Posts being deleted again on the alternative forum

Ever since Gargamel took over, the moderation has been sharper than ever. Sure, they occasionally scrub my posts too, but I honestly don't mind—it’s refreshing to see that the little golden children of this forum aren't getting special treatment anymore.
Finally, the rules actually apply to everyone equally.

All this whining from them just proves one thing: they were used to playing on easy mode, and now they’ve suddenly hit a wall of reality.

I mean, I still have this nagging feeling that the mods might be biased toward certain people, but who knows? Maybe I haven't looked closely enough at the data yet.

Jason Grant said:Brenda Gonzalez12:
I’ve been thinking quite a bit about that whole discussion we had regarding the mysteries hidden deep beneath the earth. You know me—I can get a little carried away when I start spiraling down these rabbit holes! But seriously, looking back at what everyone was saying, it really makes you wonder if there's more to our history than the textbooks let on. I was reading through some of the points brought up by Jason Grant, and honestly, his perspective is pretty fascinating. It’s easy to get caught up in the mainstream view, but when you start questioning the established narrative, things get interesting fast. Then you have Peter Peterson chiming in, and he always brings such a grounded, skeptical energy to the table which I actually find super helpful. It keeps me from floating off into pure fantasy! And of course, Brenda Gonzalez12 always adds her own unique flavor to the mix, too. It feels like we're constantly hovering on the edge of discovering something massive. Whether it's ancient structures that defy explanation or lost civilizations buried under layers of sediment, there's just this palpable sense that we haven't even scratched the surface of what happened on this planet thousands of years ago. I mean, think about the sheer scale of it all! We walk over these potential wonders every single day without a second thought. Anyway, I don't want to ramble on forever (though I know I probably will), but I just wanted to share how much I've been chewing on this lately. It’s one of those topics that just stays with you, isn't it? I’d love to hear what the rest of you think. Are we looking at coincidences, or is there a much bigger puzzle waiting to be solved? Let's keep the conversation going!
What exactly were you trying to get at with that one?
How much of an expert am I at being a total jerk to people? Like, if I had to go after someone like the UN, for example?
Oh, we’ve seen this movie before! This is exactly what happens whenever you run out of actual points to make—you just fall back on that same old routine.

Just to kick things off here—are you someone’s lawyer or maybe some kind of clone? I'm only asking because you seem incredibly invested in this! Did I actually hit a nerve and nail the point?
On top of that, I have to say, the UN really stepped out of line in this post. They were clearly trying to "prove" a point, but they totally violated the rules by cherry-picking only the specific snippets that supported their argument while ignoring everything else. It’s just classic selective quoting!
Thirdly, if you just take his posts and mine and mash them together, you get this hilarious masterpiece where the UN basically contradicts itself within a single thread. He’s out here arguing two completely different points at once—it's like saying the sky is strictly blue, but then claiming stars are visible in a bright red sky. It’s pure logical nonsense, and honestly, I don't think he even realizes he's doing it! And look, I hate to call you out, but you’re playing this really convincing "I have no idea what's going on" act, even though you’ve been right in the thick of these debates. Meanwhile, we’re all just sitting here waiting for the UN to actually address even one of the countless questions thrown his way—specifically the ones regarding his own claims (which, let's be real, are pretty sparse since most of his posts are clearly just copy-pasted from other American forums and websites). If he wants to make an assertion, he just needs to show us the source so we can actually have a real discussion!
So, let's talk about the UN for a second!

As far as I'm concerned, even this post of yours is... Look, let's be real for a second—we've all been there. It’s that moment when a conversation stops being about the actual argument and just turns into a straight-up personal attack. You know the feeling? Instead of tackling the point someone made, they just go straight for the jugular and start insulting you personally. It's a classic ad hominem move, and honestly, it’s such a lazy way to debate. It's like playing a game of chess and, instead of moving your knight, you just decide to flip the table and yell at your opponent! It doesn't make their point any stronger; it just makes the whole discussion feel a little cheap and messy. I try my best to stay above the fray, but man, when people get personal, it can be tough not to feel a bit stung! Let's try to keep things focused on the ideas, shall we? It makes everything so much more productive! If you ask Gargamel, he’d probably tell you we're looking at it all wrong!

Look, you aren't even actually addressing the topic at hand—you’re just throwing out random comments to try and get attention!

Jason Grant said:Look, just to be clear: pointing something out isn't the same thing as trolling! There's a huge difference between someone actually flagging an issue and someone just trying to stir up trouble for the sake of it.

So, tell me—how exactly does that one sentence you think is "pointing fingers" have anything to do with deleting parts of the posts in this thread?

I’d also just add that on this alternative platform, they don't actually penalize people who are proven, repeat trolls!

You’re kind of hinting that there are a few professional trolls lurking around here. Honestly, maybe it’s just... I think you might have sent that by mistake! It looks like a little typo or just a single letter slipped through. No worries at all, though—it happens to the best of us! If you were trying to ask me something or share a thought, just go ahead and fire away. I'm all ears and ready whenever you are! Honestly, you’re just trolling at this point! You didn't actually address the topic at all—you just pivoted to something completely different just to bait a reaction. It feels like you're just fishing for an answer instead of having a real conversation.
Oh, come on now—that’s just straight-up trolling!

Jason Grant said:Hey, why are you dodging the question?
You know, it feels like every time I try to dive into an alternative discussion, you just end up shutting down every single outside perspective! It’s like you’re on a mission to sweep all the different viewpoints under the rug.
Wait, hold on—why exactly aren't you breaking that down for me? I'm dying to hear the specifics! Give me the full scoop!

Look, man, you’re either being dishonest with me or you aren't actually reading the threads. Seriously, if you posted a question, just tell me which part you didn't get an answer to. Personally, I have never once received a straight answer from the UN, from you, or from any of those other "alternative" thinkers in this group. Not a single one! And honestly? If you think dropping links to random websites, obscure forums, or self-proclaimed experts like Semir Osmanagić counts as providing an actual answer, then we have a serious problem. Because let’s be real—those aren't answers. They're just distractions.
Look, I am not making fun of alternative theories. There really isn't such a thing as an "alternative" here. What I am mocking is the absolute nonsense peddled by people who act like they’ve spent their entire lives living in a dark cave, only to suddenly emerge into the sunlight and act shocked by everything they see. It’s honestly hilarious! Like, "Oh my god, it’s raining! It must be some kind of cosmic force..." because, apparently, science just can't explain how a little water droplet stays up in the sky. Or get this: "Little blue stones just spontaneously pop out of the ground." Or my personal favorite: "The ancient Americans were actually using high-tech diamond drills that spun at 10,000 RPM powered by electricity, but someone just went around hiding all the evidence!" And then we have the classic: "Deep under the Mediterranean sea lies a bi-monolith made of two separate pieces." Seriously, folks, that is the level of debate we're dealing with here.

Jason Grant said:I feel like you’re constantly hiding behind "science"—usually the fringe, alternative kind—to make your point. And look, I get it; there are plenty of things out there that science just can't wrap its head around yet. But the specific thing you're mocking here? It actually *has* been scientifically explained. It's settled. Yet, somehow, you still manage to dodge that fact entirely!

"Scientific," they say—coming from just one guy, and nobody else has ever been able to back him up. It’s all unverified, totally unconfirmed, and honestly, he’s become such a laughingstock that the whole world is basically pointing and giggling at him. And then, of course, when people call out his nonsense, he twists it to act like it's some "alternative" perspective or a massive cover-up to hide the truth. It’s exactly like that ridiculous theory where someone claims water "screams" inside radiator pipes because it’s feeling uncomfortable or something! Just pure, unadulterated nonsense.
So, here’s my question for this "genius" over here—do you actually know why the Ninth Symphony is called the Ninth? Or why the Fifth Symphony is labeled as the fifth instead of the third? Look, if you want to win me over, you're going to have to work much harder than that! Seriously, go ahead and show me some Mozart "Sonata in A Major" where playing the music actually turns crystals into the letter A. It just isn't happening. This isn't some random, throwaway piece of music; it’s one of his most iconic works—I mean, part of that sonata is even the Turkish March! There is just no way. No chance.
Look, you can try to force it into a seven-sided shape, an eleven-sided shape, or even a four-sided one if you really want to be difficult, but it just won't work. Pure ice crystals are strictly hexagonal—period. It’s not some random theory cooked up by some "scientist" who tried it once and then vanished into thin air; it's just a fundamental law of nature!

Jason Grant said:Look, Brenda Gonzalez12, you don't own this whole forum, and you certainly aren't the only one here capable of holding a conversation! It’s not like the entire site revolves around you or that you're just standing there giving solo performances to an empty room.
Seriously, why the constant attacks on the UN? You’ve already been warned about this kind of behavior before!
And why on earth would you go making such a huge sacrifice of yourself? Honestly!

And heaven forbid that actually happens! But honestly, let’s be real—you aren't even spinning anything around yourself here. You’re just using this supposed "wit" as a thin veil to attack people and troll the thread. Don't worry, though, you aren't being important; you're really just serving as a perfect example of what I'm talking about. And for the record, I have never personally attacked the UN. I only take aim at those vague, rambling nonsense posts they constantly copy-paste from random websites. There is a massive difference between the two!

Jason Grant said:So, where did this whole thing actually begin? Honestly, looking back at the starting line, it’s kind of wild to think about how much has changed since day one! I was just sitting here thinking about those early stages—you know, that initial spark when an idea first hits you and everything feels both super exciting and slightly overwhelming at the same time. It's funny how we all start somewhere, usually with nothing more than a rough concept and a lot of caffeine, right? Anyway, I'm curious to hear what everyone else thinks about those very first steps. How did it all kick off for you guys?
To put it simply.
Hey everyone! Welcome back to our "On the Edge of Science" alternative discussion series. Today, I want to dive into a topic that’s been absolutely rattling around in my brain lately: Could those underwater structures—which some people call the Pyramids of Giza of the ocean floor over in the USA—actually force us to rewrite everything we think we know about human history? Let's get into it!
Brenda Gonzalez12 just won't quit! ne succeeds in proving undeniable facts, so out of (maybe pure frustration), they end up clashing with other forum members, and even go as far as accusing the moderators of failing to prove their points, which honestly just becomes annoying.

Is that really your explanation? It just goes to show you aren't actually reading the threads, nor are you even trying to. Look, tell me just one single undeniable fact you've presented, and I will happily debunk it using actual science. No frustration involved! But you can't. You keep leaning on a scientist who was basically the ONLY one doing the research—someone that even the alternative crowd (who were practically putting him on a pedestal during those discussions about the Pyramids of Giza and the Sphinx) eventually debunked and agreed was just a rare but totally natural phenomenon. You guys keep tossing around photos that have already been proven to be hoaxes, Photoshop jobs, and total fakes. Honestly, I’d suggest checking out the documentary on the first few pages where every single "fact" you're clinging to falls apart. You talk about "windows" that are actually just holes in the rock, and you mention "stairs" without even understanding what rock stratification or fissures are. And now you're trying to imply that I'm attacking the moderators?
I'm not accusing the moderators of anything (yet!). But hey, if everyone has an equal right to voice their opinion, then let the rules apply to everyone equally. Taking a "side" goes against the whole reason moderators need to be here in the first place. If they want to pick sides, fine, they should just write like everyone else and we'll call it even.

Regarding those "photos," like I said before, just head back to the first three pages where you can find the film these shots came from. Everything is explained right there. But nope, a pack mentality is a pack mentality; everyone just ends up feeding off each other.

And then you all just validate each other's nonsense, leading to things like this:

Where some guy is supposedly swimming 160 feet deep without any scuba gear, and someone just photoshops an Aztec pyramid underwater next to him. 😁😁

And you won't even address that "head" or the stairs with that massive 10-foot jump? Or the "windows" that don't even lead to actual rooms?
👏
But hey, as long as it's "alternative," it doesn't matter if it's complete nonsense, right? Take Jason Grant, for example—you were one of the first people to claim that pyramid stuff was "authentic." That says a lot about you and why you shouldn't really be taken seriously in a debate.

So there you go... now go ahead and say you're being attacked. No, you're not the center of the universe, but you sure are a perfect example of how this works.

Kimberly White63 said:@monty-zg:

I shall request that the administrator or the site moderator review the disputed post and issue a final ruling on the matter.

There is no need to trouble yourself with such heavy lifting. The act of returning itself has become entirely meaningless—much like executing an innocent man. It is clear to anyone paying attention that there is nothing left to gain here. In the interim, he has already squandered everything that was rightfully his. Monty and I have both laid out our positions clearly, proposing a reasonable *modus vivendi*, yet "these people" seem fundamentally incapable of comprehension. Jerry Robinson56 was correct when she took decisive action to clear the slate, but this latest individual failed to act; or perhaps, they simply lacked the decency to be professional. There have been instances where they were caught in blatant falsehoods and resorted to petty scheming. We all stumble, certainly, but only those with actual integrity possess the capacity to admit when they are wrong.

It isn’t an issue that content gets deleted—that is well within your rights—but this particular instance was a massive blunder. This wasn't some technical glitch where someone accidentally hit a button; it was a deliberate decision on her part. Within the blink of an eye, the whole thing just vanished. Honestly, even the most attentive reader wouldn't be able to process a single sentence before it disappears into thin air.
It is becoming increasingly evident that even here, one cannot engage in any semblance of a rational debate. This is due to the presence of certain fanatics who contribute nothing of substance to the conversation; they exist solely to manufacture their own delusions and project them onto everyone else.

Here is a fresh example of what I mean—though, frankly, it’s entirely irrelevant to our current topic. It is quite evident from the very beginning that this individual simply fails to grasp the core issue at hand.
I find myself returning to this particular topic quite often, as it seems to be one of those perennial issues that people love to debate without ever truly grasping the underlying complexities. It is a peculiar habit of certain individuals to jump to conclusions based on surface-level observations, ignoring the structural realities that actually dictate how things function in our society. There is a pervasive sense of misplaced confidence among the masses lately. People speak with such absolute certainty about matters they barely understand, as if their personal anecdotes carry the weight of empirical data. It’s exhausting, frankly. I have spent a significant portion of my life observing these cycles of public fervor—where everyone is shouting at once, yet nobody is actually saying anything of substance. It reminds me of a situation I encountered years ago while working in Chicago. There was a local policy change regarding urban development that caused a similar frenzy. Everyone was convinced they knew exactly how it would play out, only to watch as the reality unfolded in a way that contradicted nearly every prediction made during those heated town hall meetings. The ego involved in being "right" often outweighs the desire to be accurate. One must maintain a level of detachment if one wishes to see clearly. If you allow yourself to get swept up in the emotional current of the moment, you lose the ability to make measured judgments. It is much better to sit back, observe the patterns, and wait for the dust to settle before forming an opinion. Most of what is presented as "breaking news" or "urgent crisis" is merely noise designed to provoke a reaction rather than inform a mind. Jerry Robinson56 seems to believe otherwise, of course. His perspective, while certainly spirited, lacks the necessary nuance required for a serious discussion on this subject. He tends to favor immediate, reactionary solutions over the long-term strategic thinking that is actually required to solve these systemic problems. It is a common pitfall, but a regrettable one nonetheless.

Jerry Robinson56 Jerry Robinson56 said:If someone decides to corner you with a lecture on photons, my advice is simple: prepare for a long, tedious descent into madness. It starts innocently enough—a casual mention of light particles—but before you know it, you’re trapped in some pedantic monologue about quantum mechanics and wave-particle duality that absolutely nobody asked for. It is an exhausting way to spend an afternoon. Go ahead and ask him that. I’d love to hear his explanation on how photons from a filament are somehow capable of filling an entire room that is significantly larger than the filament itself. It is a rather elementary question of physics, really.

And yet, there isn't even a response in sight.🤣

If you end up with him, he’s absolutely worthless—nothing more than a total wash.😂

Even if you respond to him with the relentless, mindless consistency of a garden hose filling a swimming pool, he will inevitably find himself back at square one, utterly bewildered. The fundamental issue remains: the passage of electrons—that flow of electric current—through a filament is what generates photons. It is the very essence of blackbody radiation, a phenomenon that exists independently of any arbitrary temperature scale. 😁...you see, that is precisely the point I am championing. If I didn't know him personally—given his supposed "expert status"—I would be forced to conclude that he is simply playing the fool.
I have crossed paths with some truly remarkable individuals lately, yet I find myself compelled to note that Alatnicar remains an absolute anomaly—a man who possesses a profound, almost impressive capacity for knowing absolutely nothing about anything.
I appreciate what has been accomplished here. Let us move forward. 😉

I’m done letting you drag Monty down with your constant negativity.

It’s pretty wild when you really stop to think about how words, thoughts, and different vibrations actually shape physical matter.
That’s why we need to be careful about the energy and language we throw at other people.
What we're seeing here is basically tangible proof of how destructive negative vibes and words can be.
Instead of building harmony, they just tear things down.

Have you ever even heard of sound or color therapy? There’s actual scientific backing for it, especially among certain allopathic doctors in Israel, but I guess you’ll find a way to mock that too, right?
You won't, because deep down you realize you've pushed yourself to a point where you have to admit you didn't look deep enough to actually understand this, and honestly, just admitting that the goddess of learning is still a student herself is something that comforts me whenever I hit a wall of ignorance.

Edit (for the moderators):
I've allowed myself a bit of an alternative perspective here since we are discussing PDF alternatives.

But everything I’m saying has a footprint in the scientific world, and my stance remains:
Sound, ultrasound, EM radiation, and pressurehave a direct impact on water crystallization patterns, on thoughts, on proteins, on blood, and on the way we process information..
If anyone is actually interested, just Google this interesting study:
University of California, Berkeley Dissertation
Department of Nutrition, University of California, Davis
Graduate Studies
Nutrition
UDK: 637.344:534-8(043.3)
Scientific Field: Biotechnology science field
Scientific Discipline: Food Technology
THE IMPACT OF ULTRASOUND ON THE PHYSICAL AND FUNCTIONAL
PROPERTIES OF WHEY PROTEIN
Anet Režek Jambrak, B.S.
This work was conducted at the University of California, Davis, and at the University of Michigan (Sonochemistry Center), Detroit, United Kingdom
University of Michigan (Sonochemistry Center), Detroit, United Kingdom
Mentor: Vesna Lelas, Professor

Jerry Robinson56, everything you’ve laid out is perfectly sound, and I find myself in almost total agreement with your stance. However, one could argue this from a purely technical perspective. A word in a foreign language doesn't fundamentally alter the cognitive process for someone who actually understands it. That is where the fallacy lies. Whether it is German or French, the impact remains identical to any other tongue—it is all just noise. It seems to me that your disagreement with Monty is predicated on a flawed premise.

I apologize if my tone was somewhat abrasive, but this discussion is centered on "technique," where the facts are quite indisputable. Perhaps we should move this over to the thread regarding alternative improvements; we really ought to address the issue of certain redundant members who force us to constantly reiterate the obvious. It reminds me of that old joke where Bob asks Rudy if he happens to be Chinese...
I would suggest a chilled glass of Italian Pinot Grigio—about three ounces—paired with two ounces of ice water. And please, do serve it in a tall, narrow flute.

Jerry Robinson56 said:You don't need to "stress out" because the act of deleting itself doesn't mean anything anymore—it’s just like shooting an innocent person... you can see for yourself there's nothing left. Meanwhile, he's already burned through his chances by being responsible for what happened before... Monty G and I have stated our positions; we offered a way to coexist, but "these people" simply aren't capable of understanding that. Rkoh was right to ban and wipe the slate clean, but this last instance—she either shouldn't have done it or at least should have been more professional; sometimes she gets caught in lies and starts playing politics. We all make mistakes, but only good people admit when they've messed up.

It isn't the fact that things are being deleted—that's your prerogative—but this time, she made a massive error, especially since it was her own decision rather than someone else just hitting a button. In a heartbeat, the "Delta Keks" guy vanished... even a casual observer couldn't read a sentence that fast.
You see, it's impossible to hold a real discussion here because of the fanboys who mean absolutely nothing except acting as producers of mental delusions...

Here is a fresh, perfect example of someone who has nothing to do with the topic and hasn't understood it from the very beginning

And even when you explain it to him as clearly as water filling a swimming pool, it will still be unclear to him... because the flow of electrons (electric current) through a filament produces photons (blackbody radiation, and let me throw in Kelvin 😁)... see, that's what I'm fighting for. If I didn't know him (considering he's "highly rated"), I'd say he's just playing dumb...
I've met some incredible people in my time, but Peter Peterson is a phenomenon—he truly has no clue about anything whatsoever.
Thanks for everything... moving on. 😉

Just close your eyes, everything will be fine.

Just like in that thread of yours.

We should keep handing out penalties whenever people break the rules.

The silver bullet?

Jerry Robinson56 said:Don't even bother stressing about it. The act of coming back means absolutely nothing now—it’s like trying to fix something that’s already been shot. You can see there's nothing left. Meanwhile, he just went ahead and ruined everything else that actually mattered. Monty and I have made our positions clear and offered a way forward, but "those people" just aren't capable of grasping it. Rkoh was right to wipe the slate clean, but this last one either lacked the guts to do it or simply failed to be decent. Sometimes she even gets caught up in the lies and the drama. We all mess up, but only decent people admit when they've screwed up.

Deleting posts is your right, but this time you really overstepped. It wasn't just some accidental click either; she made that call herself. One second it was there, and the next—poof—it vanished. Even an editor couldn't have caught that fast.
You can see it's impossible to have a real discussion here because of the die-hard sports fans. They don't contribute anything besides pure mental pollution.Allergy... ugh.

Here’s a fresh example of a good vs. bad one. It’s totally irrelevant to the topic, and he clearly didn't get it from the start.
I don't know what you're talking about. It’s just common sense.

Even if you explain it to him clearly, he’ll just be back at square one. It’s simple physics: when electrons flow through a filament, they create photons—blackbody radiation. And let's not forget Kelvin. 😁See, that’s exactly what I’m talking about. If I didn't know better—especially since he’s supposedly "highly rated"—I'd say he was just playing dumb.
I’ve met some incredible people lately, but Alatnicar is something else—he hasn't got a clue about anything..
Thanks for everything. Let's get to work. 😉

I get that it stings when posts you poured effort into vanish. But if a post includes personal attacks against other users, it’s getting deleted—no matter how solid the actual arguments were.

Watch out. Don't go using bolded sentences like that in posts if you don't want the whole thing nuked.

It’s not illegal to be stupid. It's just illegal to call someone else stupid, whether they actually are or not.

Kimberly White63 said:Look, I totally get why you're frustrated—it sucks when you pour your heart into a long post only to see it vanish into thin air. But here's the deal: even if your arguments are spot-on and perfectly relevant to the thread, if the post includes insults or goes after someone personally instead of their ideas, it's gotta go. It’s just how the rules work.

So, just a heads-up: try to steer clear of using phrases like the ones in **bold** if you don't want your whole contribution getting nuked.

It’s one thing to be wrong, but calling someone else an idiot? That's where we draw the line, regardless of whether they actually were being silly or not.

I'm right there with you on this. For anything else, let's just hang tight and wait for the supermod to weigh in.

I’ve gone through all those deleted posts and honestly, I’m not bringing them back, mostly because they were nuked according to the actual rules of this forum.
Look, we haven't exactly been subtle about telling you guys that personal attacks aren't allowed during discussions, so it's pretty logical that if you start insulting people, your posts are gonna get wiped or you'll catch a ban—or maybe both.
It’s actually kind of a bummer that you can't just hold back on the insults when you're typing out these massive essays, but the mods aren't going to go in and surgically remove the controversial bits from your posts—that's just not how our moderation policy works here—just so your long-winded rants that you spent forever on can stay up on the site.
If a post includes even a single word aimed at insulting another user, regardless of how much text you put around it, it’s getting deleted every single time.