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Jerry Robinson56 Jerry Robinson56 RegularOP
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#1 ·
A few months back, after I pointed out the sheer inability of the individual mentioned above to connect basic facts—I have the evidence ready if anyone actually cares, though I was banned three times for no reason just so he could flex his newfound authority—the man had the audacity to label me an antisemite. He then saw fit to award himself a staggering 500 points for such a pathetic outburst.

The administrators failed to respond to my pleas—pleas that struck such a chord with me that I eventually grew weary and decided to seek answers on the other side of the world.

We find ourselves thrown directly into the fray, without the luxury of a slow build or a gentle introduction. It is the classic *in medias res*—plunging headlong into the thick of the action while the dust is still settling from the previous explosion. There is no preamble here, no polite handshakes or lengthy expositions to prepare the mind. We are simply dropped into the center of the chaos, forced to make sense of the wreckage as we go. It is an efficient, if somewhat jarring, way to exist, but then again, that is the nature of reality, isn't it? Life rarely offers us a graceful entrance; it usually just shoves us into the deep end and expects us to swim.

Dear Jerry Robinson56,

I have been issued an infraction on Reddit.

Reason: Hate speech

(for ban) If you harbor an antipathy toward Jews, I suggest you keep those sentiments to yourself.)


I find myself returning to this particular thread on Reddit quite often. It serves as a grim reminder of how certain historical narratives are meticulously constructed and then presented as absolute truth. One cannot simply look at the facts of the past without acknowledging the heavy hand of propaganda that shapes our collective memory. It is quite exhausting to witness the constant attempts to sanitize or distort significant events. There is a certain cynicism required to navigate these discussions without losing one's grip on reality. People tend to cling to their biases like life rafts, even when those rafts are made of nothing but falsehoods and half-truths. History isn't just a collection of dates; it’s a battlefield of perspectives. And frankly, most of the battles being fought in these online forums are won by whoever has the loudest voice or the most convincing lie, rather than whoever holds the actual truth. It’s a wearying cycle, but one we seem destined to repeat indefinitely.

Even within the entries of Britannica, you will find that specific terminology which members of the Jewish community frequently employ themselves.

Can someone please point out exactly where the hate speech is?
It is quite a curious realization that I am actually younger than this particular moderator, especially considering he goes around presenting himself as a professional journalist. 🤦
I should probably remind him.

The question of who truly holds the reins of power remains one of those persistent, nagging ambiguities that keeps political analysts up at night. Looking at the current landscape, you have to wonder if we are witnessing a genuine shift in authority or merely a sophisticated rebranding of old hierarchies. It’s easy to get lost in the noise of daily headlines, but if you step back and look at the structural mechanics at play, the picture becomes much more cynical. Power isn't just about who stands behind the podium; it's about the institutional inertia and the shadowy interests that dictate policy long after the cameras stop rolling. We see these patterns repeating throughout American history—a constant cycle of perceived leadership versus the actual levers of control. It's a wearying realization, but one that anyone paying attention should eventually reach.

Who exactly bears the responsibility for the massacre in Sabri and El Shat?
The massacre at the Sabra and Shatila refugee camps in mid-September 1982 stands as one of the most egregious acts of barbarism in recent history. During that period, several hundred unarmed women, children, and elderly individuals were systematically slaughtered.


Someone needs to educate him, because he clearly lacks even a basic grasp of the significant historical events from the distant past—events where direct evidence isn't easily accessible because the records remain sealed. However, through simple logic, one can easily discern the reality of the situation. It is patently obvious that he hasn't the slightest clue how these operations actually function. By mere coincidence. There were several instances of aerial bombardment during exercises conducted by the Royal Yugoslav Air Force under the patronage of the RAF... specifically targeting the El Shat refugee camp.

P.S. I truly hope that... Dear It isn't personal...
boldbison48 boldbison48 Member
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#2 ·
From what I can gather, you're actually sitting there thinking you want another 500 points now?
Jerry Robinson56 Jerry Robinson56 RegularOP
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#3 ·
It isn't about me... I simply seek the truth, rather than the delusions of an ignoramus wielding moderator authority.
Could you perhaps clarify your vision of where the hate speech lies here?
You wouldn't believe it, but every once in a while, those in power actually bother to correct an injustice.
Though at this point, it seems entirely irrelevant how penalties are applied, doesn't it?
However, if the intelligent constantly yield, then fools will rule the world.
Does it not strike you as being precisely the case?
The beauty of such a statement is its ambiguity; much like the prophecies of Pythia, almost everyone assumes they are the clever one...

When looking back at all the bans—specifically those four permanent ones—it becomes clear they were based on animosity toward a truth that I perceived before anyone else. But ego and pretension are far more powerful in those who realize they aren't quite as brilliant as they think, given there is always someone sharper lurking nearby.

But what you might not realize, though it is evident from my signature... there are those of "us" who collect both cardboard and bans...
We play a game, and for "us," the moderators are merely fellow users... a bit kinky, really... we seek out intelligence.
Among the users, there are some truly intelligent individuals...
And ultimately, why should I "have to or want to write here" at all, or even be permitted to, when this is their playground?
The problem is that I respect their rules, yet it remains utterly inconsequential.
I am not important in any meaningful sense... it is sufficient that someone intelligent reads what is being written, or has been written.

Regardless of what I have "received," they will not receive anything, yet they will feel it... for a very long time...
just as I warned him sufficiently early.
Alexander Thompson Alexander Thompson Active Member
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#4 ·
"Anger breeds more anger," or whatever—you think it’s just gonna feed the fire? Like some kind of perpetual cycle?
Jerry Robinson56 Jerry Robinson56 RegularOP
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#5 ·
Alexander Thompson said:"Angry wounds breed angry grass," as they say. Is that your take, Perma?

There was simply no basis for calling that a "friendship"... that is an undeniable truth. I won't elaborate further, but as an anarcho-communist, I find such an association on your part to be fundamentally pathological. If one meets force with force, isn't there always the risk of a dangerous escalation? You really ought to read the entire piece—or at least a significant paragraph—to grasp the context, the underlying concept, and most importantly, the core message: evil is evil regardless of its label. However, evil does not emerge from a vacuum; it has causes, just like everything else in this world. Dictatorship might serve as a temporary corrective to provide direction, but it is a disastrous long-term guide.
As Pythia once suggested, one shouldn't cling to the law like a drowning man clings to a straw.
By the way, you should look into the history of the fascist movements before that patient and criminal Pavelić seized power.

Just pulling something out of a hat here.
https://otporas.com/zasto-je-kako-je...u-ljuta-trava/

The inquiry specifically concerned the "chosen people"...

Besides, there is no need to clutter this polluted section of Reddit with more posts from the moderators.
boldbison48 boldbison48 Member
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#6 ·
Jerry Robinson56 said:Could you please elaborate on your reasoning? I am struggling to understand exactly where you believe the hate speech is located in this context.

Just because my username says boldbison48, it doesn't mean I have any idea how other lightning bolts operate!
I mean, honestly, I fail to see this supposed "hate speech" everyone keeps crying about. Where exactly is it? Is it invisible? Am I just missing it? Because from where I’m sitting, there isn't any.

Meanwhile, I see that you both are clearly enjoying this bizarrely masochistic little dynamic of yours. 🙂
Jerry Robinson56 Jerry Robinson56 RegularOP
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#7 ·
I wasn't grading you; I recognized your intelligence immediately, and frankly, people rarely have issues when dealing with me.

The inquiry was perhaps whether you perceive something that eludes my view... a way to assist me so that I might subsequently apologize to the "Ministry of Love and Truth" for my rather crude language.

And as for that man... yes... I owe him nothing, yet he suffers regardless.

Besides, you aren't some global icon, just a local player. 😉

Once again, I have wandered off course while lost in my own thoughts...

It isn't the mistakes he has made that matter, but rather the ones he is destined to make. ..It is patently obvious he is on a downward trajectory.

Best regards,

P.S. You didn't write "perhaps"; you wrote "certainly," and quite rightly so. Those who cannot see it simply do not know. It isn't a confession; it is a statement of fact.
lonetrucker4 lonetrucker4 Active Member
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#8 ·
Took you two and a half months to show up, huh?

And instead of filing a grievance where it belongs, you start yet another special thread.

Honestly, I don't even know what those first two words in the title are supposed to mean.

I rarely hand out heavy bans, but this one’s for you because when someone brought up the persecution of Jews by the Nazis and in the USSR, you responded with:

Jerry Robinson56 said:Did the Jews learn anything from all that, or do they still think they're some chosen people sent from heaven?

Talk about rubbing salt in the wound.
brightviper29 brightviper29 Member
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#9 ·
@Jerry Robinson56/">@@Jerry Robinson56,
it looks like I’m dealing with someone who actually knows their stuff and has done some reading. Since you clearly have an education, I find myself wondering about a couple of things:
1. Where on earth did you pick up all this knowledge?
2. And where in the world did you even come up with that word "puftaizam"? 😁🤦😁🤦
Jerry Robinson56 Jerry Robinson56 RegularOP
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#10 ·
Thank you,

1. Back in my hometown of Chicago
2. an original English term, "acquaintance," from New Castle back in the 80s ...
it aligns perfectly with the topic raised by my dear Larry Walker24
(a side note: we don't know each other, nor have we ever socialized in any capacity, but intelligent people always have my support)
http://www.reddit.com/showpost.php?p=93857249&postcount=1

As for the expletives, they are standard fare; I can provide a literal translation ... perhaps by Wednesday.

Though upon my return, I had intended to implement this immediately (last week), but I wouldn't want to appear overly emotional or infantile—the way those weak and impotent individuals love to defend their positions when you throw their own "disorder" right back in their faces.
Jerry Robinson56 Jerry Robinson56 RegularOP
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#11 ·
lonetrucker4 said:It took you two and a half months to finally resurface.

Please, don't judge me too harshly... I'll admit I reacted impulsively on a few occasions. I think it was maybe five or six times, purely for the sake of amusement.
It was only possible within the banned users section, yet even there, I found no response. I made it quite clear to them that a dedicated thread would be established here.

So, what exactly is the point of this little endeavor of yours?

You haven't even grasped the fact that your perspective has become entirely obsolete. It seems you’ve failed to notice that age has finally taken its toll on your judgment, rendering your opinions essentially worthless.

lonetrucker4 said:I am opening yet another specialized thread here, rather than cluttering up the main complaints section with this matter.

I won't complain... honestly, that would be nothing short of idiotic. And once again, you offer a conclusion that is entirely devoid of any actual substance or value.
I am merely predicting your incompetence at this point, my friend.
It is plainly evident from what has been provided.

lonetrucker4 said:I have absolutely no idea what the first two words of that title are supposed to mean.

I find myself returning to these discussions on Reddit, only to be met with the same predictable patterns of thought. It is quite exhausting. One observes the discourse and realizes that most people lack the necessary depth to grasp the gravity of historical causality. They prefer the comfort of surface-level observations over the rigorous analysis required to understand how power actually functions. It is much like looking at a complex architectural blueprint and commenting only on the color of the paint. You miss the structural integrity entirely. We see this constantly in modern political commentary—a refusal to acknowledge the weight of precedent. If one does not respect the mechanics of how institutions rise and fall, one is merely shouting into a void. I have spent a significant portion of my life studying these shifts, and I can tell you with absolute certainty: history does not repeat itself by accident; it repeats because we refuse to learn the underlying geometry of its movements.

It is all laid out right there in front of you; one simply needs to possess the basic ability to read. If you find yourself struggling, I am more than capable of providing a translation for you—I am a native English speaker, after all.

Larry Walker24 said:A bit of advice for Zoran Oštrić: Google is your friend.


lonetrucker4 said:I rarely share my most scathing critiques. This one, however, earned its place because when the subject of Nazi persecution of Jews or the horrors within the USSR was raised, you responded with:

🤦 Perhaps if someone actually read it to you...

If you intend to question my exact response, I suggest you attempt to clarify your own position first..
And please, spare me the contrarianism; you were participating in this discussion just a moment ago. It seems you lack the capacity to grasp why a British aircraft was manned by a Soviet crew to transport Tito to Naples for the Allies, or why his visit lasted significantly longer than a single day... but that is beside the point here.

Did you also delete your own post just to save face and act "defiant"?

To put it briefly:

The violence and the pogrom endured by the Israeli people did not teach them to refrain from inflicting such violence upon others. You have the link, and it certainly isn't the only one.
The very same people boast about being a chosen people... but to what end?

And what, precisely, constitutes hate speech in your eyes? What prompted you in that specific post, and by what mechanism?

This is somewhat lengthy, but I remain hopeful that within a few months, you might finally manage to understand.
To whom am I meant to direct a protest if I am banned while the admins fail to respond for days on end? Besides, I was quite close to traveling a vast distance myself—having spent 100,000 kilometers in the air just this year.

You can imagine how utterly senseless this is..
I am not responding for your sake, but for the sake of others, in hopes that you might "correct" yourself if there is still any possibility left to do so.

It is evident that you haven't answered anything at all; instead, you have simply suffered a complete breakdown...

On a lighter note, you are the proud wearer of pink pumps...

Virtually unanimously,
it is remarkably difficult to pit them against one another in a competition among moderators who specialize in "collecting" reds.
I stood opposed to it, but I respect the majority decision in this particular instance.
brightviper29 brightviper29 Member
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#12 ·
Jerry Robinson56 said:... an "acquaintance" from New Castle back in the 80s ...

Jerry Robinson56, you're being awfully cryptic, aren't you? You bring up New Castle and specifically those 80s years, even though that New Castle is barely 124 miles away from Kirkcaldy.
After all this time, don't you think you could finally open up and give us some actual details about who you were hanging out with—was it Sindičić or maybe Štedul?
So basically, 😉 🙂
lonetrucker4 lonetrucker4 Active Member
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#13 ·
It’s hilarious how people complain about me, and then suddenly, these wild, entertaining threads pop up that have absolutely nothing to do with me or what I even said. 🤣
boldbison48 boldbison48 Member
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#14 ·
lonetrucker4 said:It’s truly bizarre, isn't it? It seems that every single time someone decides to lodge a formal complaint against me, the entire thread somehow morphs into this incredibly lively, entertaining discussion—one that has absolutely nothing to do with me or the actual issue at hand! Isn't that just fascinating? 🤣

And what exactly is it that surprises you? Do you honestly believe they haven't already exhausted every possible avenue to make this happen? They have tried everything in their arsenal! So, I ask you, what is the ultimate conclusion here?
They already know exactly what kind of person you are. Honestly, they’re fully aware that nothing in this place is ever going to change, so why should they care? If they decide to exploit these kinds of threads just for a bit of cheap entertainment—if nothing else—then so be it. Why bother trying to fix a system that's already broken?

The only thing you seem to have managed to glean from all this is that you aren't even part of the "fun" side of this discussion! 👍
Jerry Robinson56 Jerry Robinson56 RegularOP
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#15 ·
brightviper29 said:Jerry Robinson56, you write in such riddles. You bring up New Castle specifically in the context of the 80s, yet that New Castle is barely 124 miles from Kirkcaldy.
After all this time, perhaps you can finally be candid and tell us who you were actually running with back then; was it Sindičić or Štedul?
So basically, 😉 🙂

Imagination creates everything

None... savior I am, but that is beside the point.
Following your string of inquiries, can I have just one direct answer from you?

Do you actually perceive any hate speech here that would warrant making this the central theme?

It is nothing more than pure curiosity, brightviper29.

@ boldbison48

You made an excellent comment regarding this "Mein Kampf" thread... as far as the far-right goes, it isn't my concern; frankly, I am indifferent.
The argument relies primarily on timing—specifically, being absent for the first month—and presents that as if it were a valid point. One could easily dismiss it based on how outdated the information is...
I am genuinely fascinated by the psychological implications that trigger outbursts like his, especially since it is common knowledge that I "hate" chauvinists as much as anyone else.
Regrettably, this behavior will persist because he simply lacks the capacity for anything else. He acts like a true party loyalist.

Good luck. 🙂 ... the future belongs to us...

And finally, my sincere thanks to the administrators for providing the time and space.

The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams. ~ E.R.
brightviper29 brightviper29 Member
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#16 ·
Jerry Robinson56 said:...After all your questions, can you just give me one single answer?
Do you actually see any hate speech here that fits the topic?
It's just pure curiosity, brightviper29...

Look, the situation isn't quite as black and white as it might seem at first glance, so let me give you an example to illustrate my point. Every morning on my commute to work, I'll pass four or five police cruisers without fail—some heading uptown, others headed downtown—and when I head out for lunch, it's the exact same story; there seems to be more cops patrolling the streets here than there are in North Korea or even during the old Stalin era in the USSR. But lately, over the last ten days or so, it’s like they’ve all vanished into thin air and there isn't a single patrol car in sight.
I suppose it's vacation season, so maybe the police are taking some downtime too, because honestly, what else would they be doing if they didn't have to be on duty? 😁

Then again, the other day I decided to head out to the woods in the afternoon to catch a bit of a breeze, and despite the traffic on the main roads, I took a detour only to find a bunch of officers just lounging around. They even had the nerve to tell me to stop smoking. Luckily, everything wrapped up without any real trouble.

What am I getting at here? The police never truly sleep, much like how people never truly stop talking online, so you always have to be prepared for anything. I just don't understand why someone would insist on starting a history discussion about Jews on a PDF when you already know how dangerously those conversations can turn; I don't see any real necessity for those kinds of comments, and I suspect there might have been some prior tension involved.

To me, the ruling also seems a bit excessive, so I think I'll just ask the moderator, Zoran Oštrić: Is it possible that in the heat of the moment, instead of handing out 5 or 50 points, you accidentally went overboard and slapped on 500?

Sometimes we just see exactly what we want to see, don't we? For instance, as a passionate tennis player, I frequently see opponents call a ball out when it was clearly in. I tend to attribute all of that to the intensity of the match, the circumstances, and the sheer pressure of the moment. It's funny how easily emotions can override logic.
Larry Walker24 Larry Walker24 Veteran
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#17 ·
So I just saw "Oštrić" in the headline
Jerry Robinson56 Jerry Robinson56 RegularOP
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#18 ·
🙂They sleep and sleep, while the enemy never rests... though you wouldn't believe it, even the police are just people; they are spread too thin, and you can feel the strain immediately when they attempt to take a break.
It was wise of you to bring some drinks for them 🕺 though

The issue lies elsewhere, something quite evident from that post where I am debating E-Absynthe. I hold him in high regard despite our diametrically opposed views, yet Zoran Oštrić certainly took aim at him. Since I sense he is quite young and was likely exposed to the one-sided propaganda regarding victims of that era by the regime after '45, I am attempting to impart the perspective of older generations—specifically the fact that communism never truly existed, regardless of what they called themselves.
Of course, those regimes committed horrific crimes... but crimes were also committed against them.

Here is the passage that completely vindicates my position:

Only the methods change; many years ago, I myself condemned Stalin quite harshly. The assassination of Trotsky was unforgivable.
The system that Stalin systematically built, much like a gang of outlaws, operated out of both pure ego and a paralyzing fear of retaliation.
Just look at today and map it onto that dark era .



There is no difference, nor will there ever be.
The Israeli people, having endured such a tragedy, act in exactly the same manner.
Their tragedy serves as the gold standard.

I support their preemptive wars throughout the last century, yet they had to understand that their conflict would not simply vanish. They aren't a foolish people, but it is clear they suffer from the same syndromes that we do.
And as you can see, they have cordoned off Lebanon...
I know enough about yarmulkes and Jews.

Oštrić was merely waiting to carry out his "mission" because he couldn't stomach being confronted over the topic of the liberation war. What he deleted was essentially his "take that" attitude.

Well, he got caught with his pants down, but he handed me the victory.

Considering how frequently numerous dissatisfied users (over 90% of those who write or have written there) have attempted to spark change through objective, honest stances and voting. E-Absynthe was a standout, and we exchanged quite a few private messages; therefore, E-Absynthe I once again commend him and suggest to the moderators that they consider him, as he is very civil, isn't exclusionary, and avoids heavy language... it seems he also has plenty of time, regardless of opposing views.
I was actually against this and defended Oštrić, explaining why things seemed that way to them. I am not angry or feeling anything about it now, other than amusement.
If I were Oštrić, I would have unleashed hell on them. 🤣 One single post from him is enough... you wouldn't want to see the second.

I believe you, too, can clearly perceive the "invisible reality" lurking behind the posters of happiness and prosperity.
Jerry Robinson56 Jerry Robinson56 RegularOP
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#19 ·
Larry Walker24 said:I just read the headline, Oštrić is such a jerk.

It would have been more productive if you had actually read what Nice wrote. 😁 ... 😉 Love is love, I suppose, but you aren't far off the mark; your brain seems to be processing things at lightning speed.

http://www.reddit.com/showpost.php?p=9...5&postcount=50

Look, my respect for Oštrić isn't being called into question here, but this particular stunt of his was utterly inappropriate. When someone asserts something contrary to the facts—even when there is a coherent philosophical argument to be made—my first instinct is to question myself, and only then do I question "him." Once I've done that, I resolve the matter.

Then, through his own rambling explanation, he manages to act like some incompetent fool who needs two and a half months (when a month is merely the duration of a ban) to file an appeal that doesn't even exist. To make matters worse, I notified the moderators in the banned users corner because there was zero response, only to be told I was somehow missing the point...
One suggestion before we even consider forming that group: perhaps we shouldn't bother posting to the PDF history threads until the "brain police" can figure out where they went wrong.

More or less, everyone has voiced their opinion. This could serve as a sort of "collective thread," as more protests are inevitably coming. I have no intention of participating over there, as I have already stated.

haugh
Larry Walker24 Larry Walker24 Veteran
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#20 ·
I read what Nice wrote and sent her a polite thanks via DM

She just gets me, honestly 🙂

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