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Video quality issues on my laptop

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mistycyclist34 mistycyclist34 NewcomerOP
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joined Dec 2014
#1 ·
Hi everyone. About a month ago, I picked up a new Toshiba laptop. To be specific, here is the model: LINK1 LINK2

For the most part, I’m happy with the machine. Unlike my desktop, I mainly use this for entertainment—mostly movies and browsing the web, though I don't touch gaming—and some work in the Office. However, I've run into an issue regarding the video and image quality.

I realize this isn't a powerhouse machine and Intel integrated graphics aren't exactly known for being top-tier, but when I play videos, I see these ugly "blocks" appearing on the screen, almost as if there aren't enough pixels to go around. It's especially noticeable during scenes with black, gray, or blue tones. On the flip side, the actual colors in still photos are great; the brightness is high and the contrast is sharp, making images look quite pleasant to the eye.

Is there any way to fix this? Could it be a matter of outdated or incomplete drivers? I know that no amount of tweaking can change the physical hardware limitations. When I took it back to the store, they just brushed me off and said this is perfectly normal. That seems odd to me, though, because I had a laptop over ten years ago that was significantly weaker in every single specification, and I never dealt with anything like this.

I would appreciate any help.
Peter Morgan3 Peter Morgan3 Active Member
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joined Jun 2011
#2 ·
Take a look at your Maiden Manager to see if there are any yellow exclamation marks. Also, download this program to check what your internal temperatures are looking like...
mistycyclist34 mistycyclist34 NewcomerOP
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joined Dec 2014
#3 ·
Thanks for getting back to me. I took a look at the Device Manager, and there aren't any yellow exclamation marks popping up; every driver I checked reports that everything is working perfectly.

Here’s a shot of the temperatures:

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I should also mention that I'm pretty sure the pixel density is sitting right around 100 PPI.
Michael Jackson10 Michael Jackson10 Active Member
140 messages
joined Feb 2023
#4 ·
There’s just not enough info here to give you any real advice. Since they're sold without an OS, what operating system are we even talking about?
Are you just running generic drivers where everything says "OK," or did you actually install the manufacturer's specific drivers after setting up the OS? I've seen some "tech gurus" just throw some random Windows on there and call it a day without bothering to optimize the laptop. Dealing with unsupported drivers can end up being the biggest headache of all.
Which video are you comparing this to? Is the quality better on a different computer, or is that just a feeling? What does the video output look like when you plug it into an external monitor?
Is the footage stored locally on the machine, or are you streaming it over Wi-Fi or Ethernet with a spotty signal?

All of those things could cause artifacts on the screen before you even start blaming the actual laptop...
mistycyclist34 mistycyclist34 NewcomerOP
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#5 ·
The system has Windows 8.1 installed. According to the person who set it up, the drivers were pulled directly from the official Toshiba website, and everything seems to be running smoothly with the OS.

Regarding video playback—and I’m talking about pretty much anything: say, an original movie on DVD; the image looks somewhat grainy and isn't particularly crisp (as much as a DVD can be). Then there's the quality of Blu-ray footage: it's decent, but still far from perfect; you can clearly see color banding in the blue or gray gradients. Even with high-resolution content on YouTube, I'm seeing those "blocky" artifacts in certain spots that make it feel like the screen doesn't have enough pixels.🤔

I have to admit, I compared the exact same videos on other laptops, and even then, the picture wasn't quite the crystal-clear, flawless image I was hoping for. However, on this specific machine, the issue feels significantly more pronounced.

I haven't tried playing the media on a different device yet, like an external LCD monitor.

I'm asking because of that point you made regarding optimization. I realize that if the laptop hardware is just "built that way," there isn't much anyone can actually do to change it.

I've been browsing some reviews online, and they do mention that the pixel density on this particular model could be considered a bit of a drawback for some users...
Alex Barnes93 Alex Barnes93 Active Member
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#6 ·
Look, everything else is fine, but you’re totally tripping when it comes to the video quality. Honestly, I don't even have the energy to get into it with you... just go Google "video downscaling and upscaling" to get started. Seriously.
Look, your laptop is beefy enough to handle 4K video playback without breaking a sweat, so playing back stuff in FHD? Yeah, that's absolutely no problem at all. Seriously, you're totally fine.
I mean, I’m guessing you’re watching Blu-ray rips, right? So if the picture looks kind of crappy—you know, all grainy, pixelated, or just washed out—that’s totally normal. It’s just how it goes. Basically, the smaller the file size, the lower the quality. Simple math, really!
Anyway, let's be real—DVDs aren't even natively 720p or 728p by default. Everything just gets stretched out, which makes the whole thing look super grainy and obvious. It’s pretty clear why the picture quality ends up looking so much worse.

Alright, let's try this... First thing you gotta do is go into your settings and flip that power mode from Balanced over to high performance. Seriously, do that first. If it’s still stuttering after that—and honestly, knowing how these things go, it probably will—then you can go ahead and install it. Wait, what? CCCP? You're really gonna drop that out of nowhere? Man, you're wild! I feel like I just walked into a weird corner of an old internet forum from twenty years ago. Seriously, where did that even come from? One second we're talking about normal stuff and the next, boom—Soviet vibes. It’s like when my uncle starts talking about the Cold War at Thanksgiving dinner; everyone just kind of stares at their mashed potatoes and hopes it blows over. Anyway, whatever you're getting at, you definitely caught me off guard! So, I was just thinking about this earlier while staring at my setup... which one actually has all the important codecs built-in? You know, the ones you actually need so you aren't constantly hunting down random plugins or losing your mind trying to get a movie to play.
mistycyclist34 mistycyclist34 NewcomerOP
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#7 ·
@ Alex Barnes93 - thanks for clarifying the upscaling vs. downscaling bit. Looking into those terms, I stumbled upon this:

An upscaled video might not match the picture quality of content that natively matches or exceeds the television's resolution. This is particularly noticeable when you're trying to upscale standard definition sources to high definition, which can lead to the video appearing blurry or showing blocky artifacts.

That bolded part perfectly describes the exact issue I was talking about. If I'm reading this right, my laptop might actually struggle more than a lower-end machine when dealing with low-quality footage.

Were you implying something else when you suggested my understanding of video was off?

Exactly, we're talking about Blu-ray rips here...

My power mode is already set to high performance, and I just finished downloading CCCP.
Alex Barnes93 Alex Barnes93 Active Member
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joined Aug 2013
#8 ·
Look, man; why do you think an original Blu-ray hits like 25 GB while a rip is sitting at a measly 1.5 GB? It’s because they’re basically gutting the audio and visual quality just so people can grab smaller files without sweating their bandwidth.

Check out this example with the photo here:
If you were rocking some tiny little monitor with a resolution of like 632x475 pixels this image would look crystal clear on it, mostly because 632x475 is actually the native size of the shot. Since you’ve got a 1366x768 screen on that laptop of yours, try opening this image in your browser first. You'll see it defaults to 100% size (that 632x475 thing again, right?).
Now, save it to your desktop and set it as your wallpaper. Suddenly, it’s being stretched out to a way bigger resolution, so obviously it looks all blurry and crappy. It’s being upscaled and honestly, that's exactly what happens when you try to watch a DVD in full screen on your monitor.

Now, take a look at this image which is 2225x2212 pixels. See how sharp that is? Try setting that as your wallpaper. It’ll still look crisp because it’s just shrinking down from its massive original size to fit your laptop's 768p vertical height. This one is downscaled—which is what happens when you watch a 1080p (Full HD) movie on an HD screen (like 720p or 768p) on a laptop.
But hey, if you had a screen even bigger than 2225x2212—say, a vertical resolution of 3000 pixels instead of 2212—that exact same photo would start looking blurry all over again.

Do yourself a favor and Google the difference between raster and vector graphics. Since movies aren't (and never will be) in a vector format, you can't upscale them and expect to keep 100% of that sweet quality.

If you really want the absolute best experience, your only move is a pure Blu-ray (none of those rips where they strip out the good audio stuff)—specifically 1080p that gets downscaled to your monitor's 768p. If you go with a 720p film, it’s still technically being slightly upscaled to make up for those missing 48 pixels, which might leave a tiny, tiny bit of blurriness... it's super hard to notice, but it's there.
fadedwolf27 fadedwolf27 Newcomer
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joined Sep 2014
#9 ·
Alex Barnes93 said:If you’re looking for the absolute best quality possible, your only real choice is a pure Blu-ray—nothing else, no rips unless they've stripped out the audio. You want 1080p downscaled to 768p to match your monitor's resolution. If you try using a 720p film, it has to upscale slightly to make up those missing 48 pixels, which can lead to a tiny bit of blurriness. It's hard to notice, but it's there.

Honestly, I don't think anyone could actually tell the difference between a "pure Blu-ray" and a high-quality BR rip on a 15.6" screen, even if it were larger. Not that this laptop could even handle running it properly anyway.

That's a lot of technical jargon; you could have just kept it simple instead of obsessing over resolution and file size. And honestly, the whole argument about upscaling for a measly 48 pixels doesn't really hold water.

Think about it this way: a movie's file size is basically just the sum of its parts. In the simplest terms, you take the bitrate (kb/s) of the audio and video, multiply that by the duration, and that gives you the total size.
The audio track alone from a Blu-ray—just the main track, ignoring the extras—is plenty large enough to provide an excellent HD BRRip.
That’s why we have codecs, containers, and filters. They compress everything down to a specific size while maintaining the desired quality. And sure, resolution matters, but there’s no point in having anything higher than what your monitor can actually display.
It's just like digital photography. When you take a photo, process it, and save it as a JPG optimized for the web, you get a small file size but keep great quality. If you used a PNG for those same images, they'd be ten times larger, yet you wouldn't see any extra color nuances on a web browser.

But back to the laptop...😁
Your screen has enough pixels (resolution) for its physical size. If you convert those pixels per inch into pixels per mm, you'll see how dense they actually are.
Also, just because someone labels something as "HD" on YouTube doesn't mean the picture is actually good. Check out an official trailer or a music video with that label; you'll see the difference, and you won't even need to worry about codecs there.

If you're downloading movies, look for something labeled BDRip or BRRip 720p x264. It offers a solid balance of quality and size. Usually, about 1.5 GB for an hour of footage should be plenty for you.
Standard DVDs, even original ones, have much lower image quality.
If a movie has scenes with fog, smoke, or dust, you might see a bit of a "blurry effect"—but that's a result of the video itself, not your laptop.
Still, I suspect this might be a bit subjective on your end; maybe it's just a poorly made video.
Either way, it isn't exactly hard to plug in a second monitor and test it out.
mistycyclist34 mistycyclist34 NewcomerOP
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joined Dec 2014
#10 ·
Thanks for all the input, everyone.

I’ve spent some time watching high-quality trailers and clips on YouTube, and I have to admit, even those aren't perfectly pristine. You can still spot those minor artifacts and transitions I mentioned earlier, though they aren't exactly glaringly obvious.

I decided to run a side-by-side comparison between my laptop and another computer, and that's where the subtle discrepancies really show up. My machine is a 17.3-inch laptop with higher resolution and a much more powerful graphics card. Interestingly, lower-resolution files (like a 700MB movie or a 400MB TV episode) actually look less blurry and have fewer artifacts than they do on my laptop. It doesn't quite make sense to me, especially considering the points about upscaling and downscaling that our colleague brought up. 🤷

On the flip side, the color intensity on my laptop is significantly stronger; the colors feel richer and "better," almost as if the contrast is dialed up.

A third party—also a layman, mind you—suggested that my impression might just be somewhat subjective, echoing what the user above mentioned.

The issue is that I don't have another computer handy to perform a proper quality check, nor do I have a secondary monitor to test this on immediately (aside from my LCD).

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