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Morgan Peterson Morgan Peterson Member
44 messages
joined Jan 2023
#41 ·
Larry Allen34 said:This isn't "my truth"—these are official FACTS—and that is precisely where the issue lies, when people resort to trolling something that shouldn't even be up for debate, all while Woobie tries to frame my position as merely a personal opinion. I corrected my own slip-up regarding whether the modified vaccine was rolled out in 2016 or 2018, yet that minor correction is being weaponized to dismiss undeniable realities. And the reality is this...

The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and their team introduced a new modified vaccine back in 2016.

Since 2017, his team has been aware of potential complications stemming from field mutations, where the virus utilizes all three variants to find an opening—an opening it found in the type 2 strain, which they excluded from the modified vaccine, yet they continued pushing forward for the next three years regardless.

The WHO is publishing false claims about having conquered polio in Africa—it appears the supposed victory happened in the latter half of 2019, not 2020 (a strain that had already vanished in 2016 due to the application of the Sabin-2 vaccine). Just seven days after those reports, there was a massive damage-control fallout once the information leaked through independent media outlets and eventually reached mainstream giants like the Guardian and others.

Only then did the WHO admit to the mess, even suggesting they might reconsider the Sabin-2 vaccine just to fix the disaster they created—a disaster that, in plain English, translates to hundreds upon hundreds of children dying every single year in the depths of Africa.

And for this entire catastrophe? Not a single soul has been held accountable.

These are facts, not mere perspectives; every single one of these points is backed by the numerous links I’ve provided from both independent and mainstream sources. Ultimately, you can even find the evidence of this "damage control" on the official WHO website itself, though naturally, it's phrased as a formal statement saying, "this happened, and now we are cooperating with the health ministries of the affected countries to rectify the situation."

https://www.who.int/csr/don/29-novem...can-region/en/

So, when someone denies the connection between the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and this modified vaccine—which is indisputably their product—or denies that we waited three years, or claims the entire scientific community is responsible for the oversight, that isn't a debate. It is pure, unadulterated trolling, and it really ought to be sanctioned!

Alright, I hear you, and I do remember—though the details are a bit hazy—that there was indeed some kind of scandal involving that polio vaccine.

However, I still struggle with the idea that we should punish someone for trolling if all they are doing is offering a different interpretation of the events.
By that logic, anyone who writes that they don't want to be vaccinated, or doesn't want their children vaccinated, because they have a fear—whether rational or perceived—of vaccines altering DNA, should be punished as a troll. To me, that simply isn't fair.
People have every right to express their opinions, their fears, and even their misconceptions.
hollowwalker24 hollowwalker24 Member
26 messages
joined Mar 2020
#42 ·
Looks like ego is still pushing their agenda—Amy Rogers just snagged 500 points:

So, Woobie spins and lies—not an issue, I guess.

Amy Rogers backs her post up with a link from WHO, calls Woobie a liar and a troll—boom, 500 points for "Insulting forum members."

Also, I’m noticing everyone is getting handed out cards and bans for repeating posts or for "arguing with points (which don't necessarily have to be factual, they can just be rhetorical or logical)":

And, as McAucliffe put it:

McAucliffe said:Since you lack actual arguments for your lies, you just pulled a post from another forum, went totally off-topic, and kept trolling and insulting without ever actually proving your fabrications...

Not to mention now you're playing victim and arguing about insults when you unceremoniously dragged my family into this and implied domestic violence—which isn't just an insult, it's straight-up libel...


But I guess that wasn't a problem?

Finally, let's look at the consistency of moderators who hand out punishments for things like—"you're posting too much, take a break."

Here are just a few threads from the Coronavirus forum:

Searching for reasons or conspiracy theories

Top poster, Woobie, 900 posts:

Masks

Top poster, Woobie, 641 posts:

Are you going to get vaccinated against SARS-CoV-2 with any of the available shots?

Top poster, Woobie, 654 posts:

The situation in America:

Top poster, Woobie, 353 posts:

Store experiences during the COVID era

Top poster, Woobie, 286 posts:

The situation in America, Vol. II

Top poster, Woobie, 297 posts:

Regarding the moderation of the Coronavirus forum

Top poster, Woobie, 182 posts:

Protests against the mandates:

Top poster, Woobie, 62 posts:

Are the mandates pointless?

Top poster, Woobie, 24 posts:

It’s not just every single topic on the subforum—just some of the top ones. I'm pretty sure there are plenty more threads where this guy is either the most active or basically just terrorizing everyone.

Anyway, the harassment has gotten to the point where Woobie is actually going into meme threads to comment on and "correct" people's memes (some of his posts even got nuked):

Also, something interesting I haven't heard back on—Amy Rogers gets 500 points that expire on 02/25/2021.

Meanwhile, the same moderator—while also deleting my posts whenever I try to share studies—gives me 100 points that expire on 04/19/2021.

Like I said, other than that, I don't have any active strikes or points, and I can't even reply to the thread anymore:
boldcanyon14 boldcanyon14 Member
13 messages
joined Sep 2014
#43 ·
Kudos to you, hollowwalker24. You can pretty much count on nobody ever replying to your posts again. 🙂

What ego and that whole crew are pulling is straight-up criminal.

I’ve officially checked out of that Coronavirus forum. I just don't have the patience for it anymore, and honestly, neither do a lot of other people. Let them stay in their little bubble and talk only to people who agree with them—because hey, I guess that's what a forum is actually for, right?
hollowwalker24 hollowwalker24 Member
26 messages
joined Mar 2020
#44 ·
boldcanyon14 said:Kudos, hollowwalker24—you can pretty much expect zero replies to your posts from here on out. 🙂

What ego and the rest of that crew are pulling is basically criminal.

I’ve checked out of that Coronavirus forum entirely—just don't have the patience for it anymore—and I know plenty of others feel the same way. Let them stay in their little bubble and talk only to people who agree with them; I guess that's what forums are for, right?

At this rate, I'm just waiting for them to scrub this post too, just like they do with my other stuff, and maybe "gift" me another ban.
Grace Ramos Grace Ramos Member
45 messages
joined Jul 2013
#45 ·
It’s probably best if you just get out of here.
hollowwalker24 hollowwalker24 Member
26 messages
joined Mar 2020
#46 ·
Jeremy Brooks87 said:It’s probably best to just step away.

I don't even bother posting on the Coronavirus forum anymore—they just delete my stuff regularly and hand out warnings now.

I've got at least five separate threads going over in the General Discussion subforum where I'm complaining about how they moderate that place:

http://www.forum.com/showthread.php?t=1208085

http://www.forum.com/showthread.php?t=1209451

http://www.forum.com/showthread.php?t=1209451

http://www.forum.com/showthread.php?t=1219839

http://www.forum.com/showthread.php?t=1232345

Most of those were closed right after my last reply got nuked, or they have zero replies (can't even post in the last one), while Quark had an entire thread wiped just for complaining—even though what he said was spot on. I guess it makes you wonder why this subforum even exists if nothing ever changes despite all the complaints.

And yeah, just to reiterate, I actually got a few DMs from—supposedly—the heads of the site:

https://abload.de/img/aaa1kxkby.jpg

http://www.forum.com/showgroups.php

They basically say they agree with the complaints and how things are running, but they don't want to rock the boat to keep "peace in the house"—or maybe they've just given up on trying to run a forum like this.
Morgan Peterson Morgan Peterson Member
44 messages
joined Jan 2023
#47 ·
Hilderik didn't receive a formal strike until after I personally cautioned him to maintain a civilized tone in the no-points section, followed by yet another warning I issued directly within the thread.
Everything is laid bare in the discussion because I made a point not to delete any posts; given how much information and detail they contain, I simply didn't want to erase all that effort.

We also communicated privately, where I clarified that we cannot penalize users merely for expressing their opinions, regardless of how misguided or incorrect you might find those views to be.
The reality is that he was warned multiple times to settle down and cease the insults, yet he chose to persist.

It begs the question—exactly how many warnings does one need to receive before facing a heavy strike or a permanent ban?
We aren't in kindergarten here, gentlemen.

Woobie received a strike very shortly thereafter following a report, but unlike some of you, he actually accepts the decision, corrects his behavior, and moves on.
Adam Collins4 Adam Collins4 Regular
502 messages
joined Apr 2013
#48 ·
Morgan Peterson said:Hilderik didn't get flagged until after I warned him to keep things civil—which was done via a warning without points—and then another warning I posted directly in the thread.
Everything is right there in the thread; I haven't deleted anything because the posts are long and packed with info, and I didn't want to erase all that work.

We also talked here, where I made it clear that we can't penalize people just for expressing an opinion, even if you guys think they're wrong.
Basically, he was warned several times to chill out and stop being insulting, but he just kept going.

Rhetorical question here—how many warnings does someone actually need before they hit a major strike or a ban?
We aren't in kindergarten, guys.

Woobie got flagged pretty quickly after him following a report, but unlike some of you, he actually takes it, fixes his act, and moves on.

If I were to drop ten or more examples here showing how Woobie *didn't* fix his behavior—instead choosing to keep up the childish mockery while hiding behind Ego and ZK—would you vanish from the thread like ZK did when he tried to spin things and dodge facts, or would you just stay silent like Ego?

So, let me get this straight: I get docked 45 points for calling him rude because I called out his nonsense regarding robotics... meanwhile, he spends his time obsessing over my mental state and insinuating that I'm hitting my wife—and gets nothing.

Having an opinion isn't the issue—it's when someone acts arrogant and condescending while feeling untouchable under moderator protection.

He pulled the same stunt in politics, asserting his views without a single shred of fact... then he blew up. He did the same thing in other subforums... and blew up again.

Moving on...

Gingerina... starts arguing about my brain and drags my family into the debate—that's 10 points.

I'll say it again: I get 45 points for being "rude" and "arrogant" simply because I told an arrogant guy he was being rude.

Just let me know when you decide to start debating based on actual facts and evidence instead of just peddling empty platitudes.
Tyler Vaughn7 Tyler Vaughn7 Active Member
59 messages
joined Feb 2023
#49 ·
Morgan Peterson said:Hilderik didn't get a formal strike until after I warned him to keep his communication civil—which was a warning without points—and then issued one more verbal warning directly on the thread.
Everything is laid out right there in the thread because I haven't deleted any posts; they’re long and packed with info, and I didn't want to wipe out all that work.

We also talked here, where I explained that we can't penalize people just for expressing an opinion, no matter how wrong you guys think it is.
Basically, he was warned several times to calm down and stop being insulting, but he just kept going.

Just a rhetorical question: how many warnings does someone actually need before they hit a heavy strike or a ban?
We aren't in kindergarten, guys.

Woobie received a strike pretty quickly after him following a report, but unlike some of you, he actually accepts it, fixes his behavior, and moves on.

All this guy does is kill the conversation. Honestly, he annoys me so much that I don't even bother reading anymore. Let him have his fun, I guess, while he spends his time targeting other users.

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