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Moderation on PDF: Alternatives to the Darwinian Edge III

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Participants Roger Cooper91rustydrifter10neoneagle93Noah DiazMichelle Evansbriskbison55Christian Howard2Brenda Gonzalez12Peter PetersonElizabeth JacksonGregory Ramirez2Matthew Castillo5Linda Moore51Donna Miller4Matthew Harris5Rachel Price6
Linda Moore51 Linda Moore51 Newcomer
8 messages
joined Mar 2017
#41 ·
Ethan Barrett22 said:...
I am not providing medical advice, I have never claimed to do so, and I can prove that easily enough.
...

So how exactly would you characterize this:
Quote : Abraham Lincoln said:...

Apple seeds and cancer. What are they hiding from us?
Laetrile (which some people also call vitamin B17) is an ingredient found in the pits of apples, apricots, peaches, plums, and similar fruits.
According to certain studies, eating about 10 raw seeds a day could lead to someone being cured of cancer within a few months. 😉

This is nothing more than straight-up leading people toward complete nonsense. There isn't a single link to any actual research cited anywhere, but if you take a decent look at the site, it becomes obvious that there are "plenty" of advertisements for "alternative products"😁.
To me, it’s incredibly telling when people link to sites where, alongside these "magical tips" for cancer treatment, you find constant ads for "miracle products."
Brenda Gonzalez12 Brenda Gonzalez12 Member
45 messages
joined Mar 2017
#42 ·
Since it seems like nobody is actually looking at the reports, I’ve decided to just start dropping them here, one by one!

Look, it isn't that people aren't noticing the blatant trolling, the off-topic rambling, the nonsense, or the straight-up rule-breaking. It's definitely happening.

The thread in question is Who actually built the Pyramids in Giza... The Facts?
Peter Peterson Peter Peterson Member
14 messages
joined Jan 2019
#43 ·
Hardline chemo advocates are doing massive damage here—because look, if a clean, healthy diet works, great. If it doesn't work, nothing does. But let's be real: it *does* work, which is exactly why it's called a "healthy" diet in the first place. By ignoring that, these oncologists are essentially placing a crushing moral burden on their own consciences.
Gregory Ramirez2 Gregory Ramirez2 Active Member
72 messages
joined Aug 2012
#44 ·
This forum is slowly but surely heading straight toward...

Instead of the mods actually stepping in on the Alternative subreddit—because honestly, I’ve never seen such a total mess on any forum before—the trolling and constant bickering is just bleeding over here too...
neoneagle93 neoneagle93 Newcomer
7 messages
joined Nov 2010
#45 ·
How much longer is this going to drag on, gentlemen?! How much longer?!
Elizabeth Jackson Elizabeth Jackson Member
38 messages
joined Nov 2012
#46 ·
Quote : Abraham Lincoln
Ethan Brooks59 said:Given that a few folks in this thread have actually demonstrated some real expertise—and even gone so far as to explicitly state their level of education—it seems we might finally have a baseline for the quality of discussion here.I suppose it might be possible to actually gauge someone's relevance within a specific topic—you know, to really measure just how much expertise they bring to the table in any given field.

Brenda Gonzalez12 — I have a very serious question for you. Are you actually joking right now, or are you being completely serious?
Could you please take another look at the part I bolded in your previous post? I really think it’s worth giving that specific section a second thought before we move forward with this line of reasoning.
They said... I mean, how much schooling did they actually go through? It’s worth considering just how deep their training goes before they're thrown into the mix. I guess you have to wonder if the credentials truly match the level of expertise we're seeing. Maybe, but honestly, I find myself questioning the actual depth of their education. 🤦
😂

Quote : Abraham Lincoln
Ethan Brooks59 said:Given the way you responded—specifically the tone you took when commenting on that— I suppose you’re suggesting I’m some sort of self-taught contrarian? Or maybe just someone who likes to stir the pot without having a formal degree in it? I guess I can see why you might think that, though I wouldn't go quite so far. I tend to prefer a more measured approach, even if my conclusions occasionally ruffle a few feathers. I think I caught a glimpse of something somewhere recently—it might have been in an article or perhaps just a passing thought I picked up online. I can't quite put my finger on exactly where I saw it, but it stuck with me.

If you were actually aiming for an insult there—well, mission accomplished, I suppose. You definitely hit the mark.
It hasn't been received.

Quote : Abraham Lincoln
Ethan Brooks59 said:If everyone actually followed the forum rules to the letter, I suppose you wouldn't be posting here anymore.

I’ll give you my word on that. What exactly is it you think I’m trying to achieve? Or rather, what do you suppose my end goal is here? I guess it depends on how you look at it, but I suspect we might be operating on entirely different wavelengths. I suppose there isn't much to say here, really. It feels like we're just hovering in that space where nothing has quite settled yet. Maybe I'm overthinking it, but it seems like we’re just waiting for something to actually happen., It’s not like I would have been banned back then, and honestly, I haven't been banned once since I first joined this forum either.

Quote : Abraham Lincoln
Ethan Brooks59 said:Just because the site moderators are trying to distance themselves from certain comments doesn't give Elizabeth Jackson a free pass to claim that eating literal garbage is going to cure people. It’s one thing to have an opinion, but it's quite another to peddle nonsense like that as medical advice.

Have you noticed that every single one of your ad hominem attacks follows the exact same pattern as Linda Moore51's? Are you really going to take someone else's words and twist them until they’re completely unrecognizable? It feels like you're pushing things to such an extreme.
I honestly can't tell if that's just a result of some faulty memory or if there was some actual bad intention behind it. Maybe it's just a glitch, but I guess it's hard to say for sure.
Honestly, I don't think this does you any favors, and frankly, I doubt you'll see any actual results from it. It’s not like anyone is going to miss it—everyone can clearly see exactly what I wrote.

Quote : Abraham Lincoln
Ethan Brooks59 said:It’s already been laid out and explained to you twice, so I suppose you might want to scroll up a bit and actually read what was said.

If you actually had any evidence to back that up, I imagine you would have provided a link by now.

Ethan Brooks59 said:The whole point here is discussing alternative ways of approaching things, not debating methods that have a one-in-ten-thousand success rate and then insisting they are the definitive solution.

It is somewhat interesting that regarding this specific claim, you haven't provided a single concrete link to substantiate anything you're saying.

Ethan Brooks59 said:Just because someone believes drinking urine will save their life doesn't mean every person dealing with cancer treatment needs to follow suit.

That sounds like another complete fabrication.
Or perhaps you’re capable of linking that directly from the cancer treatment thread?

Come on, be a pal, just post the link! 🙂

Ethan Brooks59 said:To you, I'm just some insignificant person hiding behind a screen typing nonsense... which you seem to be proving more and more. Honestly, your little crusade against me is entirely irrelevant to my life because you simply don't matter to me at all.

It’s funny how much I supposedly don't matter, considering how much time and energy you spend reading my posts and replying to them so incredibly promptly.
If you had spent even a tenth of that time looking for the link to support your attacks, maybe someone would actually take you seriously.

Ethan Brooks59 said:Unfortunately for you, I know you lack any formal medical training.
And you admitted that yourself.

No, I didn't say that.
Tell me, Brenda, do you possess anything other than insinuations, twisting people's words, and making false claims that you can't actually prove?
Look, Brenda Gonzalez12, this is what I actually said:
Ethan Barrett22 said:1. You have no idea whether I have any actual credentials or not.

Understood?

Ethan Brooks59 said:And within this thread, you aren't even attempting medical treatment; you're just peddling nonsense that you suggest others should rely on as a last resort in their darkest hours. Honestly, you're worse than the people who would choose euthanasia if they were facing cancer treatment—at least those people are upfront about it.

Good grief, Brenda, now we've moved into full-blown ad hominem territory... I truly feel for anyone who processes things or communicates this way... I sincerely hope you find a way to resolve whatever issue is driving you to act like this.

Ethan Brooks59 said:Right, so you don't actually provide treatment, you just encourage people to follow your lead and end it all....

Ah, so now I am indeed encouraging. 😁
Just a moment ago, you were singing my praises, claiming I was providing medical aid and quoting legal statutes in an attempt to convince the moderators that I should be banned because my posts don't suit your personal tastes. 🤦
You’ve already provided more than enough material to embarrass yourself.

Ethan Brooks59 said:So you're admitting that everything you write here is just a joke, whereas the other thread actually contains factual information?

What I am writing here isn't a joke; I was simply trying to participate in a discussion regarding moderation, and you responded by attacking my character instead of my arguments, so I'm merely defending myself.
If anything is a joke, it's the claims you've made about me, especially since you can't even produce a link to back them up.

Gregory Ramirez2 said:This forum is steadily heading toward...

Instead of the authorities stepping in on the Alternative PDF—because I’ve honestly never seen such a complete mess on any other forum—the trolling and bickering are just spilling over here too...

Exactly. It’s quite interesting how Brenda Gonzalez12 keeps attacking me constantly, yet hasn't provided a single link to substantiate my supposed "crimes."🙂
But even then, they didn't react to a single word regarding this extreme level of trolling, which I am specifically calling the moderators' attention to (assuming they ever actually look at this).

It’s just endless ad hominem attacks at this point... now I see Donna Miller4 is next in line... I suppose Brenda Gonzalez12 is lucky to have so much free time to obsess over people she doesn't particularly like.
I get the feeling that anyone who dares to disagree would simply be removed from the forum by Brenda Gonzalez12 if they had their way.🤣

So, just as a final note to my dear Brenda Gonzalez12, who clearly finds my posts uninteresting and finds me entirely inconsequential... 😁
Brenda Gonzalez12, this thread is about Moderation on the Alternative-On the Edge of Science III PDF, not about me, nor Donna Miller4, nor the other users.
I am giving you a very serious warning regarding this. (pay close attention to the bold text)
If you continue to harass me without any coherent argument, I'm giving you fair warning that I will be citing this rule.

If you have an issue or simply want to keep arguing on a personal level, please don't clutter the forum or drift into off-topic territory
; I have no intention of entertaining that anymore.
- If you want to debate anything with me personally, please send me a private message so we don't exhaust the rest of the community.
- If you truly believe I am violating the rules, please send a private message to the super-moderator or the admin and explain exactly what the problem is.
And you know perfectly well that you'll need to back that up with actual links.
- If you think I am violating U.S. laws, please contact the appropriate federal authorities.

I wish you the best of luck.

All the best! 🙂

By the way, you have the exact same writing style and behavior as Linda Moore51 who I put on my ignore list a long time ago.
Linda Moore51 Linda Moore51 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2017
#47 ·
Here is yet another tragicomic post from a guy who clearly loves writing in technicolor. It honestly crossed my mind that maybe Elizabeth Jackson truly doesn't grasp what people are actually saying to him.
Personally, I couldn't care less about how someone chooses to eat, what their personal philosophy is, or whether they believe in pseudoscience or not, but it is absolutely wrong to write about medical recoveries and then use obscure websites, YouTube videos, and other absolute garbage as "proof."
And here we have Elizabeth Jackson advising people on exactly what and how they should eat to cure themselves of tumors. I’ve already linked his post where he recommends consuming about ten different types of raw seeds as a way to achieve cancer treatment in just a few months.
Furthermore, Elizabeth Jackson links to total nonsense that even elementary schoolers know isn't true. For instance, he links to and writes posts claiming that carrot juice is virtually identical to human blood at a molecular level.
I’m sorry, but to make a claim like that, you have to be either incredibly dim-witted or you simply live your life by linking to such trash.
These are just a few examples that illustrate the exact same pattern of behavior.
Whenever he is called out on this and cornered to the point where he can't refute such idiocy, he’ll just claim he's being persecuted. That’s exactly what Elizabeth Jackson did for a while when he wrote that biljka112 was persecuting him, which is obviously a lie.
Anyone who points out his mistakes is "persecuting" him. And if that tactic fails, Elizabeth Jackson just puts you on his ignore list, which only serves to prove how little actual argument he has to defend what he writes or links to.
Brenda Gonzalez12 Brenda Gonzalez12 Member
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joined Mar 2017
#48 ·
Ethan Barrett22 said:Brenda Gonzalez12 - okay, serious question here - are you actually joking or being dead serious?
Just take another look at what I bolded in your post and really think about what you're putting out there...
They actually said exactly how educated they were?????

Honestly, Elizabeth Jackson, when you go on about how schools and scientific institutions are just breeding grounds for evil, it’s pretty easy to get an idea of just how much time you've spent in them—and by extension, how much education you actually have.
You don't need to brag; sometimes just criticizing something tells everyone everything they need to know.

Ethan Barrett22 said:I promise you that whatever you want me to be, it's not like I would have been banned back then, just like I haven't been once since I joined this forum.

The thing is, people simply aren't reporting you (we aren't all total pushovers like some folks here claim to be), they're just letting you spout nonsense because they enjoy watching you pile on the stupidity until someone eventually shuts you down with a single sentence. And since you don't have any actual evidence to back yourself up, you just live off the praise from those few characters who suck up to you for their own reasons.

Ethan Barrett22 said:Do you notice that every single one of your ad hominem attacks follows the exact same pattern as Linda Moore51's - distorting someone else's statement to an extreme degree?
I can't tell if it's a bad memory or just bad intentions.
It doesn't do you any favors, nor does it help you achieve anything, because everyone can see exactly what I wrote.

Maybe Linda Moore51 and I just think alike, because for years now, along with a couple of others, we've been deconstructing and exposing the nonsense from these "alternative theory" types who have as much to do with actual astronomy as a goldfish does with flying.

Ethan Barrett22 said:If you had something to prove it, you would have linked it.

I did link it, Elizabeth Jackson! You're just pivoting the conversation now because you realized you messed up big time. That's why you aren't acting as bold with your advice like you used to.

Ethan Barrett22 said:It’s pretty funny how for this specific claim you didn't actually link anything concrete to back up what you're saying.

Actually, it's not me, it's you! I was the one asking you for an exact number of people cured by those (or someone else's) "miracle" methods. Because look, if 10,000 people pass away every year and you can only name ONE single case of a cure, then my friend, you're really stretching the truth. And how many links did you provide? ZERO!! Am I the one who needs to prove it to you? Just go read some local obituaries and see how many people are dying...

Ethan Barrett22 said:We can all clearly see how unimportant and irrelevant I am, considering you spend so much precious time and energy reading my posts and replying to them so quickly and faithfully.
If you had spent even just a tenth of that time linking the stuff you're attacking me over, maybe someone would actually take you seriously.

Oh man, you wouldn't believe how little effort I actually put into responding to you. It doesn't even take any thought—it's just that easy!
Besides, from where I'm sitting, it looks like I've become a bit of an obsession for you, probably because I hit a nerve that you haven't been able to address with anything other than ad hominem attacks instead of answering my direct questions.

Ethan Barrett22 said:Do you know anything at all, Brenda Gonzalez12, besides making insinuations, twisting people's words, and throwing out false claims that you can't even support?
Look, dear Brenda, this is what I actually said:

The things you call "insinuations" and "twisting facts" are actually things that are incredibly easy to confirm or debunk with just one simple sentence.
So, why don't you just come out and say it: are you a doctor by profession? I'll go on the record right now and say you aren't. That isn't an insinuation; it's a fact, so go ahead and try to disprove it.

Ethan Barrett22 said:Aha, so now I *am* inciting. 😁
In your last post, you were singing about how I provide medical care and quoting legal statutes, trying to convince the moderators that they should execute me just because what I write isn't to your liking. 🤦
You’ve already got a mountain of material to be embarrassed by!

Whoops, looks like I hit the nail right on the head! My whole point was that "anyone who doesn't have the required medical credentials is practicing medicine or providing other types of medical assistance..."
I'm pretty sure you don't have that first bolded part, so feel free to prove me wrong—but the second bolded part covers "giving advice," too. So, Elizabeth Jackson... this isn't an invitation to start "firing away"; it's just a suggestion that you take a step back and let the moderators follow the forum rules if they find any violations.

Ethan Barrett22 said:What I’m writing here isn't a joke; I was just trying to join the discussion about moderation, but then you started attacking me personally instead of using actual arguments, so I had to respond.

Oh, it is definitely a joke, and it’s clearly not sinking in. You’re messing around with people's lives by giving advice that has crossed the line from helpful suggestions into straight-up trashing established medical procedures—whatever you might think of them—and telling people it's "normal" to stop following them.
That’s why this is a thread about moderation and not a thread about cancer treatment.

Ethan Barrett22 said:There it is, ad hominem attacks everywhere... I guess it's time for Donna Miller to step in... Poor Brenda Gonzalez12, having so much free time to deal with people he doesn't even like.
Brenda Gonzalez12 would probably love it if anyone who thinks he's being ridiculous was just kicked off the forum.🤣

Donna Miller started throwing around nonsense and going totally off-topic so much that she can't even tell what she's writing or where she's posting when she's in one of her moods. But hey, that's her problem, and it's the problem of the moderators who aren't doing their jobs.
Personally, I’ve stepped away from posting in all the threads until this pile of junk gets cleared out and proper moderation starts again. Because honestly, there's no point in arguing with someone who's clearly not in their right mind.

Ethan Barrett22 said:Fine, just one last quick message to my dear friend Brenda Gonzalez12, who finds my posts completely uninteresting and doesn't care about me at all... 😁
Brenda Gonzalez12, this is the Moderation thread on the Alternative Science PDF, not a thread about me, or Donna Miller, or any other forum members.
I am seriously warning you about this. (pay attention to the bold text)
If you keep hounding me without making a single coherent argument,I give you my word that I’m going to hold you to this rule.

Look, if you have an issue or just want to keep this back-and-forth going on a personal level, please don't clutter up the board or drag us into off-topic territory
—I really don't have the energy for that anymore.
- If you want to hash things out with me privately, just shoot me a DM so we aren't bothering everyone else on the forum.
- On the other hand, if you truly believe I'm breaking the rules, please message a supermoderator or the admin directly and explain exactly what the issue is.
And you know as well as I do that you'll need to back that up with actual links.
- And hey, if you think I'm actually violating any U.S. federal laws, feel free to contact the appropriate authorities.

Thanks! I just realized I was absolutely right all along...👍
All these warnings and threats just prove to me that besides attacking people personally, you don't actually have any arguments to debunk the facts.

Nobody is stopping you from putting me on your "ignore" list. Go right ahead! Just don't think that means the rest of us won't see every single one of your replies whenever we call out your nonsense.

Ethan Barrett22 said:By the way, you act and write exactly like Linda Moore51 who has been on my ignore list for ages.

Wait, how are you seeing her posts and comments if she's been on your ignore list "for ages"? It seems like you can't help but peek at what she says... and jump in to respond.

And if you're implying that Linda Moore51 and I are the same person or some kind of clones, I have to say, you're making yourself look pretty silly. First off, she's much better looking than me, and I'm definitely heavier than she is!
Secondly, she deals with stuff that blows my mind, but I tackle topics she hasn't even touched. And thirdly, if you just take a quick look through the threads, you'll easily see that we don't always advocate for the same ideas. Though, we do agree on one thing: that "alternative" needs to be replaced by the real Alternative.
Roger Cooper91 Roger Cooper91 MemberOP
24 messages
joined Jun 2014
#49 ·
Ethan Brooks59 said:Donna Miller4 started acting out with absolute nonsense by hijacking threads and off-topic rambling so much that they eventually lose track of what they’re even typing or where they’re posting in their delirious state. But honestly? That's their own damn problem, and a problem for the moderators who are nowhere to be found.
Personally, I’m stepping away from all these threads until this mountain of garbage gets wiped clean and actual moderation resumes. Why bother arguing with someone who isn't even lucid? It's pointless.

Isse, I just skip over whatever that guy is doing across the entire subforum. 🤦
neoneagle93 neoneagle93 Newcomer
7 messages
joined Nov 2010
#50 ·
It’s honestly nauseating to watch this guy operate, especially when he's allowed to get away with everything he does.
Donna Miller4 Donna Miller4 Member
16 messages
joined Dec 2021
#51 ·
neoneagle93 said:It’s honestly disgusting what this guy does and how he gets away with all of it.

Just stumbled onto this and realized you’ve been busy doing... whatever this is... instead of actually contributing anything intelligent to the threads. And honestly, what is there even to say when you and your buddy Brenda Gonzalez12 are out here stubbornly insisting that MORE ISN'T WATER? How are you supposed to have a real conversation with people who have zero clue what they're talking about? They try to patch up their own massive gaps in knowledge and basic decency by insulting and belittling regular users. You want to know why I’ve never reported anyone or ever hit that report button? Because I don't need to. Some people are just miserable and decide to take it out on others behind their backs right here. Give me a break—if what you're doing is "disgusting," then let me tell you that you are actually making me sick right now.😁
neoneagle93 neoneagle93 Newcomer
7 messages
joined Nov 2010
#52 ·
Have you still not grasped what I mean when I say the ocean isn't just water?
If you want to understand the difference between the ocean and mere water, go ask someone from the California coast!
You need to realize this is primarily a linguistic distinction that carries immense weight for people who actually live by the sea.
It should be obvious to anyone that other differences exist too—which is exactly why you don't use seawater for cooking.
But clearly, to a "landlubber" like you, that nuance is totally irrelevant.

And then there's this thread...
This marks the third time now that we're debating the absolute lack of moderation on this alternative platform.
Your behavior and the fact that you break the rules without consequence are textbook examples of the problem.

The fact that you haven't reported anyone is your business; if you truly believe I'm breaking the rules, feel free to do it.
As for me, I’m going to keep reporting you whenever you violate them.
That isn't "tattling"—it's an attempt to get you to act like a civilized human being and follow the forum guidelines.
What you're doing right now is definitely not that.

Do you honestly believe your conduct on this forum is acceptable?!
Good grief...
Brenda Gonzalez12 Brenda Gonzalez12 Member
45 messages
joined Mar 2017
#53 ·
Donna Miller4, do you ever wonder why nobody upvotes your posts? Honestly, aside from the fact that there’s zero moderation here—making upvotes feel pretty much pointless anyway—it’s just because these threads are totally trashed by the absolute nonsense you post. I mean, claiming the Pyramids in Giza were painted by pufferfish, or trying to explain the sinking of the Titanic by talking about repairs on your junker of a car... only a dedicated troll would write stuff like that! I genuinely think instead of lecturing everyone else, you should just be embraced as an entertainer—basically a walking joke who exists just to post ridiculous things.
And please, stop trying to shove your "interpretations" of fresh water versus seawater down our throats; nobody asked for your take on it. People were simply pointing out that sea water and fresh water aren't the same thing because of their different properties, minerals, salt content, and density. But clearly, that’s flying right over your head because you just don't get it. You lack the knowledge, you don't understand those scientific properties, and you've probably never even heard of them. That's why you can't wrap your mind around it, so you try to act like people are telling you something else entirely. It’s just pure helplessness and ignorance on your part. You don't even read what people are saying properly—you respond in the wrong threads, you derail topics constantly without any consequences, and then you have the nerve to criticize others? You’ve honestly become a total laughingstock. A complete joke.
Matthew Harris5 Matthew Harris5 Member
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joined Aug 2018
#54 ·
Noah Diaz said:Finally, there’s a bit of clarity emerging on the fringes of science.

The two idiots acting like they own the place have been moved to the cooling rack, so things are finally starting to breathe again.

Kudos to the moderators.

THANKS 👍

You should probably thank them for not handing out bans for such massive trolling, too. ☕
Noah Diaz Noah Diaz Active Member
114 messages
joined Sep 2021
#55 ·
Matthew Harris5 said:And thanks for not punishing such massive trolling, too. ☕

I just want to extend my gratitude to the forum moderators for yet another 'stellar' post from the latest clone of the permabanned Haram.

Is my ultimate goal really to spend days pondering how to respond to some pathetic troll's mindless babbling?

.

As far as I’m concerned, you won't see me back here until you fix the moderation and allow for civilized discussion free from stalkers, trolls, and clones.

Maybe I'll see you all under better circumstances.

.
Brenda Gonzalez12 Brenda Gonzalez12 Member
45 messages
joined Mar 2017
#56 ·
Even better! Maybe then we can finally deal with those spam bots on NRZ who use dozens of clone accounts just to get fifty people onto their ignore lists, all while pumping out the exact same repetitive garbage:

"some insulting or shocked opening sentence that makes zero sense -> a stupid link-> followed by some "comment" that's barely three or four words long".

It’s completely pointless—no motive, no purpose, no reason at all. They’re just doing it for themselves, purely to pad their post counts, and it’s been allowed to slide for years without any real consequences.
Elizabeth Jackson Elizabeth Jackson Member
38 messages
joined Nov 2012
#57 ·
Quote : Abraham Lincoln
Matthew Harris5 said:And I suppose I should thank them for that, too—for letting this kind of massive trolling go completely unpunished. ☕

Or maybe something like this. It seems we’ve descended into nothing more than crude insults and cheap ad hominem attacks. Honestly, it's all a bit much, isn't it? I suppose when the actual arguments run dry, people tend to resort to attacking the person rather than the point being made. It's a messy way to handle a discussion, and frankly, it's beneath us. If you ask me, we’ve been seeing the exact same person dragging themselves through the alternatives subforum for three years now. It’s become a bit of a predictable loop, I suppose.

I almost completely lost track of this thread. Just a quick response for Brenda Gonzalez12.
I know exactly how Linda Moore51 writes—my memory is pretty sharp like that. That’s precisely why I’m noticing such strong parallels between your writing style and hers... or perhaps it’s just you?

As for everything else, we’ve really come to realize from your very first post here—something you seem to reiterate quite frequently—that your ultimate goal in life is simply to have this forum function exactly how you want it to, strictly according to your own personal convictions. At the same time, I guess you seem to be overlooking what this community is actually meant for and the rules we all agreed to follow.
I believe I’ve laid out my entire perspective on the matter, and regarding my own lack of standing in this situation, I did provide you with some fairly detailed guidance on how to pursue a legal remedy.

Wishing you nothing but the very best and a lifetime of great health. 👋
Linda Moore51 Linda Moore51 Newcomer
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joined Mar 2017
#58 ·
Noah Diaz said:...

As far as I'm concerned, you won't be seeing me around here anymore...

.

👍
Ethan Barrett22 said:...

I had almost completely forgotten about this thread, so let me just give a quick response to Brenda Gonzalez12.
I know exactly what Linda Moore51 is getting at because I have an incredible memory, and it’s precisely because of that that I can see the glaringly obvious connections between her writing style and yours... or is it just yours?
...

Elizabeth, the real issue here is that you simply don't grasp or understand what people are actually saying to you. That's your fundamental problem.

If you look at how things are currently playing out on the PDF alternative forums, it's blatantly obvious that everything is moving along quite smoothly even without heavy-handed moderation. In fact, by permanently banning Rory, things have finally settled down, which serves as a very clear indicator of who was actually responsible for all the chaos.
Matthew Harris5 Matthew Harris5 Member
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joined Aug 2018
#59 ·
Noah Diaz said:Just wanted to give a quick shout-out to the forum mods for yet another "stellar" post from the latest clone of that permanently banned Haram guy.

.

As far as I'm concerned, you won't see me back here until you actually fix the moderation and make it possible to have a civilized conversation without all the stalkers, trolls, and clones running rampant.

Maybe I'll see you guys when things improve.

.

... or so says the guy who’s been permabanned a hundred times and still makes it his life's mission to troll people about anthropogenic global warming.
Am I right, Yarlan Zeyu, and a whole bunch of other users (I really don't feel like digging through the archives right now)?
And what am I supposed to say to the rude, insulting trolling from someone who's been doing this exact thing on this forum for ten years? Just act like some persistent pest that nobody can shake.

Jerry White29 said:👍

Don't be such an optimist; he isn't going anywhere until you spray him with Permethrin.😁
Brenda Gonzalez12 Brenda Gonzalez12 Member
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joined Mar 2017
#60 ·
Ethan Barrett22 said:I almost completely lost track of this thread! Just a quick response for Brenda Gonzalez12.
I know exactly what Linda Moore51 is saying because my memory is actually pretty sharp. That’s why I keep noticing such strong similarities between your writing style and hers... or maybe it's just yours?

Your memory is clearly slipping since you aren't even posting in other threads. But hey, I have a suggestion—tell me if you're down. I’ll ask Nico directly if Linda Moore51 and I are clones. If we are, go ahead and ban me permanently. If we aren't, you'll post an apology in all the Alternative threads for making that claim. You'll shut down your little "clones" and stop hounding both of us. And most importantly, you'll stop posting stuff that can't be backed up by actual facts.
Sound like a plan?

Ethan Barrett22 said:As for everything else, we realized from your very first post here—something you keep repeating over and over—that your biggest goal in life is just having this forum run exactly how you want it to, according to your own beliefs. At the same time, you seem to forget what this forum is actually for and what its rules are.
I've already said everything I have to say about that, and regarding my own shortcomings, I even gave you some detailed pointers on how to handle things through the proper legal channels.

Regarding everything else, you're basically putting words in people's mouths. You love slapping labels on everyone else, yet you wrote this yourself:

"By the way, Brenda Gonzalez12, you have a whole different thread about cancer treatments elsewhere, so why don't you go express yourself there? You also have threads for alternative and conventional treatments, so feel free to talk about whatever interests you."


It’s pretty obvious that what actually bothers you is that this is a public forum where you're expected to actually back up your claims. How much you and Benny are willing to play that game has already been shown by your pathetic attempts to claim you're "saving lives" and "providing hope" to people.

Anyway, that's my two cents.

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