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Wrath of Man (2021)

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neonfox65 neonfox65 Regular
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#21 ·
Rebecca Scott95 said:image

It follows some cold, mysterious guy who lands a job at a firm moving hundreds of millions of dollars every single week in Los Angeles. Then his son gets killed—so naturally, he goes on a revenge spree.

DIRECTOR: Guy Ritchie
CAST: Jason Statham, Holt McCallany, Josh Hartnett

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Wait, isn't it actually the other way around? He loses his son first, then gets the job...
neonfox65 neonfox65 Regular
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#22 ·
Scott Eastwood stars in this one—he's Clint Eastwood's son, after all

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Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#23 ·
Nathan Murphy said:Action fans know there’s a difference between mindless spectacle and smart action movies with actual depth and solid acting. This one doesn't hit that mark, and honestly, Jason Statham isn't really built for high-caliber, thoughtful action. Most of his filmography feels like brainless muscle movies, much like the stuff Sylvester Stallone and Arnold Schwarzenegger were churning out back in the 80s. Sure, those guys are legends, but they belong to that specific "popcorn flick" category where the movies play more like comedies than serious cinema. Great action doesn't start with them, and it certainly doesn't end with them. It's just a shame that because they're so massive, people assume that's how all action movies are supposed to work.

Arnold's movies actually had charisma, a sense of humor, and some soul.

Sly was incredible in the first Rocky, the first Rambo, in Fist, and especially in Copeland.
Kevin Brooks Kevin Brooks Member
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joined Feb 2020
#24 ·
The movie is stupid—even for someone looking to turn their brain off completely.
Nathan Murphy Nathan Murphy Active Member
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#25 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:Arnold's movies actually had charisma, a sense of humor, and some soul.

Sly was incredible in the first Rocky, the first Rambo, in Fist, and especially in Copeland.

I grew up watching him, alongside classics like Conan the Barbarian, The Terminator, and Predator, plus those smaller action flicks from the 80s. If you throw in True Lie and Taken, you get the full picture. I’m a fan of Arnie, but honestly, he isn't the best actor.

Richard Wilson4 As specified by:
Sly is an incredible actor, especially in the original Rocky Balboa, the first Rambo, Fist, and most notably in Copeland.

This is actually the first time I've heard someone call Sly an excellent actor. It’s funny because on another thread, there was this big debate about Brad Pitt. One group was insisting he’s top-tier, while my group was arguing that while he's good, he isn't quite "excellent" yet. Now, it looks like I might have to concede and start accepting Sly as an elite actor too. 😵 Let’s be realistic here: the guy is a mediocre actor who just happens to have an occasional standout performance. I recently rewatched *Copeland*, and honestly, that was one of the few times he actually nailed it. Sure, that role was better than his previous work, but that’s exactly the trap people fall into. They know he lacks any real dramatic range, yet the moment he finally delivers a decent performance, they suddenly start acting like he’s some legendary dramatic powerhouse.

By any standard, Sylvester Stallone isn't an elite actor. To earn that title, you need a consistent track record of stellar performances, and he just doesn't have that. People love Rocky Balboa because it’s a story about hope, and let’s be honest—any movie that provides that kind of inspiration is going to find an audience. He hit the jackpot with his timing, sure, but if you look at Rocky objectively, it’s a decent enough film that somehow exploded into a massive phenomenon. As for Sly himself, his acting in that role is just middle-of-the-road. I don't see a single standout moment where you could point and say, "Now, there is a masterclass in acting."

While Rambo is my favorite of his films, that crying and screaming at the end is just proof of how weak his acting actually is. Look, I grew up watching these guys and I love all their movies, but by any real standard, they aren't exactly "great" actors. In my book, they’re pretty mediocre—Sly might be a bit better, though that's debatable—but generally speaking, they're just actors who occasionally stumble into a decent role. That doesn't mean I don't respect what they achieved, especially when it comes to Arnie. To me, Arnie is a much bigger inspiration to young people than someone like Jack Nicholson, Robert De Niro, or Al Pacino, specifically because of how he fought his way up to become the biggest action icon of the 80s. He was a total anomaly, and you have to hand it to him for that.
Daniel Kelly57 Daniel Kelly57 Active Member
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#26 ·
Nathan Murphy said:I grew up watching him, alongside classics like Conan the Barbarian, The Terminator, and Predator, plus those smaller action flicks from the 80s. If you throw in True Lie and Taken, you get the full picture. I’m a fan of Arnie, but honestly, he isn't the best actor.

Richard Wilson4 As specified by:
Sly is an incredible actor, especially in the original Rocky Balboa, the first Rambo, Fist, and most notably in Copeland.

This is actually the first time I've heard someone call Sly an excellent actor. It’s funny because on another thread, there was this big debate about Brad Pitt. One group was insisting he’s top-tier, while my group was arguing that while he's good, he isn't quite "excellent" yet. Now, it looks like I might have to concede and start accepting Sly as an elite actor too. 😵 Let’s be realistic here: the guy is a mediocre actor who just happens to have an occasional standout performance. I recently rewatched *Copeland*, and honestly, that was one of the few times he actually nailed it. Sure, that role was better than his previous work, but that’s exactly the trap people fall into. They know he lacks any real dramatic range, yet the moment he finally delivers a decent performance, they suddenly start acting like he’s some legendary dramatic powerhouse.

By any standard, Sylvester Stallone isn't an elite actor. To earn that title, you need a consistent track record of stellar performances, and he just doesn't have that. People love Rocky Balboa because it’s a story about hope, and let’s be honest—any movie that provides that kind of inspiration is going to find an audience. He hit the jackpot with his timing, sure, but if you look at Rocky objectively, it’s a decent enough film that somehow exploded into a massive phenomenon. As for Sly himself, his acting in that role is just middle-of-the-road. I don't see a single standout moment where you could point and say, "Now, there is a masterclass in acting."

While Rambo is my favorite of his films, that crying and screaming at the end is just proof of how weak his acting actually is. Look, I grew up watching these guys and I love all their movies, but by any real standard, they aren't exactly "great" actors. In my book, they’re pretty mediocre—Sly might be a bit better, though that's debatable—but generally speaking, they're just actors who occasionally stumble into a decent role. That doesn't mean I don't respect what they achieved, especially when it comes to Arnie. To me, Arnie is a much bigger inspiration to young people than someone like Jack Nicholson, Robert De Niro, or Al Pacino, specifically because of how he fought his way up to become the biggest action icon of the 80s. He was a total anomaly, and you have to hand it to him for that.


Watch and learn, buddy! Where are the mods? They should kick a maniac like this off a movie forum. Sly is clearly the pinnacle of dramatic art. 🍿
mellowskipper mellowskipper Regular
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#27 ·
Nathan Murphy said:I grew up watching him, alongside classics like Conan the Barbarian, The Terminator, and Predator, plus those smaller action flicks from the 80s. If you throw in True Lie and Taken, you get the full picture. I’m a fan of Arnie, but honestly, he isn't the best actor.

Richard Wilson4 As specified by:
Sly is an incredible actor, especially in the original Rocky Balboa, the first Rambo, Fist, and most notably in Copeland.

This is actually the first time I've heard someone call Sly an excellent actor. It’s funny because on another thread, there was this big debate about Brad Pitt. One group was insisting he’s top-tier, while my group was arguing that while he's good, he isn't quite "excellent" yet. Now, it looks like I might have to concede and start accepting Sly as an elite actor too. 😵 Let’s be realistic here: the guy is a mediocre actor who just happens to have an occasional standout performance. I recently rewatched *Copeland*, and honestly, that was one of the few times he actually nailed it. Sure, that role was better than his previous work, but that’s exactly the trap people fall into. They know he lacks any real dramatic range, yet the moment he finally delivers a decent performance, they suddenly start acting like he’s some legendary dramatic powerhouse.

By any standard, Sylvester Stallone isn't an elite actor. To earn that title, you need a consistent track record of stellar performances, and he just doesn't have that. People love Rocky Balboa because it’s a story about hope, and let’s be honest—any movie that provides that kind of inspiration is going to find an audience. He hit the jackpot with his timing, sure, but if you look at Rocky objectively, it’s a decent enough film that somehow exploded into a massive phenomenon. As for Sly himself, his acting in that role is just middle-of-the-road. I don't see a single standout moment where you could point and say, "Now, there is a masterclass in acting."

While Rambo is my favorite of his films, that crying and screaming at the end is just proof of how weak his acting actually is. Look, I grew up watching these guys and I love all their movies, but by any real standard, they aren't exactly "great" actors. In my book, they’re pretty mediocre—Sly might be a bit better, though that's debatable—but generally speaking, they're just actors who occasionally stumble into a decent role. That doesn't mean I don't respect what they achieved, especially when it comes to Arnie. To me, Arnie is a much bigger inspiration to young people than someone like Jack Nicholson, Robert De Niro, or Al Pacino, specifically because of how he fought his way up to become the biggest action icon of the 80s. He was a total anomaly, and you have to hand it to him for that.

Just look at Maggie from Arnie's films; that was the performance of a lifetime. The man definitely knows how to act.
frozenheron7 frozenheron7 Member
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#28 ·
Richard Wilson4 said:Arnold's movies actually had charisma, a sense of humor, and some soul.

Sly was incredible in the first Rocky, the first Rambo, in Fist, and especially in Copeland.

"Remember When I Said I'll Kill You Last, Sully?
-Yes!
-I lied."

Or that bit where the guy kills someone on a plane:
"Please don't disturb my friend, he's dead tired"

😁

Look, sorry if this is getting off-topic, but I just had to weigh in.
Honestly, action flicks from the 80s had better comedic timing than 95% of the "comedies" being churned out today.
neonfox65 neonfox65 Regular
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#29 ·
Nathan Murphy said:I grew up watching him, alongside classics like Conan the Barbarian, The Terminator, and Predator, plus those smaller action flicks from the 80s. If you throw in True Lie and Taken, you get the full picture. I’m a fan of Arnie, but honestly, he isn't the best actor.

Richard Wilson4 As specified by:
Sly is an incredible actor, especially in the original Rocky Balboa, the first Rambo, Fist, and most notably in Copeland.

This is actually the first time I've heard someone call Sly an excellent actor. It’s funny because on another thread, there was this big debate about Brad Pitt. One group was insisting he’s top-tier, while my group was arguing that while he's good, he isn't quite "excellent" yet. Now, it looks like I might have to concede and start accepting Sly as an elite actor too. 😵 Let’s be realistic here: the guy is a mediocre actor who just happens to have an occasional standout performance. I recently rewatched *Copeland*, and honestly, that was one of the few times he actually nailed it. Sure, that role was better than his previous work, but that’s exactly the trap people fall into. They know he lacks any real dramatic range, yet the moment he finally delivers a decent performance, they suddenly start acting like he’s some legendary dramatic powerhouse.

By any standard, Sylvester Stallone isn't an elite actor. To earn that title, you need a consistent track record of stellar performances, and he just doesn't have that. People love Rocky Balboa because it’s a story about hope, and let’s be honest—any movie that provides that kind of inspiration is going to find an audience. He hit the jackpot with his timing, sure, but if you look at Rocky objectively, it’s a decent enough film that somehow exploded into a massive phenomenon. As for Sly himself, his acting in that role is just middle-of-the-road. I don't see a single standout moment where you could point and say, "Now, there is a masterclass in acting."

While Rambo is my favorite of his films, that crying and screaming at the end is just proof of how weak his acting actually is. Look, I grew up watching these guys and I love all their movies, but by any real standard, they aren't exactly "great" actors. In my book, they’re pretty mediocre—Sly might be a bit better, though that's debatable—but generally speaking, they're just actors who occasionally stumble into a decent role. That doesn't mean I don't respect what they achieved, especially when it comes to Arnie. To me, Arnie is a much bigger inspiration to young people than someone like Jack Nicholson, Robert De Niro, or Al Pacino, specifically because of how he fought his way up to become the biggest action icon of the 80s. He was a total anomaly, and you have to hand it to him for that.

🤦

Man, this one was a total facepalm...
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#30 ·
frozenheron7 said:"Remember When I Said I'll Kill You Last, Sully?
-Yes!
-I lied."

Or that bit where the guy kills someone on a plane:
"Please don't disturb my friend, he's dead tired"

😁

Look, sorry if this is getting off-topic, but I just had to weigh in.
Honestly, action flicks from the 80s had better comedic timing than 95% of the "comedies" being churned out today.

Super fore👍
driftinggardener66 driftinggardener66 Newcomer
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#31 ·
Honestly, I don't even care who the lead actor is in this flick, because at the end of the day, it’s all about the director,
G. R. Medjutim.
This was a total letdown. All those things I usually love about his stuff—the gritty stories, those deep, multi-layered plots involving small-time crooks, the dark humor, and those unforgettable characters (think anything from a nomad version of Brad Pitt to Vinnie Jones, or guys like Mark Strong, Taj Hardy, Robert Downey Jr. as Sherlock Holmes, Colin Farrell as Couch, or even that surprisingly great Hugh Grant playing some greasy reporter)—none of that is here. Even the editing and direction felt off.
It plays like some generic action trash made by a nameless hack in Hollywood... though maybe that was the point? Just a way to grab cash from mindless teenagers... since, according to what I'm reading, the movie actually made a killing.
I just really hope he doesn't make a habit out of making movies like this.
slycobra5 slycobra5 Member
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#32 ·
When you sit down for one of those Jason Statham flicks, you know exactly what kind of ride you're in for. There’s no guesswork involved. If you’re going in expecting some deep, cinematic masterpiece, you’re going to walk out feeling let down. But for everyone else? It delivers exactly what he brings to the table—nothing more, nothing less.
I’d give this one a solid 7.5/10. It's a decent action flick.
Hannah Green2 Hannah Green2 Member
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#33 ·
I watched right up until that first shot was fired, when he took out everyone attempting to hijack the van. It happened just as he was checking on the wounded robber🤦. That moment alone was enough to make me look away and give my brain a much-needed breather.

As for Sly and Arni, they are genuinely talented actors. You can see that depth in some of their non-action roles as well. 🙏

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