Canada discussion: Strict border control and entry rules

@ Scott Miller5

I’ve been following your stuff regarding Australia, and honestly, I thought you were a decent guy—until I ran into this absolute nonsense of a post.

Seriously though, could you please explain how we’re supposed to add links when all the threads about moving to Canada are locked? That’s why us "spoiled" folks are complaining...

Look, credit where it's due—your posts about Australia are solid, and it’s obvious you’re speaking from actual experience. But maybe don't try to weigh in on Canada when it’s pretty clear from just one post that you don't really know the deal there... if you actually want to join the conversation, try putting in the work to read more of our posts first. Take a look at the threads where our "complaining" is actually happening, and you might eventually reach some conclusions yourself. Jumping into a debate based on reading maybe one or two posts is just pointless.

Perhaps one could simply send a document containing all the relevant links regarding the amendments directly to a moderator via private message, and they can then append it to the locked thread. This would allow one specific thread to remain organized with all necessary data and links for easy navigation, while the other thread serves solely for casual chat and those inevitable questions that have already been answered a million times despite the provided resources.

I have no desire to judge anyone based on a mere couple of posts, but if the rule is clearly stated—that there is to be no debating the moderator guidelines in that PDF—and yet people insist on being defiant, acting out with attitudes like, "You don't know who I am, don't try to teach me discipline," only to rack up warnings and continue their nonsense here, what else can you call that if not entitlement? In this country, we'd call that a bunch of soft cocks; if it weren't pathetic, it would actually be laughable.

Do not worry, I have also racked up my fair share of warnings within the diaspora, though never for the reasons most of you do. Besides, I couldn't care less; I'm not even sure why I bother getting involved. Consider this a promise: I am done.

Why should I bother wasting my precious time and energy sending links to moderators? They might look at them, or they might not—and even if they do, there’s no guarantee anything will actually get posted to the thread after the review process... there are just way too many "maybes" involved to justify the effort. Besides, I've started to get the impression that keeping us users informed isn't exactly their top priority

@ ambermason16

Just because I haven't been posting much doesn't mean I'm not reading everything.
Closing those two sub-forums about Canada really rubbed me the wrong way, so I had to say something.
Besides, I have every right to back up people who see things my way.

When I complain about a moderator, I’m talking about Henry Moore2.
She already nuked my previous post—and an entire thread asking about sending money via PayPal—and I didn't even make a scene then. But when members are encouraged to move over to Facebook? Suddenly, nothing gets deleted.

I live in Canada. I care about what's being said about Canada. It wasn't the repetitive questions for help that got under my skin; it was the moderator's rigidness.
I can get the first part... but the last bit? Not at all.

jadedrifter2 said:The guy replied to my post but skipped half my questions—so naturally, I asked why he wasn't answering all of them.

If those kinds of posts are such a headache, just delete them. Besides, her question *did* get an answer, and honestly, those types of free riders would be ignored by most users on locked threads anyway... I don't see the issue. Personally, I just ignore them and move on.

As for going to Facebook—I don't even know how to react to that suggestion. I'm actually a bit shocked by that approach... is the goal here to foster actual quality discussion, or are you trying to drive people away?? A forum isn't just the admins and moderators; a forum is its users.

The longer I spend on this forum, the more I get the impression that the only thing that matters to you is inflating the member count. Whether people are inactive or permanently banned doesn't seem to matter—I've noticed we can't even delete our own profiles—as long as the database grows to attract advertisers, the actual core purpose of a forum like this becomes totally irrelevant.

And I'm still waiting for an explanation as to why Canada is being treated differently compared to Australia, New Zealand, and everywhere else. The reasons you give for locking threads could apply to almost any other discussion regarding emigration to those countries.

Why not just have two separate threads for Canada? One could be a casual chat for people who are already there—where the admins and mods claim everyone is just complaining about immigrants—and the other could be strictly about the emigration process itself. Then the users can decide which one they want to participate in... and I guarantee there would be way more activity in the emigration thread.

That’s the one thing I actually agree with here—letting everyone pick their own lane. For those of us who moved away a while ago, we don't really want to hear the same old stories over and over, and for people who are still dreaming of leaving, they can find their answers in that other dedicated thread.
The only catch is that the second thread would need some super strict moderation to make sure things don't get repetitive, or turn into a massive shouting match with insults and all that mess.
The real question is whether the mods even have the energy, the desire, or the actual free time to handle it. It’s totally up to them, and look—I get it. Reading through endless walls of text every single day just to hand out warnings and police behavior is exhausting, so I won't judge them if they decide it's not worth the hassle.

I laid out my whole point again today over in the Canada thread, and honestly, that’s where I’m leaving it for now.
If things don't start moving along, maybe we can try a different angle later on.

I’m honestly not sure which thread this belongs in—this one seems pretty much dead, and the other one is strictly off-limits for questions about moving abroad—so I’ll just ask the mods to move this wherever they think it fits best (and maybe give me a heads-up when it happens)

My question is about these new regulations regarding the LMO. From what I can gather, an LMO is now required for everyone, though if I remember the old rules correctly, you couldn't really get by without one anyway... 😕
Clearly, I’ve missed something here, so I’d appreciate it if anyone in the know could walk me through it—what’s actually changed? What exactly is being restricted now that wasn't before?
Based on everything I've been reading, it doesn't look like they're trying to make it easier to move to the States—if anything, it feels like they're doing the exact opposite.

😕

I'm guessing you're asking this because Henry Moore2 and I mentioned in the Canada social thread that we aren't discussing emigration there.

That specific thread was really intended as a space for people already living in Canada—you know, for those who have their own local topics, day-to-day issues, or interests that don't involve visas, LMOs, and things like that.

If you want to talk about emigration or LMOs, you should probably head over to the Canada - Beginner's Guide thread. It was just opened specifically for questions regarding moving to Canada and the whole process. You might also want to check out some of the older, closed threads like Employment in Canada or Skilled worker - Canada.

Since we're currently reorganizing the diaspora section within the emigration sub-forum, I’d ask for a little patience. Once that's done, it’ll be much clearer where everything belongs and which threads cover what. 😉 There's a good chance some of those older threads will be reopened, too. It’s just a process that won't happen overnight, so maybe just hang tight for a bit. Until then, the best place for your interests would be the Beginner's Guide 😉

What’s actually the difference between "diaspora" and "emigration"?

thanks 🙂

Rebecca Peterson54 said:What’s actually the difference between "diaspora" and "emigration"?

thanks 🙂

From what I gather, "diaspora" refers to people already living abroad—it's mostly meant for them. But "emigration"? That's for folks looking to move away who need the lowdown on how to actually make it happen... 🤔

Thanks, brightpuma, for getting back to me—you really hit the nail on the head with that explanation.

I get that, but I'm asking about the actual nuance between the terms. I'm not asking for the definitions the moderators decided to tuck under "diaspora" versus "emigration."

well, that’s really just how the terminology works... if you move from America to live in Australia, you’re an emigrant, but then your kids who get born there later on—they're part of the diaspora, you know what I mean?

🤔 Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. It doesn't really matter. Is it just me, or are "diaspora" and "emigration" basically the exact same thing? Perhaps 🤷

Rebecca Peterson54 said:🤔 Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. It doesn't really matter. Is it just me, or are "diaspora" and "emigration" basically the exact same thing? Perhaps 🤷

They aren't. 😉

jadedrifter2 put it perfectly.

brightpuma said:They aren't. 😉

jadedrifter2 put it perfectly.

Not quite. 😁 Based on that logic, I should consider myself part of the diaspora since I was born in Boston, and one of my parents is from America. But I’ve always felt like Boston was my true home 🙂. Now, that same parent actually has family from Boston too, so shouldn't they feel like part of the diaspora from Boston? They don't. If I go back just a few more generations, who would even know who belongs to the emigration, who is the diaspora, or who is local?

🤣

🤦 I honestly can't tell if you're just playing dumb or if you genuinely aren't following what's being said here—I'm starting to suspect you're just trolling for the sake of it...☕

No, I don't think you quite caught my drift.

Anyway, it doesn't matter. I was just trying to see if there were any real differences or similarities between those two terms, nothing more.

Cheers, 🙂