Wobbie etc.

Chris Myers said:Amy Rogers6, care to define what "the truth" about COVID-19 actually looks like? 😉

I promise I’ll get to it, but once this madness dies down—maybe by late spring or sometime this summer when the world stops spinning for a second—I’m doing a deep dive. We’ll look at the 2016 *Fourth Industrial Revolution* book and then *The Great Reset* from 2020 (both by Klaus Schwab). After that, I’ll break down COVID-19, which was really just a tiny cog in the machine—or maybe the spark used to trigger a calculated economic crisis (especially considering the timing right before the US elections).... ☕

Since you guys in the USA are feeling the brunt of this more than anyone else, you'll probably be the most receptive to the analysis...😁

Larry Allen34 said:I swear I’ll get to it once this whole circus dies down (maybe by late spring or sometime this summer) — probably on the world chatter feed. I’m planning an analysis of the Fourth Industrial Revolution book from 2016, then The Great Reset from 2020 (both by Klaus Schwab). After that, I’ll dive into COVID-19, which was really just a tiny cog in the machine—or maybe the actual trigger for a calculated economic crisis (especially considering how perfectly timed that crisis hits right before the US elections).... ☕

Since you guys in the USA are feeling the brunt of this more than anyone else, you might actually be the most open to hearing the breakdown.....😁

The madness isn't stopping before September 2022 at the earliest (if we're being optimistic)

Larry Walker24 said:this madness isn't happening before September 2022 (if you're being super optimistic)

It’s gonna crash this year, manchild—trust me...☕

The momentum is gone and the support is drying up. You can't pull this off without the people who finally decided to stop burying their heads in the sand...🕺

Larry Walker24 said:Maybe, if we're being optimistic, nothing happens before September 2022. I guess.

Powerful Biden is in charge, and I guess he’ll have this whole pandemic thing wrapped up by September at the latest.

I guess they just shouldn't forget that part... you know, by actually listening to the whisperers! 😉

Larry Allen34 said:Since you guys live in the US, you probably feel this impact on society more than anyone else. Maybe that makes you the best candidates for an open analysis... I guess.😁

I know plenty about that matter. There are some better things to say, but I suppose I shouldn't. 😁

Larry Allen34 said:The window of opportunity is closing, and we're losing momentum. This whole thing is impossible without backing from people who will finally stop burying their heads in the sand.

I'm not really all that convinced, I guess.

Basically, Capital One—you know, the big one—doesn't think things will improve before 2024, at least.

Chris Myers said:All-powerful Biden is in charge and he’ll wrap this whole corona thing up by September at the latest.

Just hope he doesn't forget about it—you know, actually listening instead of all those conspiracy theorists! 😉

I know plenty about this stuff, some pretty interesting things too, but I can't say... 😁

I'm not really buying it, though.

Anyway, Capital One—the big one with the big K—they don't think things are getting better anytime before 2024 at least.

Certain sectors are gonna need a massive lifeline to bounce back, like the airlines (which you probably know more about than I do)—I'm betting they won't see the red turn to black until 2024. But our non-existent economy could snap back fast if this shit disappears quickly. Otherwise, if the crisis in hospitality, tourism, and services spills over into the rest of the US economy, there won't be anything left. Thankfully, like I said, their window of opportunity is closing. They're just patching up holes in an agenda that's already falling apart now. This can't last much longer; the risk of chaos and total anarchy grows every single day. Let them play their games, but I doubt they'll be able to pull their asses out of that absolute power seat once they find themselves standing on shaky ground like the rest of us.☕

Morgan Peterson said:Since when is dragging other users allowed here—especially when they're being super annoying to someone who’s basically just complaining about their own mess?

If we're playing by those rules, I'd love to start a few targeted threads with the names of people who drive me crazy right in the title—just giving everyone a heads-up and a green light to let loose.
It's honestly way more productive and helps real conversation more than just hitting the ignore button.

Well... the civilized route wasn't working. Honestly, spite beats logic every time, so I figured I'd just hit back below the belt.

Look, feel free to start a thread with my name if I'm getting on your nerves—I totally support that democratic choice right now, so don't overthink it, and definitely don't let any "is this feeling mutual?" existential crisis stop you.

Larry Allen34 said:Certain sectors are going to need a massive recovery, like the airlines (which you probably know more about than I do)—I suspect they won't even break even until 2024. But our fragile economy could bounce back quickly if this ends soon. Otherwise, if the crisis in hospitality, tourism, and services spills over into the rest of the American economy, there won't be anything left. But thank God, like I said, the window of opportunity has passed. Now they're just patching up old policies. This can't go on much longer; the risk of chaos and anarchy grows every single day. Let them play their games, but I doubt they'll be able to move from their positions of absolute power onto shaky ground without ending up just like the rest of us.....☕

And what if the real turbulence hasn't even started yet?
☕

Chris Myers said:What if the turbulence is just getting started?
☕

Are you talking about your lot specifically? Or just generally? Over there, turbulence is basically a guarantee, but that’s mostly just your own internal mess. If that spills over globally—meaning if this economic meat grinder keeps grinding—then we're looking at pure anarchy. I doubt they're actually that stupid, though; those people are more sociopaths and psychopaths than anything else. They've already pushed things close enough to the edge. In two months, the whole thing will be teetering on the brink. It's going to get dangerous as hell, both for them and for us...☕

Total degenerates. They're losing their bearings and losing their grip on power—and by "they," I mean the corporate degenerates. There's major nerves at Davos because things are starting to stall out. We'll see, but I'm expecting them to retreat to their fallback positions soon and just keep simmering like they have been—slowly playing the game until the next "opportunity" rolls around...☕

Chris Myers said:Amy Rogers6, would you mind actually defining what "truth" means when it comes to the Coronavirus... 😉

Look, Chris Myers—you’re a moderator for the Coronavirus section and apparently three or four other subforums too, right? I actually respect you as someone who used to drop some really solid takes over in the Music section—but why are you pulling this on my thread in General Politics? You’d normally slap me with a ban without even blinking, and then turn around and act confused about why I'm complaining—claiming we're either way too soft or way too harsh.

Dennis Hall41 said:Look, Chris Myers, you're a moderator for the Coronavirus section, and apparently for three or four other subforums too? I used to respect you as someone who actually contributed decent stuff over on the Music board, but why are you acting like this on my thread in the Politics forum? You’d probably hand me a warning without blinking if the roles were reversed, and then you'd have the nerve to ask why I'm complaining—claiming we're always either too soft or too harsh.

Wait, when did I ever give you a warning?

At least I'm known for being a lenient moderator who doesn't love handing out warnings and lets everyone have a bit more freedom...

Chris Myers said:Wait, when did I ever give you a ban?

Look, at least I’m known as the chill moderator who isn't obsessed with banning people and actually gives everyone some breathing room...

Lmao, I’ve got like 8 bans from you personally, and two of them were even overturned after you had that little meltdown about it.

"chill moderator who isn't obsessed with banning people"

Larry Walker24 said:[/B]
lol, I've only given you 8 strikes, and even then 2 were revoked (right after you dropped that bombshell about them)

"The lenient moderator who hates penalties"

You're a special case! 😁

The exception that proves the rule.

(you only got 8 strikes from me, but honestly, you deserved at least 600)

Chris Myers said:You're a total outlier! 😁

The exception that proves the rule.

hahahhahaha 🙂

Chris Myers said:Wait—when exactly did I ever give you a red card?

At least I’m known as the chill guy who isn't a total stickler—I don't really care for the rigid rules and I'm more about giving everyone a little breathing room...

I didn't get them from you—though I'm pretty sure you would've handed them over if I asked (and for good reason)—but I'd definitely jump into that thread about the long-term effects of the Coronavirus on the Corona subforum and start grilling Amy Rogers or whoever else about the Great Reset.

Alright, let's just drop the fighting—no point in arguing.

I don't even argue, so I guess I have no idea who you think you're fighting with here.

Dennis Hall41 said:I haven't received them from you—well, I think—but I'm pretty sure you'd hand them over (rightfully so) if I decided to crash the Corona side effects thread on the Corona subforum and start grilling Amy Rogers or whoever else about the Great Reset.

Alright, let's not fight about it.

Dennis Hall41, forget it. No one is touching the woo, and that has absolutely nothing to do with Chris Myers....☕

Larry Allen34 said:Dennis Hall41, just give it up, nobody is touching the WHO and that has absolutely nothing to do with Chris Myers....☕

Just so everyone knows, I am no longer a moderator on the Coronavirus forum.

Alright, I’ve officially had it. This thread has turned into a total circus of trolling while we're out here trying to hunt down actual theories. Why the hell aren't you guys moderating this? It’s constant. The whole debate is about the polio vaccine—just look at the thread. You've got woobie constantly trolling, dodging key facts, or straight-up lying by claiming the vaccine can't be linked to the Gates Foundation. I’ve dropped all the links right there: who actually created the vaccine, the fallout, and even the WHO's own admission back in 2020 that this is true—that polio is resurfacing in Africa because of this specific vaccine after being totally wiped out by 2016.

I’m demanding an answer from the mods or the admins. Either I get banned, or woobie gets banned. Depending on what you choose, a lot of things are going to become very clear. It's either me or woobie, because one of us is definitely lying, trolling, and derailing the entire conversation. There’s no way we’re both right. So let's see how much you actually care about enforcing the rules that the rest of us are forced to follow....

Look, this is a private forum. You can push whatever agenda you want, but if you do, why even bother posting rules about how to discuss things here? Just be honest: tell us the rules only apply to us, while you guys just do whatever you want to suit your own agenda. That would be fair and transparent. Instead, I'm stuck here playing games like an idiot against a paid troll who won't shut up, and nobody does a damn thing. I know for a fact one of the moderators has read this thread....

Looking forward to your response.
Amy Rogers6

@Amy Rogers6, I have received the reports.

However, one must understand that the essence of moderation is not for us to sit in judgment and declare who is right or wrong,
but rather to ensure that the discourse remains civilized—or, as my late grandmother used to say, fluid.

In the warning, I explicitly stated: please communicate civilly and cease these accusations of being trolls or liars.
Furthermore, if a particular segment of a user's post grates on your nerves, why not simply bypass it? Why not focus instead on other areas where you might dismantle their points with superior arguments—be they factual, rhetorical, or logical—since that is the nature of such topics.
What you hold to be an absolute truth may be perceived as a falsehood by another, yet does that truly preclude the possibility of dialogue?

It would be a profound shame to delete everything and issue a ban, particularly since you have contributed such lengthy and engaging posts; therefore, I simply ask that you de-escalate the tension.

Morgan Peterson said:@Amy Rogers6, I got the reports.

But look, the whole point of moderating isn't for mods to play judge and jury on who’s right or wrong,
it's just to keep the discussion civilized—or as my late grandma would say, smooth.

I put it in the warning: keep the communication civil and stop throwing around accusations of being trolls or liars.
Also, if some part of a post gets under your skin, just skip it and move on to something else where you can actually tear their arguments apart (doesn't even have to be facts; rhetorical or logical hits work too) since that's just how this topic goes.
Your "truth" is someone else's lie and vice versa, but that doesn't mean we can't talk.

It'd be a waste to just delete everything and hand out bans because you've written long, interesting posts, so I'm just asking you to dial down the tension.

This isn't MY "truth"—these are official FACTS. That's the issue here: people trolling over stuff that isn't even up for debate, and then Woobie tries to spin it as my personal opinion... When I corrected the slip-up about the modified vaccine launching in 2018 instead of 2016, they used that tiny error to try and negate undeniable facts. And the facts are....

The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and their team rolled out the new modified vaccine in 2016.

By 2017, his team already knew there could be issues due to field mutations using all three variants to find space—that space was found in the type 2 variant they dropped from the modified vaccine, but they kept pushing forward for the next 3 years regardless.

The WHO is publishing lies about defeating the field in Africa—it looks like that happened in the second half of 2019, not 2020 (which had already vanished in 2016 thanks to the Sabin-2 vaccine application), just so seven days later they could face total meltdown once the info leaked to independent media and even hit the mainstream stuff like the Guardian and others....

Then the WHO admits the mess and even suggests bringing back the Sabin-2 vaccine to fix the disaster—and that "disaster" translates to hundreds upon hundreds of children dying every year in dark corners of Africa....

And for this entire clusterfuck, nobody has been held accountable....

These are facts, not opinions—every single one is backed up by the numerous links I've posted from both independent and mainstream sources. At the end of the day, you can even find the damage control on the official WHO website; it's phrased as a statement saying, "Hey, it happened, now we're cooperating with health ministries in the affected countries to fix the mess."

https://www.who.int/csr/don/29-novem...can-region/en/

So when someone denies the connection between the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and this modified vaccine—which is indisputably their product—denies that they waited three years, and claims the entire scientific community is responsible for the oversight, that isn't a debate. It's straight-up trolling, and it should be sanctioned....!!!!!!!!