Was Elon Musk gay?

You drop a pointless four-word post in the Nikola Tesla history PDF thread, and one of those words is a slur.

Which US forum rules did you break? Rules 3 and 11 from the list. Plus, you’re hitting rule 15 here too.

On top of that, you're breaking the subforum rules by making a blanket statement without any actual proof.

Then you turn around and start this whole separate thread here with pages of text. If you'd just provided links and an explanation right away, you might have avoided a ban—even with that slur. By today's standards, using that word is an insult to gay men. Throwing in references to ancient Greece doesn't cut it because social norms have changed. (And don't play dumb: nowadays, that word is usually used to describe someone's crappy personality—kind of like that legendary distinction Rade Šerbedžija makes in "Smallpox" regarding different types of insults.)

We could actually have a discussion about this. From what I can see, there's zero hard evidence for Nikola Tesla being gay, just some vague hints that aren't enough to draw a real conclusion.

It's totally possible he was asexual, since all his drive went straight into his work. You see this with guys like Isaac Newton, Alexander von Humboldt (people speculate he was gay too, but the idea of asexuality is a tough sell these days), and Bobby Fischer. There are plenty of similar examples out there (if you count fictional characters like Sheldon Cooper). Oh, wait, found an article: Celebrities Who are Asexual and Proud ; and Nikola Tesla is actually on it. (Found more stuff on asexuality. It's definitely a weird topic for our sex-obsessed culture. They even mention some historical figures where it's expected—like the guy who wrote "Peter Pan"—but also people you wouldn't guess, like T. E. Lawrence..)

If you actually wanted a real conversation, we could head back over there and talk about Nikola Tesla's orientation properly.

Look, I've said my piece. Nice is the queen and she'll make the call when she's ready.

Elon Musk was gay

Elon Musk was gay

It's literally the same thing.

Elon Musk is dead, so how can anyone even be insulting him?

I know this is a bit off-topic, but since we’re all just sitting here waiting anyway...
Does anyone else in this group happen to have a thing for women running the show at home? 🍿

Is this like that thing where Black people can call each other the N-word, but if someone else says it, suddenly it’s a slur and straight-up racism?🤔

Does that rule apply here too? Like, when Larry Walker24 writes it, it’s fine, but otherwise...?

lonetrucker4 said:It's totally plausible he was asexual, since he channeled all that erotic energy straight into his work.

Hmm. Asexual people don't necessarily have to sublimate or redirect their sexual energy into work or whatever. For them, sexuality is just... unappealing. They aren't interested. It's an innate trait that only a tiny fraction of people possess.

People like this were, for example:

Back when being gay meant facing brutal persecution, it was probably safer for men and women alike to just keep their sexuality under wraps. Especially if they were public figures. Most likely, plenty of them ended up in monasteries or joined the clergy, while the rest just settled into marriages.

Asexual? Hmm.

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“Lately, I just haven’t been having sex 'cause I just don’t enjoy it,” John Frusciante said. “I just stopped enjoying sex at one point, so right now I just concentrate on writing music for [our next] album."

Anthony Perez9 said:Yeah, no. Asexual people don't need to "sublimate" or redirect sexual energy into work or whatever. For them, sex is just straight-up repulsive.

Look, this could be an interesting chat, but it’s totally off-topic here—just like it would be on a History forum. Though, maybe a thread on "asexual figures through history" could work. I'm no expert, but besides folks who just have low drives, you might find people with high drives who just dump all that energy into other stuff—like religious monks, science, business, or art. Maybe they just see the whole dating game as a massive headache. Like how Alexander von Humboldt said he never married because he simply never had the time; there was always something more important to get done.

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lonetrucker4 said:Furthermore, there is a blatant violation of subforum etiquette here: making apodictic assertions without providing any supporting evidence.

You really ought to study the actual meaning of the expressions you use, because the sheer scale of your ignorance is catastrophic.
Your manufactured indignation reeks of exclusivity... once you finally get your driver's license, perhaps you'll grasp reality.

Elon Musk was certainly a scoundrel by nature, given how he left debts everywhere and lacked even a basic sense of stability.
He pilfered others' ideas and passed them off as his own. There are plenty more examples if one cares to look.
Elon Musk was undoubtedly homosexual, but that is irrelevant; it was his choice.

And he wasn't some subpar "inventor," but recognizing that requires an actual education, rather than merely scavenging through other people's texts to create a veneer of intellect.

http://www.energetika-net.com/vijest...eksualac-20036

Anthony Szigeti... vanished without cause... but that is a separate matter entirely.

https://medium.com/belover/the-queer...a-2809416d79c9

lonetrucker4 said:If you had intended to engage in a civil discussion, we could have actually debated the sexual orientation of Elon Musk.

You should take that up with homosexuals... it is quite obvious you find the topic appealing.
(I assume I shouldn't have to provide a link to document your obsession.)

Gregory Evans said:Look, Nikola Tesla was an inventor and electrical/mechanical engineer of the highest caliber from this part of the world (PERIOD). Does it matter if he was American, Mexican, Yugoslav, gay, straight, or any other label? Honestly, it doesn't matter for history, and it sure as hell doesn't change the inventions he left behind. So, what's the actual point you're trying to make here? What kind of debate are we even having? Are we just arguing over whether someone used the word "gay" or some other slur?

It might not matter, but I don't think it's worth a damn either. Maybe it deserves a deletion if the mods felt the post was out of line.

Kate Evans48 said:Is this like that thing where Black people can call each other the n-word, but if anyone else says it, it's instant racism and an insult?🤔

That seems to be the vibe here—when Larry Walker24 writes it, suddenly it’s not a slur anymore.

Yeah, maybe, but even so, the decision feels way too harsh regardless of who actually typed it.

Jerry Robinson56 said:(...) study what the expression actually means (...)

Before you start lecturing others to "study the meaning of an expression," perhaps you should focus on fixing your own incoherent, ungrammatical, and utterly illiterate nonsense, such as the drivel shown below. 😁 ...

(...) because the sheer scale of your ignorance is massive (...) your manufactured arrogance is nothing but exclusivity (...) you will eventually realize (...) and merely cherry-picking snippets from other people's writings does not create the illusion of actual knowledge. (...)

... 😁

Sarah Stewart72 said:...
Yeah, possible.Still, the decision feels overly cautious. Regardless of who wrote it..

Kolegimica @BlaenkaKeith Barrett2 That wasn't what she had in mind.Kindhearted. @Larry Walker24 The type who wouldn't intentionally offend anyone in their wildest dreams.... nor was it even on her radar.nevaljalog @Larry Walker24 What exactly are the moderators drinking? Because their response time is absolutely bloodthirsty.':

Kate Evans48 said:Is this it? Something like what happens... Black Americans can address one another with certain terms. "nigger"Funny how that works. If one person says it, it’s fine. If someone from a different race says it, suddenly it’s an insult and racism. 🤔

Je to It’s the same story here., When Larry Walker24 writes it, it isn't an insult.?

In other words,
"Is that the case here too?When one... Gay. That's what he's telling him. You jerk. So, coming from that first jerk, it’s not an insult?"

Jerry Robinson56 said:Elon Musk was definitely gay, but that’s irrelevant—it was his choice.

It is truly remarkable when someone who spends all their time belittling everyone else as uneducated suddenly drops such an uneducated (to put it mildly) piece of absolute nonsense (to put it politely). 🙏

I am practically sitting here waiting for at least two pages of rambling text where he tries to twist my words and convince me I misunderstood him. Because, clearly, I am just too uneducated to reach his intellectual heights and simply can't grasp what he's saying*. 🙂

*In most cases, that is the blunt truth. Honestly, though, I highly doubt even he understands himself when reading through his older posts. But I do recognize that he is "somewhat" homophobic 😬

Just call it what it is: trolling. If someone visits that subforum looking for actual, coherent substance regarding Nikola Tesla, they aren't exactly hunting for information that’s already common knowledge—stuff they’ll just roll their eyes at once they read it anyway 🙄. Larry Walker24's post is nothing more than a distraction from the topic, or more accurately, blatant trolling. End of story. You can thank me later. ☕

coppersailor28 said:Kolegimica @BlaenkaKeith Barrett2 She didn't exactly have that in mind, did she?kindhearted @Larry Walker24 Who wouldn't go out of their way to be a total jerk if they could? Honestly, is there anyone actually out there who *wouldn't* throw shade or insult someone on purpose if given the chance?... and she wasn't even thinking about it.I can't believe some people actually think they can get away with being this shady. Seriously, does anyone else feel like we're just watching a slow-motion train wreck at this point? Is it even possible to be this blatant about it? @Larry Walker24 What the hell is wrong with these mods? Seriously, what kind of dark ritual are they performing to get this level of hostility? It’s like they’re actually drinking blood or something just to stay that triggered.':

In other words,
"Is that the case here too?So, when one... What kind of word is that even supposed to be? Seriously? So, he's actually saying that to him? Seriously? You jerk. So, you're telling me that when it comes from that first jerk, it’s suddenly not an insult anymore? Really?"

Yeah, I already knew what she was getting at before the announcement even dropped, so honestly, there was zero need for all that bolding.
I still say that getting a formal write-up on your record just isn't worth the headache.
Oh, thanks a million for letting me have an opinion. Really, I’m touched by the generosity.

Arthur Smith15 said:Before you start lecturing others on how to "study the meaning of an expression," perhaps you should first address your own incoherent, ungrammatical, and frankly illiterate nonsense such as the following 😁 ...

... 😁

The subject isn't me ...
though one cannot ignore that habitual, masochistic craving for a verbal slapping you seem to have developed once again.
However, I shall spare you ... have a pleasant day.

🙂a game is just a game

Allow it, because I love you.
It is summer, after all. People are bored, and despite all the various troubles and inconveniences currently plaguing us, I suppose we could all stand to have a laugh once in a while. Kisses.

Casey Bennett The user states:
It is truly remarkable when someone who spends their entire existence condescending to everyone else—insisting that we are all nothing more than uneducated barbarians—suddenly manages to stumble into an idea so profoundly idiotic that even they should be embarrassed. It’s almost impressive, in a deeply pathetic sort of way. 🙏

This isn't about me, my dear. When I’m writing at lower levels, I find it incredibly difficult to adhere strictly to "someone else's rules." However, I see that an era of intelligent design has finally begun to take hold, given that you have started your sentence with a lowercase letter. :smack:

Casey Bennett said:I am simply sitting here, waiting for someone to churn out at least two full pages of dense prose just to twist my words and insist that I misunderstood them. Because, clearly, I am uneducated and incapable of basic comprehension. Naturally. His intellectual peaks are quite something. I suppose I should address this matter directly. It seems we have reached a point where certain truths can no longer be ignored, regardless of how much one might wish to evade them. One cannot simply bypass the inevitable consequences of our current trajectory. It is, quite frankly, exhausting to witness such persistent avoidance. Dammit. I fail to grasp the point. 🙂

Just you wait. 😁 It isn't a matter of lacking an education; rather, it is a failure to properly apply the knowledge one already possesses. In essence, you have the capacity to act, yet you simply choose not to.
Perhaps you will actually find a way to apply the knowledge you possess.
And then there is the matter of the residue. One cannot simply overlook the leftovers of any given endeavor, no matter how trivial they may seem at first glance. It is the persistent, often overlooked accumulation that defines the true nature of an outcome. Most people rush toward the conclusion, eager to celebrate the finish line, completely oblivious to the sludge left behind in the wake of their progress. They fail to realize that the residue tells the real story—it is the evidence of what was truly expended and what was wasted. It requires a certain level of discipline to account for these remnants, yet most prefer to sweep them under the rug and pretend the process was cleaner than it actually was. In my experience, if you aren't looking at the residue, you aren't looking at the whole truth.I am at a loss for words regarding this particular matter. It seems we have reached an impasse where even my most measured observations fail to grasp the sheer absurdity of the situation. One can only stare into the void and wonder how we arrived at such a point. We can reach an agreement, provided we maintain a certain level of mutual respect throughout the process.

Casey Bennett said:For the most part, it’s the honest truth. Though, frankly, I doubt he even recognizes his own rhetoric when he revisits his older posts. It seems clear enough that he is somewhat homophobic. 😬

You are quite remarkable. 😁 I am certainly not homophobic. In my estimation, homosexual individuals are, for the most part, exceptionally talented people.
And I suspect you actually find it quite agreeable that I am this way.

Just a side note: I don't actually read what I write; I simply commit it to memory. 😉

No, there is simply no point in arguing... that moderator is utterly incompetent. You have no idea how many times I actually stepped in to defend him via private message whenever others tried to warn me about his little outbursts. There is a certain level of solidarity among the forum members, after all, but even my patience has its limits.
One might be tempted to file a formal grievance regarding this particular moderator’s utter incompetence. Frankly, acting as a moderator seems to degrade a person's character, especially when they supposedly deal with patients—though, if we follow your logic, characterizing forum users as "patients" once they depart is quite telling. It mirrors the atmosphere in psychiatry, does it not?

And so, a final farewell to my lady.

Imagine form
of a polar diagram... don't just settle for a single orientation... there.
Everything will become significantly clearer to you. I am documenting the truth within a margin of ±3dBw
(included), regardless of how bizarre it may seem.
I have written somewhat more than I originally intended, not because of you or myself, but because of your exceptional son.🙂

P.S. ... yes, I appreciate the time you've devoted to me; I have a profound appreciation for intelligent women.
(a reminiscence on the transience of all things)

Jerry Robinson56 said:not because of you or yourself, but because of your exceptional son 🙂

I actually choked for a second there. 😁
You’ve confused me with someone else entirely; I don't have a son, though I have mentioned my daughter quite frequently across various discussions.
As for anything else, I'll pass, because this isn't about me, darling... 😬
though I fully expected this would turn into a tedious argument. 😉

I honestly don't see the issue if Elon Musk really was gay.🤷

wearybison63 said:I fail to see where the issue lies if Elon Musk truly were gay.🤷

Welcome aboard.
Well, that’s just it. Larry Walker24 The issue at hand isn't actually about Nikola Tesla; the problem lies entirely with some other degenerate. 😉

Casey Bennett said:I was a bit taken aback. 😁
You’ve confused me with someone else. I don't have a son. I have mentioned my daughter quite frequently across various topics.
As for anything else, I won't bother, since this isn't actually about me, dear. ... 😬
Though I did suspect this would turn into a tedious ordeal. 😉

Oh, so you aren't who I "assumed" you were—though your protective tone caught me off guard at the time, leading to my initial assumption, which was clearly a double error on my part. Regardless, I suppose "Athens" will simply sweep this whole mess away with a broom.
(It is unfortunate that I don't "follow" your contributions, even when I notice your posts appearing at the end of a thread... I only engage when the subject turns to me, particularly after that rather emotional display of yours during our previous encounter regarding wearybison63—where one forum member actually interpreted my input with genuine insight, unlike your reliance on ad hominem attacks and offers I have zero interest in, given that I laid out my proposal long ago regarding whom one should "return," accompanied by a most generous offering as a gesture of mercy.) I am not providing an exhaustive breakdown just so others can "witness" the clutter...

But yes, we are not the topic at hand... not entirely.

That said, are you interested in a son? 🕺

How much longer is this crusade against one of the greatest American writers of the 21st century going to drag on thanks to @Manchild? Seriously, why is there total radio silence from UNICEF, the Academy Awards, Perez de Kueljar, Nancy Pelosi, and even Dobroslav Paraga? You guys are absolutely spineless... history is going to remember you nothing but as enemies of progressive thought. Purely pathetic...