Die-hard Ultras / Hardcore Supporters

Let those guys fight among themselves all they want, but if there is any truth to these vultures in the media claiming that an innocent bystander was caught in the crossfire—and if it’s true that traffic has been ground to a halt because of this—then we are looking at a genuine catastrophe. No matter how you slice it, there is absolutely no excuse for such a situation.

That was just sad and predictable.

Gary Smith66 said:The guys can scrap with each other all they want, but if it’s actually true what those vultures in the media are reporting—that some random bystander got caught in the crossfire, and if it's true that traffic was halted or backed up because of it—then we're looking at a genuine disaster. No matter how you slice it, there's just no way to justify that.

Well, if the fight breaks out on the interstate, then yeah, traffic is definitely going to stall. I mean, come on, how are you supposed to rush onto the highway (which is the only way they'd even get close enough to fight) without causing a massive bottleneck? 😍

Adam Long8 said:So they scheduled the games for the next day, which would have definitely prevented the chaos. Brilliant logic there.

Neither of us knows for sure, but maybe we wouldn't be dealing with this mess if...

Gary Smith66 said:The guys can fight among themselves all they want, but if it's true what these vultures in the media are reporting—that some random bystander got caught in the crossfire and traffic was shut down—then it's a total disaster. No matter how you look at it, there's no excuse.

Anyway, there's just no justifying something like this.

Jason Williams5 said:I mean, if there's an incident on the interstate, traffic is bound to be backed up. Honestly, how are you supposed to rush over to the scene—which is the only way to actually reach someone—without causing a massive bottleneck? 😍

My thought process was more about what happens once the dust settles and the police, paramedics, and everyone else have finished their work. Just imagine someone who is absolutely desperate to get somewhere for a critical reason, only to find themselves an hour or more behind schedule because of a situation like this.🤷

When are we actually going to start taking fan culture seriously? I honestly don't get it. You all come to these threads about sports fans and spend the whole time lecturing us on how two groups shouldn't clash if they happen to cross paths at a stadium.
I swear, there isn't a single country in the world that spends nearly as much time obsessing over its fanbases as we do here.

You guys are really overreacting here—people bumped into each other on the street, a little scuffle broke out, and that was that.

Both sides are acting like complete idiots. Now that the spotlight is finally on the US Soccer Federation and their opposition—the hardcore fans—and everyone is watching their reputation, these fools decide to start brawling in the middle of the street.

Look, let’s be clear: I have nothing against a little physical confrontation if that’s what people want, but seriously, guys, there will be plenty of time for that later.

At this point, we really ought to be standing together against The Boss, instead of just making a mess of things...

boldfox88 said:Both sides are idiots. Now that the spotlight is finally on the US Soccer Federation and their opposition—the fans—everyone’s suddenly worried about their "reputation." It's hilarious watching these morons pick fights in the middle of the street just when it actually matters.

Look, just to be clear, I don't have a problem with people settling scores if they want, but seriously? Give it a rest. There will be plenty of time for all that drama later.

Signed, just a massive pile of idiots.

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Harold Kim5 said:We really need to stand together against The Boss instead of just making things worse for ourselves...

I guess we've had our fun playing around, but maybe we can actually get something done once someone finally decides to stop being so stubborn and picks up their share of the load.🙂

What are you guys even talking about?
Before you go deciding to call out your own group on this forum, maybe just take a second to ask yourselves who you actually are—and more importantly, what have you actually done for the group to give you the right to act like that?

Jonathan Lewis3 said:What are you people even talking about?
Before you start attacking your own fan groups on this forum, ask yourselves who you actually are and what you've ever done for the community to earn that right.

If they hand out 110 bans to people just trying to make it to the stadium on a workday... if I were a cop, I'd call that a successful raid.
It’s hard to see this as a win for either side.

But whatever. It's all just noise.

That’s exactly why I don't say anything until there's some actual word on what happened to those people.

Harold Kim5 said:We need to stand together against glavat instead of making things worse...

Give it a rest. You always show up after the damage is done to play the genius. What was actually needed was...🙄

Robert Cooper60 said:if those 110 bans hit people who actually show up to games on weekdays... if I were a cop, I’d just say "nice haul"
it’s hard to see that as a win for either side, really

but whatever—it’s intense

"A nice haul," sure, but I’ve got a feeling this whole crackdown is just going to pique the interest of some kids looking for a little adventure. We'll see some new faces in the stands, so there are pros and cons to all of this. 😁 The main thing is we need more young blood flowing in; these groups can't survive on old glory alone. We need kids—they're the future. The old guard is fine for stability, but everyone needs fresh energy to stay alive. 🙂 Without these kinds of stunts, there’s no interest—or at least, interest drops compared to when this stuff happens. Everyone wants to be a rebel, and honestly, that’s what draws people to the stands. That repression, that life-or-death struggle—without it, our world feels dull, devoid of any adrenaline, and let's face it, adrenaline is what makes fans, well, fans. So, yeah, fight the mob all you want, but we can't ignore what we are. Conflict is baked into the fan experience, and when two groups cross paths, things are bound to get messy—and they *should* get messy. Maybe a truce would have been better if it had lasted a bit longer, but hey, it's over now, no point crying about it. Life goes on. Our struggle continues despite the bans and all the hurdles thrown our way; fans will come out stronger on the other side of this whole mess. And that's the only thing that matters, alongside the fact that the American police force is riddled with bribes and corruption. And of course, screw you, Mamić. 🙂

Jonathan Lewis3 said:That's why you don't say anything until you find out what's actually going on with those people.

Look, everyone knows everything, and if you want the truth, you can get it. Was it stupid? Is it stupid right now? Am I being an idiot? Maybe.
It's just hard to stop a crowd once they're fired up. It happened, and we're all going to deal with the fallout—both sides. But hey, that's just life in this fandom, full of hypocrites and losers.

John Brown30 said:maybe you should just pipe down already. you always seem to pop up right when everything has gone completely sideways, just to offer some sort of hindsight wisdom after the fact,it would have been better if.....🙄

it really would be ideal, we could potentially ....😁

Kevin Evans3 said:, our struggle—it’s still very much alive despite all the bans and every single obstacle thrown our way—the fans will emerge stronger once this whole saga plays out. And really, that's the only thing that matters, especially when you consider how some local police departments deal with bribery and corruption. It's unavoidable, too— damn those league owners. 🙂

uncompromising fans, even if they try to shut us down entirely...