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Constant colds, sore throat, and coughing—is my immune system weak?

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bluegardener4 bluegardener4 NewcomerOP
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#41 ·
Thanks for all the advice, guys. Look, I’m not some total hypochondriac or anything, and that's not why I hit up the doctor. It's just that the second I feel even the slightest symptom, I'm out the door. My job is high-stakes, you know? I can't afford to be sidelined, so I grab meds immediately because staying home isn't an option for me—though, yeah, I get it, that's probably not the smartest way to live. I'll try to work on my habits, I guess.

😉So, garlic is off the table.

melloworca6 said:If they don't want to answer the questions, they don't have to...

I honestly have no clue which question I supposedly missed answering. 🙂
bluegardener4 bluegardener4 NewcomerOP
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#42 ·
melloworca6 said:bluegardener4, man, listen to what Body said. He’s telling you to run some basic tests before jumping straight to antibiotics. If this keeps happening, seriously, ask them to send you for more in-depth testing—maybe even see an allergist or something. It just isn't right to be getting sick every single month.

Yeah, I am, and I'm working on it... Thanks!
Austin Hill6 Austin Hill6 Member
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#43 ·
melloworca6 said:If they don't feel like answering the questions, then they don't have to.

Look, you’re a moderator, so I won't push my luck too much here. But honestly, don't you think it's vital that he actually answers? How else is anyone supposed to offer anything more useful than those tired, cliché tips about "boosting your immune system"? He doesn't owe us an answer, obviously, but surely I'm allowed to press the issue—provided nobody decides to ban me for asking the same thing twice, right? It feels strange that such a persistent question is being brushed off like this, especially since it's straightforward and harmless, and his situation is quite specific based on everything shared so far. Unless, of course, there's some serious underlying condition known only to him and his doctor, but if that's the case, then this entire thread and the question itself become completely pointless. You see what I mean?
melloworca6 said:Sure, that’s exactly how things work in a total utopia.

What does that even have to do with anything? Even in the middle of nowhere, you still have access to a couple of general practitioners, and you can actually switch doctors if you want—it’s not like we’re living in Russia where your physician shows up at your door four times a year on a train.
melloworca6 said:The reality is that certain doctors just file their own complaints and keep on practicing regardless of the backlash or formal reports because they have such massive institutional backing behind them that you honestly can't touch them.

Yeah, and? Is the solution just to stop reporting them? By the way, there's that site Healthgrades now where anyone can leave a review for their doctor. It’s not exactly huge, but it's a start.
melloworca6 said:Let’s be honest: you can go to certain doctors asking for specific tests or detailed explanations, and all you're going to get in return is a polite way of telling you to shut up and deal with it.

He’s got a keyboard for a reason, so why shouldn't he just type it all out himself? Is it really such a crime to point out that a doctor isn't being cooperative, or to refuse to explain why they feel the need to prescribe such an endless string of antibiotics?
melloworca6 said:Welcome to the real world.

Thanks, but I’ve got a pretty good grasp on how the real world actually works.
bluegardener4 said:I honestly have no clue which question I supposedly failed to answer. 🙂

Na ovo:
steelwalker26 said:If you actually bother to read this entire thing, you'll see I’ve been trying to make sense of why this doctor is so obsessed with handing out antibiotics like candy, especially when the patient is clearly dealing with viral symptoms and hasn't even been run through a single test or given a shred of actual medical insight. What exactly is being cured here?I honestly find it hard to believe that this is actually happening. bluegardener4 didn't even bother to answer—is he genuinely clueless, or is he just refusing to come clean? 🤷

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I still can't wrap my head around one thing, I’d really love to hear what bluegardener4 has to say about this, wouldn't I? What exactly does your doctor tell you when they're handing over a prescription? Whether you’re looking at a paper file or a digital record, your medical history should clearly list the diagnosis codes that justify every single prescription you've been handed. Why not just demand to see them? Or better yet, ask for a straight explanation as to why they've chosen this specific course of treatment for you. I mean, seriously, these doctors are being paid by our tax dollars to do a job; they aren't some high priests who are above questioning or immune to accountability.

I honestly don't think you can miss him at this point.

So, this is all we got from you?
bluegardener4 said:steelwalker26 — The record is on my computer. I’ll look for the printout once I finally retire (which should be any day now).

But let me ask you this: do you even have a clue what his actual diagnosis is? What does that guy even do when you sit down in front of him? He runs a quick exam, scribbles some nonsense on a prescription pad, and then just tells you to get out. Get out.
bluegardener4 bluegardener4 NewcomerOP
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#44 ·
I honestly think you’re getting a bit too caught up in those conspiracy theory vibes. I don't even know why I'd bother hiding anything, especially on a forum where we're all pretty much anonymous anyway.
The way my doctor visits work is basically just me showing up, having them check my throat, hearing it's inflamed, and then being handed some antibiotics. They usually just check what they prescribed last time to make sure they're switching things up.

Here's a little something interesting though—a buddy of mine in my circle deals with the exact same thing. It's like, the second the weather forecast predicts a cold snap, he's down for the count (runny nose, fever, the whole deal). His symptoms aren't quite the same as mine, but he gets hit just as often. Difference is, he doesn't bother with doctors or antibiotics.
Walter Thomas18 Walter Thomas18 Active Member
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#45 ·
steelwalker26 said:I have to take this opportunity.

First: I fully respect your choice to consume whatever you want for the sake of health and immunity.

But, please— don't don't think that a glass of milk or a piece of gum covers up the scent of such an excessive amount of garlic. The smell penetrates every pore of your body and comes out through your sweat. Even your pinky toe, your clothes, and your shoes will smell like garlic if you wear them for any length of time.

Maybe garlic is fantastic for immunity. Maybe it also helps because everyone around you subtly backs away from the unpleasant odor, so they won't pass a virus to you. Why do I say unpleasant? A small amount of garlic in a freshly cooked meal smells fine; I'll stand by that. But once the body processes it and it mixes with sweat and sits for a while, let me be clear: it stinks.

There is a woman at the company I work for who is otherwise perfectly lovely, sweet, and great at her job. Everyone likes her. She washes regularly; she isn't some slob. But everyone avoids standing upwind of her because she clearly has a habit of taking garlic in those "medical" quantities. When she walks down a hallway, a cloud follows her for five minutes. It’s great if you can function like that... just be aware of it.

A little garlic definitely doesn't smell as bad as you're describing. Okay, garlic smells (I agree), but it only smells from the mouth if you overdo the consumption. And that can be relatively well masked, just as was written. Of course, something can be sensed, but not nearly as much as you wrote. Those people where it's highly noticeable either don't wash (or their clothes) or they eat massive amounts.
When you have long-term issues with inflammation, or rather immunity, and you want to avoid antibiotics, you can deal with the smell a bit more since it isn't as noticeable as you claim.
The alternative would be pharmaceuticals (chemicals). After taking chemicals for a long time, you find yourself reaching for natural remedies, and garlic definitely falls under the better natural remedies.
coastaltiger7 coastaltiger7 Member
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joined Dec 2020
#46 ·
bluegardener4 said:and I head straight for the pharmacy because I just can't afford to stay home sick (I know, not smart, I'll try to work on my habits).

So garlic is off the table then. 😉

A ton of people insist on meds even when they just have a standard virus, and you can't explain to them that antibiotics won't do a damn thing. Sometimes it’s just easier for doctors to write the prescription and call it a day. Obviously, it’s wrong and shouldn't happen, but I've seen the scenes at clinics when people don't get their antibiotics, so I guess I get why doctors do it.
But I don't get the whole running to the doctor for every little sore throat, unless we're talking about toddlers, the elderly, or people with chronic issues.
melloworca6 melloworca6 Regular
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joined May 2010
#47 ·
Betty Hayes10 said:Look, I see you're a mod, so I won't push my luck too hard. But honestly, he needs to answer. How else is anyone supposed to give him anything more useful than those cliché "boost your immune system" tips everyone throws around? He doesn't *have* to reply, obviously, but I figure I’m allowed to insist—at least until someone bans me for asking the same thing twice. It’s weird how this question keeps getting ignored. It’s straightforward and harmless, and based on everything he's shared, his situation is pretty specific. Unless there’s some major underlying illness that only he and his doctor know about, then this whole thread and the question itself become pointless. You get what I mean?

We don't just hand out freebies like that over on HealthLine. 😁 Look, you can insist all you want, but nobody here owes anyone an explanation. 🤷

What does that even have to do with anything? Even in the most backwater, middle-of-nowhere towns—and trust me, I come from one—you still have access to two or three general practitioners. Plus, you can actually switch doctors if you want. It’s not like we’re living in Russia where your physician shows up at your house four times a year on a train.

So you’ve got maybe two or three options left. One is a total hack, and the other two are absolutely slammed because everyone is fleeing the bad one. What are you supposed to do then?

Look, here’s the situation in my city. I don't live in some tiny rural backwater; we're one of the top four largest cities in the US, so we should have plenty of options. We have about ten gynecologists around here. Out of those, maybe two or three are actually praised as specialists—though even they’ve gotten all high and mighty lately, being picky about referrals and acting like they're doing you a favor. As for the rest? You just pick whoever is standing there. Of those ten, only two or three are even accepting new patients. Everyone else is so overbooked that you couldn't squeeze an appointment in if you tried. Personally, I'm not exactly thrilled with my own doctor. My experiences haven't been the best; I’ve actually had to play games and lie just to get basic testing that should be standard procedure. And it's not just me. I see it happening to my friends all the time—doctors who just breeze past important stuff without a second thought. They'll skimp on swabs or refuse to even use a light, even when you tell them you have cats at home and aren't sure if you've cleared toxoplasmosis. It's ridiculous.

Who am I supposed to switch to? The other options around here aren't any better than him, and honestly, what are we looking at? Maybe two or three doctors total. That's it.

That’s exactly my point. It’s one thing to talk big on the internet, but it’s a completely different story in the real world. Leaving your doctor isn't always as simple as people make it sound online. Sometimes you're just picking the lesser of two evils, and other times, you don't have any choice at all.

Yeah, and? Is the solution just to stop reporting them? By the way, there’s this site now, Healthgrades, where anyone can leave a review for their doctor. It’s not exactly massive, but it’s a start.

It’s not a silver bullet, but sometimes filing enough reports is the only way to actually get shit done.

By the way, they scrub any criticism on that site if people start threatening them with libel lawsuits. They’re doing the same thing here on the forum. 😉
steelwalker26 steelwalker26 Active Member
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#48 ·
Walter Thomas18 said:A little garlic isn't going to smell nearly as bad as you're making it out to be. Sure, garlic stinks (I'll give you that), but it only reeks from your breath if you go overboard with it. And honestly, it masks pretty well just like you described. Of course, there’s a scent, but it's not as extreme as you're claiming. The people who actually smell terrible are either skipping hygiene altogether—teeth or clothes—or they're consuming massive amounts.
If you're dealing with chronic inflammation or immune issues and want to dodge antibiotics, you might want to reconsider your dosage since it doesn't linger as heavily as you think...

So, am I wasting my time trying to find common ground here? Did I claim that a hint of garlic in a freshly cooked meal smells great? Yes, I did.

Did I quote people who devour two cloves every single day for months? Yes, I did. And that is A LOT. That constitutes a significant amount.

No, an amount like that cannot be masked by anything. And you want to know why I'm even bringing this up? Because people in the real world won't tell you that you stink. They won't do it. No matter how much it hits them, they'll stay quiet just to be polite.

You can't even sense it yourself, because the human nose adapts to whatever scent or stench it's surrounded by over time. It's like people working on industrial hog farms or down in pathology labs near formaldehyde. The nose gets used to it and only picks up maybe a tenth of what a stranger feels when they walk into the room.

Like I said—take as much as you want, I couldn't care less. But just know that two cloves a day will definitely be noticed by anyone near you, and it's not just your breath. You don't have to take my word for it, but someone needs to say it out loud.

@bluegardener4/">@@bluegardener4 - you still haven't answered my questions in posts 7, 9, and 11.
Walter Thomas18 Walter Thomas18 Active Member
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#49 ·
Believe me, people would tell me if they noticed it. I’m not talking about random coworkers, either—I mean my inner circle, the people who actually tell me the truth.
It’s noticeable when you’re right in their face, breathing directly on them. If you’re just standing nearby or talking from a foot away, they won't smell a thing. I’m certain of it.
You’re describing people who gorge themselves on garlic (and don't even bother trying to mask the scent) or folks who don't wash their clothes for a week.

P.s. I eat garlic tonight, maybe an hour or two before bed. There is zero chance anyone smells anything in the morning.
melloworca6 melloworca6 Regular
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#50 ·
I have no idea what you guys are even arguing about here.

Yeah, garlic stinks. It probably just depends on how much someone sweats, since they say it comes through your pores. If you sweat more, it’s only logical that the garlic smell is going to be stronger. I've heard that if you take it in powder capsules, you don't really notice it coming through your skin as much. 😁
steelwalker26 steelwalker26 Active Member
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#51 ·
bluegardener4 said:To be honest, I highly doubt anyone’s going to spot an inflammatory process here.I don't have any other underlying health issues, and generally speaking, I stay pretty on top of my wellness. As for why they keep prescribing me antibiotics? Honestly, I can't give you an answer there.

bluegardener4 said:My trips to the doctor follow a predictable pattern: I show up, they take a look at my throat, and that’s basically it. It says it's on. Then he prescribes an antibiotic. He checks what they gave me last time just to make sure he switches me over to a different one now.

I've asked you five times now: what did the doctor actually tell you? Do you honestly think a sore throat isn't an inflammatory process?
bluegardener4 bluegardener4 NewcomerOP
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#52 ·
Alright, I just went back and read those posts you were talking about and saw your questions. Looks like we totally misread each other, so I guess I led you down the wrong path. My bad.
I thought when you were asking about inflammation, you meant SOMETHING ELSE entirely, not my throat.
So, let me try this again: my doctor has always checked me out, usually just listening to my chest and stuff. Every single time he’s been writing me a prescription for antibiotics because of my throat (which is basically why I go), he told me it looked inflamed. But before that, he actually gave me a physical exam.
Jacob Stewart2 Jacob Stewart2 Newcomer
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#53 ·
Taking antibiotics seven times a year? Yeah, no wonder your immune system is basically non-existent right now.

Plus, if you aren't following the dosage perfectly—like cutting the course short or stretching it out—you're making a massive mistake.

And don't even get me started on how certain types of antibiotics interact with what you eat. Take protein synthesis inhibitors, like doxycycline, for example; if you’re sipping on milk while taking those, you're asking for trouble.

Look, a common cold isn't something you fix with antibiotics.
Getting an antibiogram or a swab test—those are the absolute fundamentals of modern American medicine.

Out of all the advice you've received from everyone else on this forum, nobody has mentioned the most critical part, especially given your situation. With that many rounds of antibiotics, you've essentially wiped out all the good bacteria living inside you. You need probiotics. Seriously, go get some immediately.

A healthy microbiota is the foundation everything else is built upon.
bluegardener4 bluegardener4 NewcomerOP
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#54 ·
Thanks! So, how long should I actually be taking probiotics, and which kind do you guys think is best?
steelwalker26 steelwalker26 Active Member
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joined Jan 2019
#55 ·
steelwalker26 said:why on earth are you popping antibiotics for viral infections?

First off, antibiotics don't touch viruses. Second, they wipe out the good bacteria in your gut, which leaves your nutrient absorption shot to hell.

Build up your own immunity instead. Take a course or two of probiotics in capsule form to restore your gut flora. Stick to fermented dairy. Then move on to vitamin and mineral supplements alongside a more varied diet. Stay hydrated—drink plenty of water, rinse your nose regularly with saline, and use a propolis spray for your throat. You'll see the difference in a few months.

Jacob Stewart2 said:Out of all the advice everyone else here gave you, nobody mentioned the most critical point—especially given how many antibiotics you've taken to essentially kill off everything living inside you. Probiotics. Get them immediately.

The first damn response on this thread. You're commenting on other people's posts without even reading them. And from what I can see, the OP hasn't read them either.
Jacob Stewart2 Jacob Stewart2 Newcomer
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#56 ·
The longer, the better.

Go for something with as many different strains as possible—ideally, you want a combo that includes both probiotics and prebiotics.
Ferzym, Biokult, Lactibiane... just pick one.
Jacob Stewart2 Jacob Stewart2 Newcomer
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#57 ·
steelwalker26 said:Well, that’s the first real answer in this thread. You're reacting to what other people said without even bothering to read their posts. And honestly, looking at it now, it doesn't seem like the OP actually read them either.

My bad. I totally skimmed through the replies too fast.
Austin Hill6 Austin Hill6 Member
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#58 ·
bluegardener4 said:My trips to the doctor always follow this exact same predictable pattern: I show up, they take one quick look at my throat, declare it inflamed, and immediately prescribe an antibiotic. Then, they just glance back at whatever they gave me last time to decide which different pill to throw at me now. Is it really that simple?

So, he honestly thinks it’s perfectly fine to prescribe seven different antibiotics in a single year? 😢
Someone really needs to strip that guy of his medical license. Then maybe they’ll stop acting so surprised when MRSA starts popping up everywhere. 🙂
melloworca6 said:We don't exactly hand out participation trophies like that over at the local health clinic. 😁 Look, you can demand whatever you want, but nobody here owes anyone an explanation. 🤷

I spend most of my time hanging out on ŽK, where there’s this strangely laid-back vibe that you just don't find anywhere else. Every now and then, I’ll wander over to some random thread based purely on how catchy the title looks, only to find myself wondering why everyone is so quick to start handing out warnings, red cards, and deletions like it's their job?
melloworca6 said:So you've got maybe two or three options left, right? And one of them is an absolute disaster of a doctor, while the other two are completely overwhelmed because everyone is fleeing that incompetent hack. What exactly are you supposed to do then?
...

He could have just explained himself properly if he actually wanted to be understood, don't you think? We have no way of knowing if he even has the option to transfer out. If he does, he needs to run for his life before this place completely destroys him.

Either they should just stop overreacting to every little inflammation and stay home to rest instead.
melloworca6 said:The people they’re suggesting as alternatives aren't any better than he is, and besides, what are we actually working with here—maybe two or three doctors at most?

I’m going to go ahead and bite my tongue for a second because I just brought up that website that relies entirely on subjective patient reviews, but how can you be so certain everything is actually bad if you haven't even bothered to verify it yourself? Don't people realize that someone else's story is often just an exaggeration?

If I’d actually had access to decent doctors, I would have switched specialists ages ago or driven to a different city for a second opinion without thinking twice. Isn't it true that once you lose your health, getting it back is one of the hardest things you'll ever face?
steelwalker26 said:Look, you don't have to take my word for it, but someone really needs to say this out loud.

Did you say the exact same thing to your coworker, or are you just too uncomfortable to be honest here?
steelwalker26 steelwalker26 Active Member
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joined Jan 2019
#59 ·
Lozimka, why would I? It’s not like she’s doing anything wrong, and I have zero interest in making things awkward for her.

But if she sat down with me privately and confessed that she mashes two cloves of fresh garlic every single day—only to mask it with gum, milk, or some heavy perfume—I wouldn't just stay silent. Her family does the same thing at home, so they don't mind, assuming they even notice. I don't work directly with her, but I do with other women. There's this social etiquette where you aren't "supposed" to call someone out to their face, but it’s so easy to just roll your eyes behind their back, smirk, and gossip about them. In my view, that's just how 🤮
works.
Besides, everyone's senses are different—vision, hearing, even smell.
But I won't dwell on it; that's a whole different conversation.
Austin Hill6 Austin Hill6 Member
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#60 ·
So you don't think she's doing anything wrong, yet you're busy lecturing us? 😕 Okay.

But you walk onto this forum and spin this entire saga about some unnamed colleague on a thread that has absolutely nothing to do with the smell, which is the definition of being a hypocrite. 🤷

Yeah, spare me. We get it—you despise social norms—but you aren't going to spare this poor woman from the gossip and the whispering behind her back, are you? You won't just look her in the eye and tell her what the actual problem is.

That said, looking at your other posts, I actually agree with you on this topic. 👍

I also wanted to tell the Google employee that if he can afford probiotics, he might as well grab some vitamins too; after all, like someone mentioned, all those antibiotics have wrecked his gut flora, which is vital for vitamin absorption, and without vitamins, you can kiss your immunity and health goodbye. Maybe that’s even the main reason you're constantly catching colds.

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