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The Lord of the Rings (1978)

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Frank Moore4 Frank Moore4 Active MemberOP
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The Lord of the Rings (1978)

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I'm not knowing if one would notice, but at 4:20 PM today on PBS 3, they're airing that 1978 animated version of The Lord of the Rings directed by Ralph Bakshi. I think the last time this popped up on PBS was, what, over a decade ago? Honestly, every single time it comes on, it’s such a blast to watch.

Just to refresh everyone's memory, this movie is a unique blend of animation and live-action footage that’s been rotoscoped. The plot actually covers all the major events from The Fellowship of the Ring plus about half of The Two Towers, wrapping everything up right after the big battle at Helm's Deep. It clocks in at 132 minutes. This version definitely left a mark on Peter Jackson, who even gave it a shout-out in one of the special features on The Fellowship of the Ring DVD.

Official synopsis from the PBS website:

The Lord of the Rings, an American animated film.

(THE LORD OF THE RINGS, 1978.)

So, picture this: at this massive blowout celebrating his 111th birthday back in his little hometown in The Shire, the Hobbit Bilbo Baggins (voiced by N. Bird) decides to hand over The Ring to his nephew Frodo (voiced by C. Guarda) and just heads out. Now, naturally, this leaves Frodo totally lost, but the wise wizard Gandalf (voiced by W. Squire) quickly figures out that they aren't dealing with some trinket—this is an incredibly powerful and dangerous relic from way back in the day. The thing about The Ring is that it’s got this corrupting energy that pulls the absolute worst traits out of people; it can only be used for evil, and anyone who holds onto it eventually turns into a greedy, selfish villain. To make matters worse, there are two other rings out there held by the Dark Lord Sauron, who’s lurking in Mordor. He’s teaming up with Gandalf's associate Saruman (voiced by F. Kerar) to try and get his hands on the third ring so he can basically take over all of Middle-earth. Because the stakes are that high, Frodo, Gandalf, and The Fellowship decide they have to set out on this epic, grueling journey to the heart of Mordor to destroy The Ring once and for all.

J.R.R. Tolkien’s legendary fantasy trilogy, The Lord of the Rings, is honestly in a league of its own. It’s this incredibly immersive piece of prose where the author built an insanely imaginative fairy-tale world from scratch. On one hand, you've got these noble Hobbits, determined knights, powerful wizards, brave elves, and courageous princesses; on the other, you're dealing with absolute madmen for rulers, terrifying monsters, and demonic forces. Tolkien's literary universe is just impossibly deep. He basically layered it using ancient Norse and Germanic sagas, mixed in all sorts of mythology, religious themes, classic folk tales, and his own heavy experiences serving in World War II.

To truly wrap your head around the entire Lord of the Rings trilogy, you have to look at what Tolkien was actually doing. He was this deeply conservative, nostalgic guy who missed the era when people actually took pride in working with their own two hands. He famously referred to his work as a fundamental religious and Catholic piece, and that's exactly why it hits so hard. To get the full picture, you have to lean into those core mythological and Christian motifs he woven throughout the story—things like the eternal struggle between good and evil, how humility ultimately crushes arrogance, and the complex relationship between death and immortality. It’s all built on themes of redemption, kindness, nobility, goodness, resurrection, justice, friendship, the willingness to sacrifice everything, and the power of free will.

Long before Peter Jackson masterfully brought The Lord of the Rings to life between 2001 and 2003—after years of speculation that directors like Stanley Kubrick or John Boorman might take a crack at it—the job was taken on by the talented animator Ralph Bakshi. He was the controversial guy behind Fritz the Cat and Heavy Traffic, known for being one of the first to bring X-rated animation into the mainstream. His version was high-energy and honestly pretty fun, riding the wave of the sci-fi boom sparked by the massive success of Lucas's Star Wars just a year prior. Bakshi decided to split the story into two parts, but because the film didn't exactly kill it at the box office, the project never actually got finished. Still, even though it’s incomplete, his adaptation of the first book and half of the second is a remarkably inventive piece of work, thanks to that cool mix of live-action footage and brilliant rotoscoped animation.

Voice Cast: Christopher Guard, William Squire, Michael Scholes, John Hurt, Simon Chandler, Dominic Guard, N. Bird, Michael Graham-Cox, Anthony Daniels, F. Kerar
Runtime: 128 min.
Screenplay: Peter S. Beage and Chris Conklin (based on the novels "The Fellowship of the Ring" and "The Two Towers" by J.R.R. Tolkien)
Director: Ralph Bakshi
Genre: Animated Adventure Fantasy

Just a quick heads-up: the synopsis over on PBS claims this movie was a total flop at the box office, but honestly, that’s just wrong. It actually pulled in $30.5 million in theaters against a $4 million budget.

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placidfox93 placidfox93 Newcomer
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#2 ·
Thanks 😁

I'm actually watching it right now... well, just having it on the TV 😉

I have this vivid memory of my mom renting this out at the video store back when I was a sick little kid. It’s such a brilliant animation, honestly; the visuals are stunning. It felt so surreal seeing them blend real people and actual landscapes into the animation—it was unlike anything else. I also remember thinking the Nazgûl in this version felt way more menacing than the ones you see in the movies 😲
Rachel Ortiz33 Rachel Ortiz33 Active Member
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#3 ·
I'm watching too, but this animation style is just hitting my eyes wrong, it's seriously grating on my nerves... I don't usually mind stuff like this, maybe I'm just wiped out
mistyotter35 mistyotter35 Active Member
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#4 ·
It is true that there is a massive discrepancy between these scenes and classic animation or rotoscoping, but then again, I suppose a brief respite from all these modern CGI cartoons—which have honestly become quite exhausting—is certainly within reach. 😁
Larry Walker24 Larry Walker24 Veteran
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#5 ·
Man, I remember watching that on TV like 20 years ago, and I swear I was terrified when those Black Riders showed up!

Personally, I think the cartoon is solid. You can tell Peter Jackson leaned on it pretty heavily, at least in the first movie of The Lord of the Rings. In some parts, I honestly had this feeling that the movie basically ripped the animation frame-for-frame.
Larry Walker24 Larry Walker24 Veteran
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#6 ·
No matter how much anyone claims otherwise, that movie was a total flop because people started saying The Lord of the Rings was just too complicated to adapt. If it actually worked, why wasn't an animated sequel ever even drawn up?
mistyotter35 mistyotter35 Active Member
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#7 ·
This particular film follows The Fellowship and The Two Towers. It seems they stretched out "The Fellowship," yet they essentially breezed through "The Two Towers." One might reasonably assume the same pacing would be applied to Return of the King, which is perhaps why they decided against further sequels. 😁
Furthermore, I suppose financial success wasn't necessarily a guaranteed green light for more installments everywhere.
Larry Walker24 Larry Walker24 Veteran
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mistyotter35 said:This particular film follows The Fellowship and The Two Towers. It seems they stretched out "The Fellowship," yet they essentially breezed through "The Two Towers." One might reasonably assume the same pacing would be applied to Return of the King, which is perhaps why they decided against further sequels. 😁
Furthermore, I suppose financial success wasn't necessarily a guaranteed green light for more installments everywhere.

😂

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Frank Moore4 Frank Moore4 Active MemberOP
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Larry Walker24 said:No matter how much anyone claims otherwise, that movie was a total flop because people started saying The Lord of the Rings was just too complicated to adapt. If it actually worked, why wasn't an animated sequel ever even drawn up?

Because the guys over at United Artists are cowards? 🤣

By the way, that attack on the Hornburg in the movie is still absolutely killer, even now. Especially when those orcs start chanting as they charge—it’s all like "Isengard aagaaaa, Isenagaaaaa-rddd, aaaaaaa Mordor, agagaaaa aaaaa Isengard." 😁

Regarding how much the characters look like they do in Peter Jackson's trilogy, I think they nailed Samwise Gamgee. In the cartoon, he's basically a spitting image of Sean Astin. 😬 And Theoden looks just like Max from Bipsic. That scene with him and Grim was a total LOL moment, honestly kind of reminds me of Max and Shek. 😁

And don't even get me started on Gandalf and those manic movements of his. 😂 😁
casualgull casualgull Member
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#10 ·
mistyotter35 said:It is true that there is a massive discrepancy between these scenes and classic animation or rotoscoping, but then again, I suppose a brief respite from all these modern CGI cartoons—which have honestly become quite exhausting—is certainly within reach. 😁

Exactly. +1

I'm pretty sure this movie even came out on Blu-ray; I know I have a copy somewhere. It's a must-watch. 🙂
Daniel Jackson29 Daniel Jackson29 Newcomer
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#11 ·
I personally hold this film responsible for my somewhat geeky obsession with the entire saga of The Lord of the Rings and everything surrounding it. It was truly a magnificent piece of cinema, especially during those formative years of my childhood.😁
I watched it with absolute intensity.😍
rustyorca13 rustyorca13 Member
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#12 ·
It's pretty interesting how they decided to skip over Tom Bombadil in the animation too.
Frank Moore4 Frank Moore4 Active MemberOP
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#13 ·
Bakshi's version of The Lord of the Rings is playing on PBS 2. Uruci right now, and they've got this scene where they're attacking Helm's Deep accompanied by some pretty cool singers. XD
Larry Walker24 Larry Walker24 Veteran
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#14 ·
I had no clue there was even a 1977 Hobbit cartoon out there

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWEm1v8ZmEw
Morgan Brown4 Morgan Brown4 Active Member
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#15 ·
Larry Walker24 said:No matter how much anyone claims otherwise, that movie was a total flop because people started saying The Lord of the Rings was just too complicated to adapt. If it actually worked, why wasn't an animated sequel ever even drawn up?

Well, they actually did make The Return of the King cartoon just a year later...
Larry Walker24 Larry Walker24 Veteran
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#16 ·
Heads up, there's an animated version of The Lord of the Rings airing tomorrow on PBS3 at 8:00 PM.
Larry Walker24 Larry Walker24 Veteran
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Morgan Brown4 said:Well, they actually did make The Return of the King cartoon just a year later...

first voice
Frank Moore4 Frank Moore4 Active MemberOP
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#18 ·
Larry Walker24 said:first voice

And then there's when you're just acting like some random ex-agent. 🤣🤣
Drew Sanchez82 Drew Sanchez82 Active Member
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#19 ·
I’m casting my vote first! 😁
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#20 ·
Larry Walker24 said:first voice

Supposedly it’s just way, way worse and feels more like a kids' movie

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