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Biased modes in the "Economy" PDF

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Thomas Patel6 Thomas Patel6 MemberOP
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joined Jun 2018
#1 ·
Just look at how the "real estate prices" thread is being handled over on the "Economy" PDF. The mods have basically gone full biased mode to protect one specific side of the debate.

And honestly? It’s not even because that side has better points. It feels like they're doing it for some other reason that only the mods understand.

It ended up getting to the point where the people actually making sense got slapped with bans and warnings, while the other side—the ones just trolling without any actual substance—got off totally scot-free.

Basically, it's a textbook example of biased and unfair moderation. They've pretty much chased away anyone who doesn't suck up to their favorites.
Gerald Chavez7 Gerald Chavez7 Active Member
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joined Apr 2021
#2 ·
You've got it completely wrong.

The posts haven't vanished—everything is still right where it belongs, and you can clearly see how this whole discussion has played out over the last few weeks. For instance, you only picked up a single warning—and that was just for questioning the mods.

silentridge3 simply doesn't know how to make a point without getting all worked up and snapping at people—which is exactly why they racked up two or three warnings and ended up with a brief one-day ban.
Thomas Patel6 Thomas Patel6 MemberOP
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#3 ·
Gerald Chavez7 said:You're dead wrong.

The posts are still there, everything is crystal clear, and you can easily see how this whole debate has played out over the last few weeks. For instance, you only got one single warning, and that was just for calling out the mods.

silentridge3 just doesn't know how to make a point without getting all worked up and snapping at people, so he ended up getting two or three warnings, which led to a light one-day ban...


I mean, obviously, I didn't expect you to admit to being in a biased mode.

As far as I'm concerned—yeah, it's true, I was commenting on, well, criticizing the moderation. I just couldn't sit there anymore watching you guys play favorites and unfairly punish the other side (like banning silentridge3).

And yeah, maybe silentridge3 lost his cool a little at the end, but honestly, that’s not even surprising considering how you guys shamelessly tolerated velvetmaker3 and Frank Knight trolling until they were blue in the face.

Anyway, silentridge3 is gone from the thread now, which is obvious to everyone and clearly what you were aiming for.
Gerald Chavez7 Gerald Chavez7 Active Member
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#4 ·
Honestly, this whole persecution complex says enough about your complaint 😁

What do you mean "we"? I’ve been lurking and posting in this thread since before you even made an account—I was already being lumped in with the doom-and-gloom crowd predicting falling real estate prices... But hey, I can't help it if I notice posts that completely lack logic or basic common sense.
Thomas Patel6 Thomas Patel6 MemberOP
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#5 ·
Gerald Chavez7 said:I mean, this whole persecution mania thing pretty much proves your point about complaining.😁

What do you mean "you guys"? I was reading this thread and posting here way before you even signed up for this forum, and I've always been lumped in with the doom-and-gloomers regarding real estate prices... But whatever, I just can't ignore posts that have zero logic or common sense.


What persecution mania?

Oh, I get it. So anyone who dares to push back against your moderation is just suffering from some kind of paranoia.🙄

What do you mean "you guys?" By "you guys," I'm talking about the moderators over at "CNN." Since it says there are six of you, I'm assuming you moderate together. But hey, if that's not how it works and you're just solo-modding this specific PDF—aka this thread—then feel free to rename it "The Biased biased mode in the CNN PDF."

Our posts (not just the ones from silentridge3 and me, but plenty of other users on this thread who mostly agreed with us) actually made sense. Or, I guess, they at least had more logic in them than the crap posted by velvetmaker3, Frank Knight, Comcast, and those types.

But fine, why bother arguing with a "moderator" who completely missed the fact that those three were trolling—which was obvious from a mile away?

Yet, somehow, you managed to spot and punish the frustration caused by that trolling instantly.
silentridge3 silentridge3 Active Member
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#6 ·
Gerald Chavez7 said:I mean, silentridge3 just doesn't seem capable of making a point without getting all worked up and snapping at everyone, which I guess is why he ended up picking up a couple of warnings and getting hit with that brief one-day ban...

The real issue here, if you ask me, is how inconsistent the moderation actually is.

If it really matters to you, I could probably dig up ten instances where those same people were dogpiling on me for every single time they claim I’ve "snapped" at them.

But the thing is, since you apparently didn't "see" their outbursts, nothing ever gets done.

Take the "real estate prices" thread over in the Economy section—it’s basically been hijacked by a small group of obvious lobbyists who act like they're working for big real estate developers, just constantly pushing the interests of investors and sellers every single day. Their whole goal seems to be using this supposedly independent forum, this supposed space for "average Americans" to debate, to convince everyone that real estate prices are perfectly fine and, heaven forbid, actually going to climb even higher. It feels like they're just trying to bait people into buying property at these ridiculous prices. And honestly, besides the fact that their entire strategy is basically just pure trolling, they frequently go out of their way to insult anyone who disagrees with them.

I’m genuinely curious if you’ve noticed that blatant disrespect, or if you’ve actually stepped in to penalize it... has any of them actually faced a warning or a ban?

As for velvetmaker3, I think he earned a ban a long time ago... did you at least give him a yellow card?
velvetmaker3 velvetmaker3 Regular
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#7 ·
silentridge3 said:The real issue here is the inconsistent moderation.

If you really want to go there, I could probably find ten times more instances of those same people jumping down my throat than I ever jump at them.

The problem is that since you didn't "see" their attacks, you don't punish them.

The "real estate prices" thread over in the Economy section has basically been hijacked by a handful of obvious corporate lobbyists who spend every single day protecting the interests of investors—specifically real estate sellers. Their whole goal on what’s supposed to be an independent forum for "regular citizens" is to manufacture the idea that real estate prices are perfectly fine and just going to climb even higher. They're trying to bait people into buying property at these ridiculous prices. On top of that, their entire way of operating boils down to pure trolling, and they aren't above straight-up insulting anyone who disagrees with them.

I’m curious if you’ve actually noticed these insults or if you’ve done anything about them. Has anyone from that group actually received a warning or a ban?

velvetmaker3 should have been banned a long time ago... Did you at least give him a yellow card?

This is a rare pile of bullshit, but honestly, it fits the pattern of that specific thread.
It’s all because we push back against flawed arguments, and that theory about using CNN as a demographic metric is absolute shit of the year. No one is going to play nice with someone who crazily floods a thread with garbage theories. Now we’re being labeled "corporate lobbyists" and whatever else, I guess—part of some grand conspiracy of the wealthy, probably. 🤦

If anyone is actually trolling there, it’s just you, and you’re doing it with fanatic intensity. Communicating with you is impossible. You don't see, you don't hear, and you clearly don't want to see or hear anything else; it's total
blindness and absolute fanaticism. It's hard to take you seriously when you're getting a pass for your own behavior over there.

And yeah, I got a warning too, just responding to one of your countless provocations. It’s hard to hold back when someone is constantly insulting my intelligence and the intelligence of everyone else in the discussion.
Thomas Patel6 Thomas Patel6 MemberOP
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joined Jun 2018
#8 ·
velvetmaker3 said:This is a rare pile of pure bullshit, but honestly, it fits the pattern we've seen on this topic.
It’s all because we’re calling out garbage arguments, and claiming > is some kind of demographic metric? That is straight-up shit of the year. No one is going to play nice with you while you're frantically flooding the thread with nonsense. Now suddenly we're "entrepreneur lobbyists" and whatever other nonsense—I guess we're just part of some massive billionaire conspiracy now.🤦

If there’s anyone trolling here with turbo-fanatic energy, it’s definitely you. Talking to you is basically impossible. You don't see, you don't hear, and you clearly don't want to. It's just total
and absolute fanatic blindness. Honestly, people have been way too patient with you given how you act over there.

And yeah, I got a warning too, which was totally deserved after one of your many provocations. It’s hard not to snap when someone is constantly insulting my intelligence and everyone else's in the debate.


It is actually unbelievable how rude you are.

You kept accusing us of saying things we never even said. We warned you a hundred times that those weren't our words and asked you to prove it by actually quoting us, but you couldn't. Not only did you fail to quote anything (because it didn't exist), but you just stubbornly and rudely kept insisting we made those claims without a shred of evidence.

If that isn't shameless trolling, then I don't know what is.

If the mods on that PDF were actually worth anything, you'd be banned for at least a month for trolling like this.

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