤣🤣😂

Ajuto 👎 We all know why you’re siding with the moderators. Some users on Reddit mocked your writing style, and you have a long memory... now you're just getting even.

quietdriver3 said:Henry Campbell5 says he’s planning to start "stirring the pot" and being provocative, basically giving a moderator an ultimatum.

I don't think that's really what constructive participation in a PDF movie community looks like.

So, does that mean it’s fine to just slap him with a ban without warning, ignoring years of contributions and labeling him a "constant provocateur" after what feels like only a week? Is there really no other way to handle their little dispute?

Jason Clark7 said:
In other words, the mantra we are using to defend this administration is simple: be a man—be someone who doesn't care about being flawless... 😵 Good heavens, is this truly the best anyone can come up with... 🤦

You should have added a few more facepalms there. 🙂

It’s interesting how you people interpret things. I never told anyone to shut up, bow down to the moderators, or just take it. No. I said—and Henry Campbell5 should get that—that you eat the crap you pooped out, serve your DESERVED punishment, and then come back to post later. How he chooses to write after that is his business.

Since I hold a different view than Henry Campbell5—because I believe both him and Murmillo bear more responsibility for all the stupid situations currently happening on the Movie forum—I guess I'm the one bowing down, right? Just because I think differently than him. 🤷

Jerry Rogers6 said:Listen, buddy,

I'm not letting this slide because it's flat-out false. It's just some nonsense that's gained traction despite having zero basis in reality.

Don't be a coward and start throwing out baseless accusations just for the sake of it.🙂

I didn't time him down to the exact second, but I don't see him around much. And he doesn't exactly make a fuss about it either... 😁

Lisa Hernandez3 said:I’m mostly talking about the communication here. This thread alone is a perfect example of people failing to actually engage with others or follow basic patterns of answering questions about partial payments. Unless you think arguing for the sake of arguing is actually useful... When it comes to partials, which are basically strict penalties, the math needs to be spot on. Every single cent...

That's it. I get the feeling they're finally letting me off the leash just so I can lose control... and then they can say they told me so... Did anyone actually tell you...Still nothing on my profile or in my inbox. Not a single word about those procedural errors...

quietdriver3 said:Maybe I’ll draw a parallel to that other thread about moderation.

The obvious reason he started feeling like things were "unfair" was when a single smiley face post got wiped from the chat. That was the specific moment his faith in the mods just... broke.

As for the underlying stuff... I don't know what that is, but I’m pretty sure it involves some kind of breakfast casserole.

Well, we're screwed. Anyone else want in...?

Timothy Davis59 said:Started with a smiley and ended with a partial credit 🤣

🤣

Joshua Smith5 said:Your little games and the way you handle discussions—specifically how you try to shut people out—are pathetic. 😁 No, you aren't whining; you're just cleaning up the trash on Reddit. Good luck with that, Bickle. 😉

What exactly are you implying? How am I shutting people out? Just look at briskhound2's pattern of behavior... that's what you should be talking about.

Joshua Smith5 said:You should have added a few more facepalms there. 🙂

It’s interesting how you people interpret things. I never told anyone to shut up, bow down to the moderators, or just take it. No. I said—and Henry Campbell5 should get that—that you eat the crap you pooped out, serve your DESERVED punishment, and then come back to post later. How he chooses to write after that is his business.

Since I hold a different view than Henry Campbell5—because I believe both him and Murmillo bear more responsibility for all the stupid situations currently happening on the Movie forum—I guess I'm the one bowing down, right? Just because I think differently than him. 🤷

I take my deserved punishments without any trouble. I'll eat the crap I pooped out and ask for a redo. Besides, I've been banned before. So your little theories about me whining are completely misplaced. I don't know what you're trying to get out of this, but it feels like you're just posing... honestly, you're being boring even to yourself. 🙂

Roger Allen3 said:So, does that mean it’s fine to just slap him with a ban without warning, ignoring years of contributions and labeling him a "constant provocateur" after what feels like only a week? Is there really no other way to handle their little dispute?

I mean, I thought there was. But then I posted my thoughts here and saw how the other side doesn't even think there's anything wrong with how they're acting, so I guess my doubts about that are pretty much gone now.

Henry Campbell5 said:I take my deserved punishments without any trouble. I'll eat the crap I pooped out and ask for a redo. Besides, I've been banned before. So your little theories about me whining are completely misplaced. I don't know what you're trying to get out of this, but it feels like you're just posing... honestly, you're being boring even to yourself. 🙂

The number of open threads on Reddit proves you wrong.

Whatever. I'll stick to my "don't give a damn" attitude while you keep whining. 🤷

Jerry Rogers6 said:Don't fucking screw with me.
Why are you implying this user is some kind of degenerate? Are you guys actually sane?!

You’ve got another moderator right here who has been operating on that exact same principle for years—harassing people, sometimes for absolutely no reason at all.
He spends, well... basically 90% of his time posting troll-style nonsense about sixteen letters long, which, heaven help us, is apparently how he built his entire career on this Reddit.
And now, suddenly, his specific stylistic persona becomes an issue?

🤣

Henry Campbell5 is being treated incredibly unfairly—first by those arguing with Stiletto, and now by you guys too.
It’s honestly pathetic.
In this whole situation, Bloomer is the victim here.

As for the other thing, I didn't follow the whole mess involving briskhound2 and those conflicts closely.
But what really struck me was when you appointed him; personally, I think he brought a much-needed breath of humanity to this PDF movie section.
He disrupted—or rather, "disrupted"—that sense of elitism and the occasional over-the-top snobbery you guys tend to push.
Personally, I liked him because he's cool with Joshua Smith 😬, but that’s beside the point.
I think briskhound2 is a perfectly fine moderator, and I actually enjoy reading his takes, even the ones where I disagree.

For God's sake, get your act together, because what you're doing right now is completely self-sabotaging.

This is actually a significant point. This particular user has the audacity to show up here and lecture Henry Campbell5, when in reality, this same individual used to mock other users relentlessly—not to mention his association with briskhound2. Just a bunch of trolls, edgy movies, and shady collaborations.

Honestly, give me a break.

quietdriver3 said:Henry Campbell5 says he’s planning to start "stirring the pot" and being provocative, basically giving a moderator an ultimatum.

I don't think that's really what constructive participation in a PDF movie community looks like.

You totally missed the second part of that, the whole "stirring the pot" and provocation bit. Ranting and criticizing the way this PDF movie is being run—well, looking at the neighboring thread, you guys deleted a post of his out of pure spite (and we all agree there was zero actual reason for it), which triggered a reaction from that user and got him permanently banned from the PDF movie. That’s your version of moderation: banning one user and then banning another on the very same day. They complained about those sneaky deletions—basically, mods baiting people—and labeled it "ad hominem, iranian style." Are those really valid reasons to kick someone off the PDF movie? Honestly, you should be embarrassed.

I also remember your little vendettas against Dr. Mabuse; he spent years hanging around other forums before getting booted after calling a mod a "stinker." No, that isn't objective or impartial moderation; it’s just ego. You don't need to explain the reasons for the bias against Henry Campbell5 to me—explain them to him. This attempt at an excuse is pathetic; go ahead and provide some actual, concrete reasons for this favoritism. You can't, because we both know they don't exist.

That isn't constructive participation in the activity of a PDF.

Day in and day out, you guys are proving how non-constructive your own involvement in this PDF is (especially regarding management; just look at the adjacent topic for proof). And who even brought up clans on the Movie section? We could talk about them too. From where I'm sitting, I see users who aren't even on speaking terms, yet they all share one commonality: you guys "really screwed up, and you should seriously be ashamed", and that's twice in just a few months. Going back to the clans, there’s really only one clique running the Movie section, a group that is systematically destroying it, turning it into a private club, and pushing out anyone they don't like. If you just recall Henry Campbell5's old critique about the "cult-like takeover" of the Movie section, the real reasons for this bias will become crystal clear—including things like pinning an American movie in the sticky PDF. We could dive into that too, without leaking any private info or names, obviously.

And to answer Patrick Martin: this isn't some public town square. Reddit is essentially someone's "private bathroom," and the whole problem is that this clique in the Movie section thinks they own the place. They don't. Reddit belongs to Anderlon, but even looking at the previous administration, it shows that the users are the ones who always come out on top. The situation in the Movie section has spiraled completely out of control, and problems are just piling up. Nobody is going to keep supporting this—it's high time the PDF movie gets a brand new crew of moderators.

Henry Campbell5 says he’s planning to start "stirring the pot" and being provocative, basically giving a moderator an ultimatum.

I don't think that's really what constructive participation in a PDF movie community looks like.