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The Avengers (2022)

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Gregory Brown94 Gregory Brown94 Active MemberOP
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#1 ·
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Director: Nia DaCosta
Writers: Gene Colan and Roy Thomas
Cast: Brie Larson, Zawe Ashton, Teyonah Parris, and Iman Vellani

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The Avengers (2022) serves as a direct follow-up to Captain Marvel (2019), though surprisingly, the entire creative team behind the lens has shifted. Brie Larson returns as Carol Danvers, and we see Monica Rambeau again too—only this time she’s fully grown, carrying over the powers she picked up during the WandaVision series. Then there's a new face, Kamala Khan, also known as MS. Her big introduction to the MCU actually happens through her own series first, which explores her origin story, making her the second character to jump from a TV show straight into a feature film.
Grace Edwards Grace Edwards Active Member
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#2 ·
How does it feel that they didn't call her Captain Marvel? I mean, is that supposed to be some kind of personal attack or what? 😬
wearybear82 wearybear82 Member
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#3 ·
This would likely be the full movie title: Disney’s Marvel’s Captain Marvel’s The’s Marvel’s Marvel.
Kevin Brooks Kevin Brooks Member
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#4 ·
I caught some rumor on a YouTube channel saying Anson Mount is showing up as Black Bolt here too. 🤔
Richard Wilson4 Richard Wilson4 Veteran
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#5 ·
wearybear82 said:At this rate, the actual title will be: Disney’s Marvel’s Captain Marvel’s The’s Marvel’s Marvel.

Give me a break... 🤣
Gregory Brown94 Gregory Brown94 Active MemberOP
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#6 ·
It was recently confirmed that Nie DaCoste directed the mid-credits scene in The Avengers. On top of that, they actually built a brand new set to completely replicate Kamala's room.
Gregory Brown94 Gregory Brown94 Active MemberOP
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#7 ·
A movie description just leaked on Reddit. Apparently, the guy who posted it caught a test screening, which means there’s a chance a director's cut could end up looking pretty different from what we're reading right now.

Of course, I’m writing this in white ink.


Zawe Ashton plays the Kree leader, Dar-Benn. There's this one scene where Dar-Benn flashes back to when Carol attacked the Supreme Intelligence. It turns out that from the perspective of the Kree Carol, she’s actually seen as the villain—they even call her "The Annihilator." Apparently, Carol really hates that nickname.

Dar-Benn carries a bracelet just like Kamala Khan’s, though we haven't seen where she got it or any backstory regarding it. She uses hers to power her weaponry, but apparently, she needs both bracelets to actually hit her full potential. There’s this funny little exchange between Kamala and Dar-Benn where the latter asks about the bracelet, and Kamala just quips, "My grandma sent it to me in the mail." It wasn't really explained in the test footage how it works, but whenever Monica Rambeau, Carol Danvers, or Kamala Khan try to tap into their powers, they immediately start swapping places through teleportation. It feels similar to that post-credits scene at the end of The Avengers—for those who haven't seen it, I'm just trying to clarify. Monica is stationed at a space station run by S.W.O.R.D. called the Peak, which acts as the main command hub where Nick Fury is also located. Kamala is just at home, while Carol is attempting to secretly infiltrate the peace treaty between the Kree and the Skrull because she doesn't trust Dar-Benn's intentions. Talos is there as well.

There's this one scene where Kamala is at the Peak and runs into Valkyrie. Valkyrie asks where Carol is and who she even is, and Kamala just goes, "I'm Miss Marvel." Then Valkyrie hits her with this hilarious line about how she must have gotten married again without even sending an invite to the wedding. Kamala looks totally panicked and tries to clarify, "I only go by Miss!"—basically scrambling to make sure everyone knows she isn't actually married to Carol.

There’s another scene where Valkyrie shows up to help save the Skrulls, basically returning the favor for Carol. She gives her this short little speech, and then they share a hug.

Carol tries to make it to that peace summit, but she ends up getting into it with some Kree soldiers instead. While she’s trying to use her powers to clear them out, this annoying teleportation thing kicks in, bouncing her, Monica, and Kamala all over the place. It gets pretty chaotic. At one point, Carol is suddenly at the Peak with Nick Fury, then Kamala is stuck right in the middle of the peace negotiations, and then there's Monica, who finds herself fighting Kree soldiers in Kamala’s bedroom while her family frantically runs around the house with broomsticks, screaming in total panic. Honestly, it was such a funny sequence. In the end, everyone—including Fury—gets dumped into Kamala’s living room, leaving Kamala behind. Also, that post-credits scene with Miss Marvel? That actually happens in the movie.

Carol flies out of the Khan house and takes off, but then that teleportation freak accident happens. Suddenly, Kamala is just plummeting through the air. A panicked Fury tells Monica she needs to go save her, but Monica hesitates—she hasn't quite mastered flying with her powers yet. Fury, being his usual sarcastic self, snaps, "Come on, magic girl!" Monica finally decides to go for it and manages to grab Kamala, but then she loses control of her own abilities. Kamala starts falling all over again. Everyone below starts screaming in pure panic, but then Monica and Carol swap places mid-air, and Carol is the one who catches her. In the middle of all that chaos, Fury just sighs, "Ahhhh, oh, that's just Carol."

At the end of the day, Carol, Kamala, and Monica have to team up to track down Dar-Benn. They’re stuck together because they can't seem to get a handle on that weird teleportation glitch whenever they try to use their powers. The movie doesn't really give us a straight answer on why that happens yet, though there's a hint that their energy signatures are basically cut from the same cloth—just different variations of the same thing.

So, they finally reveal that Dar-Benn is using the power from those bracelets to fuel this new weapon. It’s basically a portal device designed to strip resources from other worlds—things like their atmosphere, water, and solar energy. She’s doing all of this just to try and save her own dying planet, which was actually ruined because of Carol. At the start of the movie, Dar-Benn has already wiped out one planet by stealing its atmosphere, and she took down another one right in the middle of the peace talks between the Kree and the Skrulls. Now, her next target is to swoop in and steal the water from the planet Aladna.

Carol used to live on Hala, and she’s really reluctant to go back because she’s basically their princess—a title she ended up with after marrying Prince Yan due to some weird diplomatic mix-up. On Hala, everyone expresses themselves through song; they don't really have a concept of normal conversation like we do. When Carol arrives and starts singing instead of just talking, it feels pretty strange. It’s actually the first time we see a musical element in the MCU.

They realize this planet is Dar-Benn's next target, so before that happens, they finally get a little downtime to hang out and bond. Monica gives Carol some advice on how to patch things up with Kamala, since in the earlier scenes, Carol snapped at Kamala for messing up at a critical moment. Monica points out that Kamala isn't a soldier and doesn't have experience dealing with high-stakes combat. They also talk about how Carol left her behind and didn't come back, though the truth is she did stop by to see her a few times.

Prince Yan isn't actually in love with Carol despite them being married, but they do have a solid friendship built on mutual respect. Even so, Carol feels awkward every time she visits Hala. The citizens there worship her like royalty, and while Prince Yan is always polite, the conversation drags on long enough to annoy Monica, though Kamala is totally stoked. Monica asks Kamala if she's going to put this whole story into her Captain Marvel fan fiction, and Kamala says she definitely will.

Carol realizes that Dar-Benn wants to destroy every planet Carol calls "home" as an act of revenge. Earth is the final piece of the puzzle. Meanwhile, Fury has gathered the entire Khan family and sent them to the Peak so he can keep an eye on them and keep them safe. While at the Peak, technicians find these weird eggs inside a machine. Everyone freaks out thinking they're under alien attack, but when the eggs hatch, it turns out they're just Flerken kittens. Total chaos breaks out at the Peak.

Not long after, Dar-Benn arrives on Earth, attacking and damaging the Peak, where there aren't enough escape pods to save the crew. Fury comes up with this wild idea: let the Flerken kittens eat everyone, then put the kittens in the pods so they can safely reach Earth. The whole scene is honestly ridiculous and bizarre. The movie hits a lot of different emotional notes—sometimes it feels like a standard MCU flick, and other times it gets silly, kind of like Guardians of the Galaxy.

Monica and Carol head to Hala, where it's raining for the first time in ages, and the surviving Kree are celebrating Dar-Benn's success. Carol realizes that the awful nickname she has is a reflection of what she actually did to the planet; she sees herself as a major antagonist and finally understands how deeply wounded the people of Hala are. Killing Dar-Benn is essentially a form of genocide against Hala. Carol seems hesitant to kill her, but Monica gives a short speech, basically saying they can't save everyone, and if Hala has to fall again, it has to happen. Carol changes her mind and decides she has to stop Dar-Benn.

To make matters worse, while Dar-Benn is destroying planets, the constant opening of portals is actually tearing at the fabric of reality, increasing the risk of incursions. That's another reason why they have to take Dar-Benn down. At the climax, an incursion begins. Carol fights Dar-Benn while Monica and Kamala try to prevent the breach. Monica gets swept through the melting droplets of the universe and ends up in another universe entirely. She manages to fix the rift and stop the incursion, but she stays stuck in that other universe.


Overall, I like it. It feels colorful, though maybe that's just the transition from the serious tone of the first movie to something different. I can't wait.
steeljackal7 steeljackal7 Newcomer
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#8 ·
Honestly, this sounds pretty underwhelming to me. I’ll probably just skip it—kind of like I did with the Ms. Marvel series.
Gregory Brown94 Gregory Brown94 Active MemberOP
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#9 ·
steeljackal7 said:Eh, this just sounds pretty underwhelming to me. I’ll probably end up skipping it, just like I did with the Ms. Marvel series.

I read somewhere that the test screenings happened before they started reshoots, which is pretty much always the case. So, what you're reading might still look a lot different by the time it hits theaters—even if the core concept stays the same.
mistyotter35 mistyotter35 Active Member
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#10 ·
I suppose
here is the trailer.

Maria James94 Maria James94 Member
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#11 ·
Honestly, this whole Marvel thing is starting to get pretty stale.
Ronald Brooks5 Ronald Brooks5 Newcomer
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#12 ·
Christian Morris80 said:Marvel is just getting boring.

Agreed. 🙂 Watched 20 minutes of Eternals and 20 minutes of that Ten Rings thing... I was dying of boredom during both. 🥱 Marvel is way too predictable indeed. 🙂
wearybison63 wearybison63 Active Member
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#13 ·
To be perfectly honest, I couldn't care less about this movie. It’s just not my cup of tea. Even Marvel's Ms. Marvel failed to grab my attention, so I don't see why this would be any different.
ironharbor45 ironharbor45 Newcomer
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#14 ·
I couldn't even bring myself to sit through the whole trailer... it was just too tedious.
I'm sure the actual movie will turn out a million times better than that.
Amy Vaughn12 Amy Vaughn12 Active Member
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#15 ·
I think I’ll probably just skip the theater for this one and wait, though I’m still wondering if it’ll actually be worth sitting through on my PC later.
rustywalker1 rustywalker1 Active Member
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#16 ·
What a mess 🙏
Kyle White3 Kyle White3 Newcomer
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#17 ·
Honestly, Marvel just seems obsessed with keeping the cameras rolling no matter what. At this rate, we’re probably gonna end up with a straight-up chick flick next 🙏 They’ve basically spiraled into a total downward slide of pure garbage
Grace Edwards Grace Edwards Active Member
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#18 ·
I feel like this is just more fuel for them before they hit that "oh crap, people actually aren't buying into our agenda" phase. They’ve already shot most of it, though, which would be a shame to waste (unlike how WB tends to just toss an entire finished movie into the trash right before 😁 )
Samuel Lee2 Samuel Lee2 Newcomer
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#19 ·
I’m sure NASA, who doesn't even read comics and just copies existing plots, will be right here to explain why this is going to be absolutely amazing...
Kenneth Perez15 Kenneth Perez15 Active Member
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#20 ·
I’ve got a really bad feeling about this.

It’ll probably be just like the last Spider-Man—they'll just cram three random things together and call it a masterpiece.

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