Die-hard Ultras / Hardcore Supporters

Kate Ward50 Asks:
Is the whole point of this enrollment just some cheap shot at grammar, or is it about being a die-hard fanatic and an athlete? Or maybe you’re just trying to be one of those three banks—the festive local, the poet, and the artist—just like Lucky? 😵

It always seems like people just love mocking grammar, doesn't it? It’s become this constant, predictable cycle where everyone feels entitled to play the pedant, tearing apart how someone speaks or writes just to feel a sense of intellectual superiority. It’s honestly exhausting to watch. People get so caught up in whether a comma is in the right spot or if a verb tense is technically perfect that they completely miss the actual point being made. It’s like watching a guy at a baseball game scream about the exact angle of the pitcher's elbow while the runner is clearly sliding into home base; you're focusing on such a tiny, technical detail that you've lost sight of the entire game. We spend all this energy nitpicking the mechanics of communication instead of actually engaging with the substance, turning what should be a conversation into a shallow exercise in linguistic policing. 🙂...

Daniel Mitchell6 said:The old man is Branko Segovic, honestly one of the few true intellectuals left in this entire digital landscape, in every sense of the phrase.

Investigation, how on earth would you even know who that gentleman is???

It’s hardly a revelation that Times Square needs a complete overhaul. There was an open tender, and we saw at least ten—if not more—proposals for a brand-new stadium featuring stands right up against the pitch, all fully covered, with capacities ranging from 35,000 to 50,000 seats depending on the design. Several of those designs were truly world-class, making this current project look like Željko Markić standing next to Lisa Ann. We were promised a complete redevelopment of the Youth Park for the CIA, but instead, we ended up with this eyesore at Sun Life Stadium...

John Martin18 said:I have no idea which other cities you've completely screwed over, but Memphis belongs to The Boys too.

🤦🤦🤦

What is Memphis trying to pull by bringing that Rock music to the river?👍

After being away for so long, I find myself thinking once again about how much potential there really is for this group to step up, if only the Ultras and those surrounding them put in a little more effort. Wouldn't it be something to see this movement reach its full strength? It’s just a shame that instead of showing some real commitment, people seem more focused on finding some random jersey from a random German club than actually representing Hajduk Split. It's honestly a missed opportunity.

Aaron Parker70 said:After being away for a while, I have to say again—this whole thing is essentially a massive state of stagnation. There just isn't enough effort being put into the Ultras or the culture surrounding them. If people actually tried, this group could be incredibly powerful and impressive to watch. But instead, there’s zero effort—as long as you can join the front lines wearing some random Greuther Fürth shirt (!?), God forbid you wear two pieces of Hajduk gear... what a shame.

Read it, read it, and just keep reading... headlines like "Fans and Subculture," "Fans as a Social Urban Movement," or "Fans, Behavior, and Mentality." It seems like society is facing a moral crisis, but 70% of this group is facing a mental one! According to Aaron Parker70, we should all be wearing black, gray, olive green, or navy shirts, slim-fit styles, field jackets, hats, hoodies, and everything else from the Fan shop (which he calls a department store, not a stall!) because that is supposedly the only way to distinguish a subculture from a folk movement. Apparently, we need to highlight the difference between an Ultras fan and a regular Hajduk fan. Personally, if I’m feeling it, I’ll wear the jersey because I'm proud of it. I’ll wear a scarf, provided it matches the group's reputation and the vibe of the stands. It wasn't like the stands were strictly white back in the "eighties" and nobody complained. Why? Because the subcultural fan movement has its own vibrant energy. At the end of the day, the Fan shop sells white shirts too, and they're great!
The problem is that people waste their energy writing about the cops, Times Square, the absolute chaos of the nineties, or debating percentages of who belongs to which faction. Losses defeat fans both at home and away on every field, yet some guys sit there typing about whose graffiti is bigger or the ratio of Torcida to Forest Gudeks at the Grand Canyon. 🐔

Kate Ward50 said:Keep reading, reading, and just reading... headlines like "Fan culture" or "Fans as an urban social movement," or "Fans, behavior, and mentality." Basically, society is having a moral crisis, and 70% of the group is having a mental one! As if Buddy and I are going to wear black, gray, olive green, or navy shirts, slim-fit styles, jungle boots, hats, hoodies, and every other product from the Fanatics store (which is a department store, not some street stall!) because that’s apparently the only way to prove we're a subculture rather than just a mass movement. As if Buddy and I are desperate to show how different we are from Hajduk fans. I’ll wear a jersey if it fits me right because I’m proud of it. I only wear a scarf if it actually matches the group's reputation and the vibe of the stands. It wasn't like the stands were all decked out in white back in the "eighties" and nobody was jealous! Why? Because the subcultural fan movement had its own lively energy! At the end of the day, Fanatics even sells purple shirts, and they're top-tier!
The issue is that people waste their energy typing about thugs, the Stanley plaza, the hundreds of incidents in the nineties, or percentages regarding who has more members—all the other excuses within the fan culture scene. We lose games both at home and away on every single field, yet here we are, with some random guys typing about whose graffiti is bigger or what the ratio of Black Knights to Bigfoot is up on Mount Rainier. 🐔

There’s just no effort. You don't see any new flags, banners, or double-pole flags, nothing. Then you look at the stands and there’s zero structure; anyone can stand wherever they want, even in the core group. Literally, we can't even find two Hajduk shirts. It’s a joke when the leaders are wearing Lacoste shirts, designer bags, and Ray-Ban sunglasses, while someone else throws on a Greuther Fürth shirt (!?) like a total clown. Another guy is wearing a Thor Steiner green shirt (!?) and then we wonder why the rest of the crowd isn't wearing Hajduk gear.

Just go talk to the people in charge and explain what the dress code actually is, instead of just running your mouth here...🤦

People from Western Herzegovina have always been die-hard Real Madrid fans—they always have been and they always will be—so seriously, stop fighting over this nonsense and trying to mislead everyone!!! I know you guys are just annoyed because it’s geographically closer to your area, but it’s simply the truth!!! Cheers!!!

Is there anything more predictable than the endless cycle of noise surrounding ProPatria? One has to wonder if anyone actually listens, or if we’re all just performing for an audience that isn't even watching. says:
Why don't you just go over to the people actually in charge and explain the dress code to them directly, rather than just running your mouth here?🤦

Wait, are you actually the one posting photos from every single away game on Facebook and Instagram? Is that you, M.P.? Just leave me and my posts alone, will you?

Aaron Parker70 said:Wait, are you actually that guy who posts photos from every single away trip on Facebook and Instagram? M.P., right? Just leave me and my little rants alone, please.

Look, I’m telling you, probably 70-80% of the North section—you know, the part where the real hardcore fans hang out—are wearing official Hajduk Split and Red Army gear. Now, the fact that most of those shirts are black is just how the current fan fashion "trend" has turned out, so don't get hung up on that. And sure, if you see some kids in the stands wearing those specific brands you mentioned, honestly, I'm not a huge fan of all that flashy stuff either—the designer caps, the little bags, the bright sneakers—but it isn't just us, you know? It happens everywhere. For instance, at the last futsal game, I think I saw the guy leading the chants wearing a Lonsdale shirt! That’s just how things are nowadays, kind of like how things used to be back in the day... 😁 As for the standard flags and the ones on two poles, I really can't agree with you there, because I truly believe we have some of the best ones out there, and they look absolutely stunning when they're waving in the stands.😁

P.S. I just realized I quoted the wrong post, my bad.🙂

Daniel Mitchell6 said:Professor Smith is one of the few actual intellectuals left in this entire space—full stop.

Professor Smith is a huge deal—a super successful ethnographer and folk dance choreographer from the Mediterranean Coast—but like anyone else, he’s got his issues. Aside from being a die-hard Hajduk Split fan, he’s also got a thing for young boys.🤦.

So yeah, better watch your step.🙄

Douglas Martinez3 said:Western Herzegovina has mostly supported Dinamo Chicago since forever—they always have and they always will—so please, stop this foolish fighting and trying to mislead the public!!! I know it bugs you because it’s geographically closer to them, but that is simply the reality of it!!! Cheers!!!

Bravo.

Aaron Parker70 said:There’s just no effort being put in. You don't see any new flags, any banners, or even double-pole flag setups—you know what I mean. Then you look at the stands and there’s zero structure; people are just standing wherever they feel like, even in the supporter sections. Honestly, you can barely find two guys wearing Hajduk Split gear. It's a total mess—when you see the core group wearing Lacoste shirts, carrying designer bags, or rocking Ray-Ban sunglasses, while someone else shows up in a Greuther Fürth jersey (!?)—it’s just sloppy. Then you’ve got others in some green Thor Steiner shirt (!?) and it really makes you wonder why the rest of the crowd isn't wearing Hajduk stuff.

Man, what on earth are you talking about?

Aaron Parker70 said:Wait, so you're actually that guy who posts photos from every single road trip on Facebook and Instagram? M.P., right? Just leave me and my posts alone.

Stop trying so hard to act smart and just mind your own business.

Go deal with those Facebook addicts and fashion gurus of yours—you're honestly being ridiculous.

slytinker45 said:Professor Smith is this really famous, successful ethnographer and folk dance choreographer from the Mediterranean Coast, but like anyone else, he’s got his issues—besides his love for Hajduk Split, apparently he's also into younger guys.🤦.

So, I guess you can never be too careful.🙄

Yeah, that's how I feel too. 👍

Jonathan Lewis3 said:Stop trying to act smart and worry about your own backyard.

Go deal with your little Facebook maniacs and fashion gurus, you absolute joke.

An absolute joke? You’re the one leading the charge against HNK Rijeka now. Maybe think for two seconds before you start typing.

there isn't a pharmacy in the country that can fix this

God, it’s like everyone knows everything here... who posts what on Facebook, who’s actually leading the chants, what the training sessions look like, and even the ridiculous stuff people wear to the games or out on the town. You know the exact percentage of moms buying merch at the fan shop, the weird sexual obsessions of the retirees from the West Coast, and the specific hobbies of guys in other supporter groups. The only thing nobody seems to have an answer for is exactly how many local fans live in some tiny rural town near, say, Shipov. 🤣🤣
So go ahead, tell me this forum 🤣 is boring..

Douglas Martinez3 said:Most people from Western Herzegovina have always supported Dinamo Chicago, they always will, so stop this nonsense and quit trying to deceive the public!!! I know you idiots don't care because it might be geographically closer to you, but that's just the reality!!! Cheers!!!

It’s not even a question; I’ve actually considered not attending games after realizing this. We lost a major territory...