Reddit moderator bans any critical discussion about cryptocurrency

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Larry Walker24 said:who would even bother? some 90-year-old grandpa? I mean, look at the dependency ratio—is it really down to 1.45 workers for every retiree?

plus, how many people are actually in the US? barely under 330 million...

your example just doesn't hold water.

Your logic is pretty sound and mature, honestly.

Maybe the government needs to step in a bit more regarding individual choices and decisions. Specifically, who's pairing up with whom, when, and how. There’s really no reason to mess with women who can't conceive, or God forbid, anything else.

Let's all get behind population renewal!

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Larry Walker24 said:Why does it even matter to you whether people are buying currency or not? What kind of benefit are you getting from this?

And why should I care? Whether we are on a vent thread or discussing anything else, why does my opinion matter to you?

Larry Walker24 said:Who would actually be working? A 90-year-old grandfather? Just look at the dependency ratio—it’s sitting at about 1.45 to 1.

The total population here in the States is under 330 million.

That's a pretty weak comparison on your part.

You were the one who brought this up first.
Stop worrying about things that don't concern you.

Why is there no response from the administration? Are you choosing to ignore that what is being promoted on this forum is an investment scam? Let me explain this in the simplest possible terms.

Essentially, an anonymous individual known as Satoshi Nakamoto wrote a paper, the so-called Whitepaper. This document has become the Bible of the cryptocurrency community. In it, he claimed to have invented a system that generates money—Bitcoin—and facilitates online payments using that money. That claim was repeated until it became the central pillar of the crypto narrative we hear everywhere today. However, the core issue is that his claim is false. This is the essence of the Bitcoin scam. His system does not actually create money. Instead, it simply records how many units or shares an individual holds within his scheme. Satoshi divided the scheme into 21 million units via a protocol. These records of units are merely attached to addresses and stored in a distributed database called a blockchain. But these are not units of economic resources. They aren't units of a product providing intrinsic value to people. They aren't units of debt used to settle obligations, as seen with fiat currency. They aren't units of capital, such as equity in a company used to produce goods or services. They are literally units of nothing. The scheme is entirely devoid of any actual economic resources that people can utilize. This represents a fundamental problem for those holding units of Satoshi Nakamoto's scheme. Because they have invested real economic resources into the scheme, yet the scheme contains no economic resources to access, they desperately require what every investment scam needs: new investors. Someone has to enter the scheme and bring in real economic resources. That is the only way current holders can save themselves. That is the only way they can realize any profit. This is why there is such a desperate need to present Bitcoin—a unit of this empty system—exclusively in a positive light. There is a constant need to repeat the lie that it is money. Not just money, but revolutionary new money. Money that will save the little guy. Money that will solve economic problems and pull developing nations out of corruption and poverty. And so on. But of course, there is no money. Money is a type of economic resource, not a unit or a share in an empty scheme. Therefore, the lies, the praise, and the almost religious worship of Bitcoin stem solely from the necessity of attracting new investors. New investors must bring in real money—actual economic resources—so that existing members of the scheme can offload their fake money, which are merely units of an empty scheme.

Consequently, these units, these Bitcoins, must be portrayed exclusively in a positive light. When I come onto this forum and present Bitcoin in its true light, it is deemed unacceptable. It is treated as sacrilege. It is viewed as an attack on a divine figure. On that Bitcointalk forum of Satoshi Nakamoto's, there is a new thread running along these lines: "Bitcoin allowed you to buy it cheaply... 🤣 In short, Bitcoin is being given human qualities. It is treated as a vital, special, and precious entity that should only be praised. All of this exists because of the need to lure new investors into the scheme. This is why I have been exiled from the PDF Cryptocurrency site. The moderators and their associates there are members of Satoshi Nakamoto's scheme, and it is vital to them that these worthless units are spoken of only positively. But the public on these forums deserves to know the truth. The truth is that this is all one massive investment scam being falsely presented to the public as money and a payment network. So, please, release me and allow me to write there. Thank you for your attention.

Let me offer an analogy to help you better understand how Bitcoin or crypto scams actually operate.

Imagine someone founds a company called ABC and issues 21 million shares—essentially stakes or units in that firm. They then organize an IPO to offer those shares to the public. But there is a catch. The company consists of nothing but the name "ABC." It has no capital. It produces nothing. It sells nothing. It provides zero services. Absolutely nothing. However, the founder claims that instead of keeping the record of share ownership locally—on paper certificates or brokerage accounts—it will be stored globally via an online distributed database, specifically on the famous blockchain. Would you buy shares in this company? Of course not; nobody would touch it. The company is worthless. It possesses no economic resources and has no way to generate them. Therefore, it makes no difference whether the records are kept locally or globally.

That is precisely what cryptocurrencies are. Cryptocurrencies are like companies that possess only a name and nothing else. They are schemes with fancy names that lack any underlying economic resources, divided into "shares," stakes, or units. The entire point of these schemes is to store the record of who owns how many units globally within a blockchain. In essence, these are digital-age investment scams that maintain a ledger of entries and exits online. In the past, stakes in such scams were falsely marketed as lucrative businesses; today, they are falsely branded as "revolutionary future money" or "digital coins." The principle remains identical: people are lured by lies into committing actual economic resources to a scheme. Once they are in, they must wait for new investors to enter and bring in fresh economic resources. If no new investors arrive, the scheme collapses, and people are left with nothing.

Alex Edwards4 said:Since the moderators and their inner circle are basically just members of Satoshi Nakamoto's scheme, they have a vested interest in making sure anyone talking about these worthless units only hears positive things. But the public deserves to know the truth—the truth that this whole thing is just one massive investment scam masquerading as legitimate currency and a payment network. So, just let me be and allow me to speak my mind there. Thanks for listening.

Alex Edwards4, is Bitcoin just selling smoke and mirrors, is it fake money, is it a giant con, or does it actually resemble an investment scam?
Well, you aren't wrong on any of those counts... but perhaps we should look at this through a different lens and consider a broader perspective.

We’re living in an era where the sheer volume of fiat currency in circulation is staggering; people are sitting on unimaginable amounts of wealth held in banks, cash, or savings, where having a few hundred thousand dollars tucked away isn't even considered extraordinary anymore.

For instance, looking at the financial landscape here in the States, if you consider total household financial assets—bank deposits, cash, stocks, and all that—it reaches into the tens of trillions. When you spread that out across the population, it averages out significantly, though obviously, some Americans are sitting on millions while others have nothing at all. To put it bluntly: the US is a massive player on the global stage.

In my travels, I often find myself visiting various places, and even in parts of the world that aren't the wealthiest, you run into people pulling in $10k, $20k, or even $40k a month without ever touching crime, politics, or cozy government positions. And how much richer are the folks in the truly wealthy nations? Last year, I was traveling through a developing region and a guy tells me straight up, "Hey, I bought some Bitcoin too, just to see what would happen." 😁

What am I getting at? Bitcoin is essentially designed for people who have surplus capital and are willing to spend it on entertainment, speculation, gambling, or just passing the time. As long as central banks across the globe continue to relentlessly print and pump new money into the system—regardless of whether it's paper or digital—Bitcoin isn't going anywhere.

New players with excess cash will constantly emerge, calling themselves "investors," and they'll keep buying in. The only way Bitcoin truly collapses is if we hit a massive, systemic economic meltdown, a global recession, or a world-scale war... and honestly, the odds of that happening aren't particularly high.

That isn't really the point. The issue is that misinformation is being spread publicly or specifically here on this Reddit thread. People are then being lured into "investing" or buying what they think is "currency," "assets," or "coins." In reality, there is no actual investment, money, assets, or coins involved. Instead, cryptocurrency systems simply store and transfer data regarding how many shares an individual holds in empty—that is, Ponzi or fraudulent—schemes. Someone invents a scheme, divides it into X million shares, and then sends data to people's digital addresses or e-wallets: you have 5 shares, you have 0.001 shares, you have 2 shares, you transfer 3 shares, you have 150, you have 0.0001, and so on. Shares in what? They are shares in nothing, because the scheme is completely devoid of any economic resources. These aren't shares of capital, debt, land, products, receivables, or any other economic resource. They are shares in entirely hollow schemes that just carry fancy names like Dogecoin, Litecoin, Ripple, or Bitcoin... and they do nothing else except maintain and transfer records of those shares. Essentially, they are standard Ponzi schemes or investment scams where the shares are falsely advertised to the public as units of currency or property.

This is the exact problem I was discussing over in the Cryptocurrency thread. This other stuff is a different matter entirely.

Alex Edwards4 said:...That's exactly the issue I was bringing up over on that Cryptocurrency subreddit.

I mean, isn't it just common sense that the folks hanging out on a specific cryptocurrency subreddit aren't exactly going to welcome anyone who tries to challenge their worldview?

It’s pretty much the same logic you'd apply if there were a subreddit dedicated entirely to "junk food and gluttony." Would it even make sense to walk in there and start lecturing everyone about how being overweight is bad for your health, or how it shortens your lifespan, or how unhealthy eating habits are just plain tasteless? Or think about a subreddit for smokers—would you really go in there and try to share stories about the dangers and devastation of smoking? You just have to let people live in their own little bubbles.

At the end of the day, Bitcoin wasn't designed for the average Joe or the little guy; it's built for the people for whom losing a few thousand, or even a few hundred thousand dollars, isn't even a dent in their net worth. Why not just relax and enjoy the ride? 😁, everything is going to be fine 🙂

brightviper29 said:It stands to reason that people hanging out on a cryptocurrency subreddit aren't going to appreciate anyone challenging their specific worldview.

It’s just like walking into a subreddit dedicated to junk food or being overweight. It would be pointless to try and lecture those people about how poor diet affects health, shortens lifespans, or why certain habits are tasteless. Or imagine going to a smoking enthusiast group to preach about the dangers of cigarettes. Just let people live in their own little bubbles.

At the end of the day, Bitcoin isn't designed for the average person or the "little guy." It's built for individuals for whom losing a few thousand dollars—or even a few hundred thousand—isn't a life-altering catastrophe. Relax and enjoy the ride! 😁, everything will work out 🙂

Exactly. You go to a weight loss scam subreddit to point out that the product is a fraud, and the moderator hands you a ban. 🤣 That's pretty much how it works. It's all in the spirit of the forum. 😁

Alex Edwards4 said:Yeah, you show up to a fat and greasy PDF meeting and try to explain that the weight loss product they’re buying is a total scam—then the moderator hands you a partial fine. 🤣 That’s basically it. Just the usual vibe on this forum. 😁

I didn't actually jump into the debate until the moderator opened up that skeptical thread about cryptocurrency.
The thing is, the crowd defending crypto dogma was just arrogant, rude, condescending, and low—basically every negative trait a person can have. These crypto zealots would flock to the thread just to talk trash against anyone who dared to disagree.
Even after the moderator finally gave other viewpoints a fair shake, those little zealots—those pathetic, small-minded followers—just kept coming back to the skeptical thread to act the exact same way.
Everyone has their own little obsession, I guess.
They love acting superior, lecturing everyone on how smart and modern they are, or bragging about how much money they’ve made—but they just can't help themselves. They keep crawling back to the skeptical threads just to tell us "flat-earthers" how uneducated, ignorant, and backwards we are...
Nowadays, the whole world seems split on pretty much everything; there’s no actual dialogue or consensus left. It’s the same on this forum regardless of the topic. But honestly, if I don't believe in God, I don't really get why I'd hang around threads where users *do* believe in Him, just so I can poke fun at them and provoke them, only to have the moderator ban them on their own damn thread.
After all, they were the ones calling me uneducated, stupid, ignorant, and outdated.
My opinions and my (lack of) faith are my own business—my choice to make.
And it’s the same deal with those worthless cryptocurrencies.

swiftmaker12 said:I didn't bother jumping into the discussion until the moderator finally opened a skeptical thread about cryptocurrency.
The followers defending crypto dogma were arrogant, rude, condescending, and petty—basically displaying every negative trait imaginable. These crypto zealots would swarm the thread just to lash out at anyone brave enough to disagree.
Even after the moderator gave opposing views a fair chance, those little fanatics kept crawling back into the skeptic thread to act the exact same way.
Everyone has their own little delusions.
They seem obsessed with lecturing everyone from a high horse about how smart and modern they are, or how much wealth they’ve accumulated. It’s like they can’t help themselves; they have to keep invading the skeptic threads just to tell us "flat-earthers" how ignorant, uneducated, and backwards we are.
Nowadays, the entire world is polarized on almost every topic, making actual dialogue or consensus impossible. It’s the same thing you see on Reddit regarding any subject. Honestly, I don't get it—if I don't believe in God, why would I show up in a thread full of religious users just to provoke them, only to have the moderator ban them on their own turf as a final insult?
It's because they called me uneducated, stupid, a hillbilly, and outdated.
My opinions and my lack of faith are strictly personal choices.
The same applies to those worthless cryptocurrencies.

That is exactly right; the world is divided. But more specifically, it is divided between truth and lies. That is the core issue. Behind every lie, there is always an underlying interest, usually material, which is pushed through various manipulations. Naturally, those siding with the lies and the manipulation lose their minds when the truth is spoken aloud. Or, if they hold a position of power, they resort to censorship. Deep down, they know what the truth is. Insulting others is simply one way they vent that frustration, much like an ad hominem attack. Whenever I’ve started a skeptical thread, by the way, they all end up getting locked. Most of the responses from the community have been nothing but personal attacks. It was blatant off-topic spamming and trolling—an obvious violation of the rules. It doesn't bother me that this group breaks the rules; what bothers me is that those responsible for enforcing the rules turn a blind eye to clear violations while simultaneously punishing those who actually follow them. Of course, they do all this because they are standing on the side of falsehoods.

You’ve really put all your energy into this whole exposé thing, but don't you think you're missing the forest for the trees by assuming regular folks actually care about being scammed? I mean, look at how people obsessively play the Powerball or blow cash on gadgets they know have zero resale value! At the end of the day, most people just want to know if there's even a tiny glimmer of hope that their investment might actually grow, and honestly, that's all the permission they need to jump in. If you told someone they could make a killing by buying soap bubbles and trying to flip them before they pop, wouldn't they take that bet too? So, I really can't wrap my head around why you think your writing is going to scare anyone away from cryptocurrency—do you seriously believe people are going to walk away because of some moral high ground or because the risk is too high? Because from where I'm sitting, neither of those things is going to stop them!

And when it comes to the forum, isn't it funny how every few months some random guy pops up acting all shocked that the moderation feels biased? Let's be real: a forum always reflects the ideology of the people running the show, and of course they aren't going to let certain posts, threads, or even entire subforums—like religion or alternative views—exist in any meaningful way.

I'm standing right behind this respected academic. Always chasing the truth, no matter how much it stings!

Donna Doyle2 said:You’ve been laser-focused on this specific topic and exposing scams, but I think you’re missing the bigger picture: regular people don't actually care about any of that. People play the lottery and blow money on things where they know there is virtually zero chance of seeing a return. All they care about is whether there is even a slim chance that what they put in comes back as a larger amount; that’s all the information they need. If you told them to invest money in soap bubbles with the hope of selling them for more before they pop, they’d do it. So, I’m not sure why you think your writing will deter people from investing in cryptocurrency. Do you honestly believe they’ll walk away because of moral concerns or the risk of losing money? Because in my view, neither of those factors will stop them.

As for the forum, it surprises me that every few months some shocked citizen pops up asking why the moderation is so biased. A forum follows the ideology of its leadership, and naturally, they have no interest in allowing certain posts, threads, or even entire subforums—like religion or alternative views—to exist in any meaningful way.

My focus is on disinformation. It is not on the irrational behavior of people when it comes to spending their money. The latter doesn't concern me in the slightest.

And regarding that last point. For heaven's sake, if they want to show their ideological bias, they should just be upfront about it on the official forums and call it a day. Instead, they pretend to be neutral and cite principles when it suits them, but the moment it doesn't, they start swinging the stick.*

*For instance, I post a link to show the administration how things really are, and they immediately come down on me with the stick. Apparently, it somehow violates the rules of this PDF. I don't know how, but fine, no problem. However, I am raising this issue specifically for that purpose, and I haven't received a single response from anyone in months. That is the actual problem. These are double standards driven by an ideology or whatever else.

Aha, I see where you're coming from! So, what kind of response are you actually looking for here? If someone just replied, "Yeah, you're right, but we're doing it our way anyway," would that even satisfy you? Or are you just sharing your thoughts without expecting anything specific? Honestly, I feel like most people—especially those actually putting skin in the game—already realize everything you're saying is true, though they might still argue over how crypto compares to traditional cash in terms of security and all that fun stuff!

If this were a fair forum, everyone would get a chance, but sometimes it feels like certain threads are only kept open so people can mock anyone who disagrees! Isn't it funny how the dissenters often end up being much more logical and coherent than the crowd, only to get shut down for it? And don't even get me started on some of those moderators who ban people so transparently and naively; I honestly can't tell if they even realize how obvious they're being!

The fact that your link and post were nuked so incredibly fast makes me wonder if there's something fishy going on behind the scenes here... 🙂

Sharing an opinion is perfectly fine. Posting it more than once? Sure, that's fine too.
But if you think you can derail entire discussions by relentlessly shoving that same opinion down everyone's throats, expect consequences.

Linking back to your own blog post under the guise of "clarifying" the nonsense you keep spewing is next-level audacity. And then playing the victim, circling back to link the same stupidity while questioning why your posts were deleted? It’s like the whole world has conspired against you, you pathetic little truth-seeker. LOLz.

You’re exhausting, you’ve clearly lost touch with reality and people who don't even follow cryptocurrency, so just beat it. Go write on your precious blog.
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Donna Doyle2 said:Aha, okay. So what kind of response or reaction would you actually want? If someone wrote to you, "You're right, but we're going to keep doing things our way regardless," would that satisfy you? Or are you just posting your opinions without any specific goal in mind? Honestly, I think most people realize that what you're saying is true, especially those who actually invest; the only real debate left is comparing it to fiat currency (like how much more secure cash is compared to crypto, etc.).

Regarding the forum, it would be fair, but sometimes I feel like they allow certain topics just so they can mock and ridicule anyone with a different opinion. However, it often happens that those dissenters turn out to be smarter and more coherent than the people agreeing with the status quo, and then they get shut down for it. Some moderators punish dissenters in such a naive and transparent way that I'm not even sure if they understand what they're doing.

They deleted your link/post instantly, which seems suspicious to me. 🙂

No, I would simply want them to respond to my appeal. I suppose I am asking for too much.

As for everything else: It isn't about whether people know what I'm writing is true. It's about the fact that they repeatedly spread misinformation—outright lies—on this forum. They know what they are writing isn't true, yet they persistently repeat these falsehoods. Then you explain it to them in a different way, and they go quiet for a moment. But after some time, the same story starts all over again. And in the end, I'm the one who ends up being blamed because I insist on the truth. The motives of those spreading disinformation and lies are clear to me—they've already profited from the scheme, there's no profit left for them personally, so they are forced to promote the scheme as some sort of revolution to attract new investors to bring in more capital. But I cannot grasp the motives of the moderators and administrators. My god, I can't even have an open, critical discussion on Reddit about something that is an obvious investment scam. I am not allowed to criticize the scheme run by an anonymous individual or group hiding behind the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto. It is a phenomenon I cannot understand. Especially since they pretend to follow the mainstream everywhere else, where, for example, the Wall Street Journal publishes this:

Why bitcoin is worse than a Madoff-style Ponzi scheme

But go ahead, try mentioning what the Wall Street Journal published on Reddit, and the moderator will suspend you immediately.

Casey Bennett said:Sharing your opinion is fine. Doing it a few times is fine.
But destroying discussions by constantly forcing that opinion on others carries consequences.

And linking to your own blog post as a "clarification" for the nonsense you keep barking about is next-level rudeness. Then playing the victim, while linking to the same stupidity again and questioning why posts were deleted. It's like everyone has conspired against you, the poor fighter for truth. LOLz

You are exhausting. You've become a massive headache for people who don't even follow cryptocurrency. Just move on. Go write on your blog.
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This isn't my blog. It’s just a single-article landing page, much like how Satoshi Nakamoto published his article regarding Bitcoin.

As for your comments—calling me "exhausting" or saying I've "lost my mind"—those are just emotional outbursts on your part. They have nothing to do with the topic at hand, my grievance, or the reality of the situation. If we're talking about expressing emotions, then let me be clear: crypto enthusiasts on this PDF platform are incredibly exhausting. Their constant propagation of falsehoods is becoming unbearable. There, I've expressed my emotions too.

And another thing... you mentioned "imposing opinions." 🤣 What opinions? These are facts, not opinions. I am stating facts, nothing more. Once you enter a scheme based on capital inflow, you can't recoup anything unless new investors provide fresh liquidity. That is a fact. It is an investment scam. Calling it "imposing" is merely a subjective impression. When someone persistently ignores the facts, they naturally perceive them as being imposed upon them.

Casey Bennett said:Look, having an opinion is fine. Posting it a few times? Sure, whatever.
But if you're gonna hijack every single thread just to shove that opinion down everyone's throat, expect some pushback.

And dropping a link to your own blog post as if it’s some "clarification" for the nonsense you keep barking about is next-level rude. Then you play the victim, linking back to the same garbage and questioning why things got deleted. It’s like the whole world is conspiring against you, you poor little truth-seeker. LOLz

You’re exhausting. You really think you're better than everyone else, especially people who don't even follow cryptocurrency. Just beat it. Go write your little blog somewhere else.
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+ if he’s biased toward crypto—which I'm pretty sure he is—then he's straight up breaking Reddit rules too.

Larry Walker24 said:plus if he holds any stake in cryptocurrency, which I suspect he does, then that would also be a violation of the site rules.

By that logic, my complaint is also a rule violation because I’m complaining about cryptocurrency. So, if I received a payout in crypt and now mentioning the word "crypt" on Reddit constitutes breaking the rules, we have a problem. This kind of speech control you're trying to impose wouldn't even make Stalin blush. Just out of curiosity: did you perhaps buy some fake Bitcoin? Did you fall for a scam?

Alex Edwards4 said:Then my complaint about crypto is also breaking the rules, right? I got flagged for talking about cryptocurrency, and now if I mention the word "crypto" here on Reddit, I'm violating the site's terms. This kind of speech control you're trying to pull... honestly, even Stalin wouldn't be embarrassed by it. Just curious, though: did you maybe buy some fake Bitcoin? Or are you deep into some pyramid scheme?

you clearly haven't read the rules

even someone in Nice would tell you that