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Sepang Grand Prix - March 30, 2014

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Amanda Kelly Amanda Kelly Regular
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#161 ·
Ricciardo currently holds the record for being involved in the most chaotic incidents, basically leading his own little squad of penalized drivers.
As far as I'm concerned, he isn't personally at fault for any of it.
Since I view him as a genuine competitor, I don't really feel bad about the drama surrounding him.
Another reason there’s no point in feeling sorry for him is that he was essentially taken out by his own people—the fifth-place guys—whether they meant to or not.
brightwolf48 brightwolf48 Member
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#162 ·
darkmarlin16 said:Oh, please. He spent ages struggling behind Ericsson.

Way too long.

I mean, Ericsson— the rookie over at Caterham.

🙄

Right, because after he gets caught up in a first-lap incident through no fault of his own—potentially damaging the car or the suspension, though neither of us actually knows for sure—everyone just jumps on him. No one cares about the fact that he had to lift off to avoid putting his teammate in danger, even after pulling an incredible start. Seriously, can we get a little objectivity around here?
Amanda Kelly Amanda Kelly Regular
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#163 ·
darkmarlin16 said:Give me a break. He spent way too long stuck behind Ericsson.
Way too long.

Are you seriously suggesting his lack of talent is the only reason?
Come on, don't be ridiculous.
Patrick Bailey4 Patrick Bailey4 Active MemberOP
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joined May 2014
#164 ·
Joshua Scott said:Good grief, what kind of penalty is this? Handing them one during the race and then another for the next one?

Actually, nobody gave him any penalty while the race was still running.
darkmarlin16 darkmarlin16 Veteran
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#165 ·
Roger Wright94 said:So, what you're trying to tell me is that you're 100% convinced his total lack of skill is the only reason this happened?
Give me a break, seriously.

It’s definitely not the *only* thing, but yeah, it’s a huge part of it.
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#166 ·
Patrick Bailey4 said:Yeah, sure, because we’re all just going to take the word of the biggest clown in America, Mladen Jergović, and his imaginary connections in F1

Why do you think I'm laughing?🤣🤣🤣
brightwolf48 brightwolf48 Member
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joined Jun 2013
#167 ·
darkmarlin16 said:It’s not strictly true—but there’s some truth to it.

By all means, enlighten us on which part specifically you mean. That is, assuming you have access to Ferkan's telemetry and the exact suspension status of Kimijev's bolid right after his first-lap pit stop—and that you can somehow correlate all those variables against the total mileage the engine is expected to clock this season.
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
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#168 ·
darkmarlin16 said:Oh, please. He spent ages stuck behind Ericsson.

Way too long.

Come on, Ericsson was just a rookie at Caterham.

🙄

darkmarlin16 said:Not exclusively. But partly, yeah.

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darkmarlin16 darkmarlin16 Veteran
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#169 ·
brightwolf48 said:Look, why don't you enlighten us then, assuming you actually have access to Ferkan's telemetry and the exact suspension specs on Kimijev's car right after that first-lap pit stop, and then—if you're feeling really ambitious—run all those numbers against the total mileage that engine is expected to pull this season.

Honestly, I’m pretty sure stormybad8 is the only person in this entire thread who actually has any real telemetry data to work with. 😳☕
Jason Campbell70 Jason Campbell70 Veteran
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#170 ·
brightwolf48 said:Sure, he got caught up in a mess during the first lap through no fault of his own, potentially damaging the car or the suspension—something neither of us can truly know. But instead, people just pile on him. No one mentions how he pulled off that brilliant start, only to have to lift off the gas to avoid putting his teammate in danger. Can we get a little objectivity here?

The maestro managed to qualify on the second row despite driving an identical car with much more significant damage. ☕
brightwolf48 brightwolf48 Member
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#171 ·
darkmarlin16 said:I suspect that stormybadger8 is probably the only one here actually looking at telemetry data. 😳☕

Don't drag Tibija into this debate—I was asking you a direct question, mr. Spider Genius.🙂
brightwolf48 brightwolf48 Member
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#172 ·
Jason Campbell70 said:The maestro’s car is basically identical—only with much more severe damage—and he still managed to snag a spot on the second row during qualifying. ☕

Sure—if he’d actually had the luxury of time during qualifying to swap out parts without taking the kind of hit you sustain mid-race... things would look different.
jadeseal7 jadeseal7 Active Member
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#173 ·
brightwolf48 said:Come on, let's see a truly consistent and realistic Ferkan supporter for once!🙏 🙏 🙏

Well, honestly—it wasn't really any more or less expected than anything else from someone like Amanda Kelly, especially compared to everyone else...

Most people aren't actually rooting for Ferrari; they're just rooting for Alonso.
darkmarlin16 darkmarlin16 Veteran
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#174 ·
Jason Campbell70 I can't even begin to describe how much this whole situation is just... well, it's a mess, honestly. Like, you look at what's happening and you just have to laugh because it’s so absurdly predictable, isn't it? It's like watching a slow-motion train wreck where everyone involved is convinced they're actually driving a high-end Tesla instead of a beat-up old Ford that's about to lose a wheel on the I-95. You see these people making these massive, sweeping claims, acting like they've cracked some secret code to the universe, when in reality, they're just spinning their wheels in a muddy driveway in suburban Ohio. And don't even get me started on the sheer audacity of it all—the way they just pivot from one ridiculous argument to the next without blinking an eye, totally oblivious to how transparent they're being. It’s exhausting, really, trying to follow the logic when there isn't any to follow, but hey, that's just life in the fast lane, I guess.
The maestro managed to qualify on the second row despite his car being absolutely trashed—I mean, we're talking way more serious damage than what we saw before, but he still pulled it off. ☕

You’re just wasting your breath, buddy.

brightwolf48 said:Alright, come on then, enlighten us—assuming you actually have access to Ferkan’s telemetry and can tell us exactly how trashed Kimijev’s suspension was after that first-lap pit stop, and then, if you're feeling particularly generous, run the math on all those parameters against the total mileage that engine is expected to clock this season.

I can't believe I'm even looking at this link right now, but here we go, because apparently, we all need another reason to obsess over every single tiny detail regarding the team's direction. It’s just one of those things where you sit there, staring at the screen, wondering if anyone actually realizes how much weight these small updates carry in the grand scheme of the season. Honestly, it feels like we're constantly chasing these micro-trends, spinning our wheels while everyone else seems to be miles ahead, but hey, that's just how it goes in this sport, right? You spend hours dissecting a single update only to realize it might change absolutely nothing about the actual pace on track, yet we keep doing it anyway because what else is there to do? It's a cycle, really—just a massive, exhausting loop of hype and reality that leaves you feeling slightly more cynical than you were ten minutes ago. But sure, let's dive into the madness together, because clearly, none of us have anything better to do with our lives.

Honestly, the eras when he and Fernand were running things felt almost identical, especially back before he finally teamed up with the legend that is Ericsson.

Is there any chance the suspension got trashed specifically while he was tailing him and Grosjean? Honestly, who knows... I haven't a clue.
brightwolf48 brightwolf48 Member
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#175 ·
jadeseal7 said:It’s not even about being a Ferrari fan—people are just rooting for Alonso.

Look, I've been lurking around this forum for ages—I don't post much, mostly because my life's mission isn't to inflate some arbitrary post count.
brightwolf48 brightwolf48 Member
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#176 ·
darkmarlin16 said:http://en.mclarenf-1.com/index.php?p...A4ikk%C3%B6nen

The eras for both him and Fernand—before he finally landed that glorious seat with Ericsson—were remarkably similar.

I’m risking a ban just to call you out again, but honestly, everyone else on this godforsaken forum—except maybe you, in all your naive, endearing simplicity—knows the truth. If we're talking about someone actually capable of overtaking more than just the slow cars in front of them, or holding a line wheel-to-wheel, it’s Kimi. That stays true regardless of how much he seems to just not care half the time. Think for a second before you type next time; your post count on this American forum isn't exactly going to carry any weight on a resume.☕
Jason Campbell70 Jason Campbell70 Veteran
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#177 ·
brightwolf48 said:Yeah, if they had actually had enough time during qualifying to swap parts out and avoid that kind of damage, things would be different than when something like this hits you mid-race...


The bolid was completely uncontrollable after hitting Kvjat; the front left wheel was basically detached from the steering system.

They patched the bolid together fast, though according to Alonso and Domenicalli, the handling was still shot because of the impact.

The crew didn't have the window to replace the entire steering rack—they just swapped the linkage connecting the rack to the front left hub.

And with a car in that state, the Granda maestro pulls off a Finnish heist in just over a second. Specifically—1.2 seconds. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

By the way—why haven't I put you on my ignore list yet?
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Jason Campbell70 Jason Campbell70 Veteran
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#178 ·
brightwolf48 said:If anyone actually knows how to overtake more than just slower cars—if they can truly drive wheel-to-wheel—it's Kimi.

Sure thing. We'll see how it plays out in today's race. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
brightwolf48 brightwolf48 Member
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#179 ·
Jason Campbell70 said:The car was basically impossible to steer after hitting Kvyat—the front left wheel was completely detached from the steering assembly.

The car was patched up quickly, though according to Alonso and Domenicalli, the handling was still garbage because of the impact damage.

The mechanics didn't have time to swap out the entire steering rack; they just rigged the linkage between the rack and the front left hub.

And with a car in that state, the Granda maestro managed to pull off a little Finnish heist in just over a second. Specifically—1.2 seconds. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

BTW—why haven't I put you on ignore yet?
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I'm still undecided on the ignore list. You post too much nonsense—half of it is actually funny, the other half is just idiotic. I can't tell if you're genuinely innocent in some ways or just a relentless troll, but for now, you're heading back to the ignore pile.

Edit: Actually, you aren't going on ignore. I should probably respect and follow the sheer stupidity of some of your posts—since you're a troll who is somehow capable of having a very constructive debate when you actually want to—and just laugh while reading them...
Jason Campbell70 Jason Campbell70 Veteran
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#180 ·
Patrick Bailey4 said:finishing third with the second fastest car? That takes real 🙏

Of course TBC knows best, but Mark says Red Bull has the best car on the grid. 🥳

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