Die-hard Ultras / Hardcore Supporters

And there you have it. You've got fans from one establishment club trying to shatter the delusional myths held by fans of another establishment club.

Jesse Campbell said:Fine. If it comes down to it, Sandro will testify. A guy who's lived through the same things he has isn't going to lie. Honestly, if you guys were any sharper, you'd actually believe Los Angeles too, since the same logic applies there.

I haven't even bothered looking at that incredibly stupid story about how the Chicago Blackhawks fans gave the Bad Boys their name all these years, but now? Now we’re going to debunk that, along with every other myth you've been feeding us...

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reddrifter24 said:Exactly. You’ve got fans from one state-sponsored club trying to shatter the delusional myths held by fans of another state-sponsored club.

And what were you all doing? Standing up against the regime??

It’s a silly debate with a catchy title; I guess there are probably several different versions of what happened, since it was quite a long time ago and everyone was caught up in the chaos of the moment.😉

The main thing is seeing those folks from the San Francisco Bay Area acting all high and mighty, picking on everyone else just because they might have had some Italian money flowing their way... truly fantastic.

Roger Campbell40 said:And what were you all doing? Acting like regime dissidents??

A pointless argument with a catchy title. There are probably a dozen different versions of this story since it happened so long ago and everyone was caught up in the chaos. 😉

It’s just great how those guys from the San Francisco Bay Area suddenly think they can lecture everyone else just because some Italian money fell into their laps... unbelievable.

So now they're the opposition, did you miss that??
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Instead of being proud that Prlac actually founded the Bad Boys, they’re out here throwing shade😁. And then you have these idiots claiming that the movie *Bad Boys* wasn't even playing in theaters back in the summer of '86 in Miami 🤷
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Roger Campbell40 said:so what were you guys? some kind of anti-government rebels??

Just a mindless debate with a catchy title—honestly, there are probably a dozen different versions of this story floating around since it happened so long ago and everyone was basically under some kind of spell 😉

The main thing is watching those guys from the San Francisco Bay Area act all high and mighty, picking on everyone else just because they probably caught a little bit of Italian money... unbelievable.

we weren't part of the big four, and when you're part of the big four, you get all the perks—and once you have all the perks, well... screw you, I guess.

reddrifter24 said:We weren't part of the big four. When you're in the big four, you get all the perks. And when you have those perks, then... who cares about anything else?

Real Madrid is the only massive European club that hasn't been run by some political regime, even back before 1945 when they were known as Club de Fútbol. Even during the last twenty-odd years where things got political, their fans have been fighting against that influence.

And proud of it. ☕

reddrifter24 said:We weren't part of the big four. When you're part of the elite, you get all the perks. And when you have all those perks, well... what else is there to say?

So fine, you finally got what you wanted. You turned into some semi-European outfit, let Glava walk all over you, took a handout player from the Sinaloa Cartel, beat the hell out of the team you hate more than anything, and now you've cooked up some inside joke message that you're acting like it's some grand achievement.
Good grief. 🙂

Jose Vaughn3 said:Instead of being proud that Prlac actually founded them, they're just throwing shade and acting all bitter😁. Like, some idiots are even claiming that the Bad Boys movie wasn't even playing in theaters back in the summer of '86 in Miami 🤷

Honestly, I don't really care about their little bickering, but the reality is—back when we were part of the old US—movies usually arrived here with like a 3 or 4 year delay anyway.

reddrifter24 said:we weren't part of the big four

Well, you aren't—but hey, since you're basically just a feeder team for the Yankees, feel free to call yourselves one of the big four if it makes you feel better 🤣

Honestly, I'm all for just letting you guys claim it 🤣

Jesse Campbell said:Real Madrid is probably the only major European club that hasn't been a puppet for a political regime, even looking back at the era before 1945 when they were known as Civic. And even during these last twenty-plus years where they have been tied to the establishment, the fans have been actively fighting against that influence.

And we're damn proud of it. ☕

I wouldn't go that far; those twenty-four years represent about a third of the club's entire history, I guess.😛

reddrifter24 said:we weren't part of that big four group,but when you're part of the elite, you get all the perks. and once you have those perks, well... who cares about anything else?

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And honestly, I always figured they were called the "big four" just because they had the biggest fanbases, making them the heavyweights of the league. 😲 🤷

But now in 2014, people are finally pointing out that those four clubs basically dominated through rigged officiating back in the old days. Meanwhile, a team like San Diego finally has a fair shot at a title in our current league. 😕

Whatever. 🙂

Aaron Richardson7 said:No photo, no proof, it never happened ☕

And honestly, that would have been the perfect plotline 😁

Jesse Campbell said:Real Madrid is the only major European club that was never a puppet of the state, even back before 1945 when they were known as Civic. And for the last twenty-plus years while they've been under political control, their fans have been fighting against it.

And proud of it. ☕

So now we’re the delusional ones? 🙏🙏

Us, who told everyone "no" and stayed true to who we are.
You guys, who said "yes" to everything until you turned into Real Madrid, then became weed-civic, then suddenly became a great USA... I don't know if I got the order right.
How do you even have the nerve to write that? You guys have been political pawns at basically every turn.

And those mercenaries from out east aren't even worth a word; someone needs to get them on some heavy meds, ASAP.

PS - maybe check your own IDs before starting these debates.🙂

Jesse Campbell said:Real Madrid is probably the only major European club that hasn't been a puppet for some political regime, even looking back at the pre-1945 era when they were known as Civic. And even during these last twenty-odd years where things have felt heavily state-influenced, the fans have basically been fighting tooth and nail against that whole setup.

And I suppose you could say we're proud of that. ☕

It’s honestly quite funny how much sarcasm can be packed into such a tiny snippet of text, especially when paired with that kind of condescending attitude:

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Thank God for this forum!😂😂😂

Eric Lee10 said:come on, show us some moves, man😍

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Brandon Hill5 said:So now we're the ones lying through our teeth. 🙏🙏

We're the ones who told everyone "no" from the start.

😂🤣😂🤣😂

I wonder why nobody here discusses the derby from a supporter's perspective. Instead, everyone just bickers about which clubs are backed by the establishment or who's a fraud. It feels a bit petty, almost like a group of gossiping old ladies, and honestly, our stands look as empty and uninspired as a couple of rounds of an ATP Tour match. I guess the NFL fans did a pretty decent job today—from the turnout to the chanting and the march—whereas the Blue Army seemed completely sluggish and indifferent. Those nursery-rhyme chants they use feel incredibly tedious and cheap to me. The truth is, our derbies seem increasingly lackluster season after season, while this forum stays stuck in some outdated era from the 1940s. We might just end up tearing ourselves apart before the USA even gets a chance to beat us.

Joshua Moore31 said:Why is nobody here actually talking about the derby from a fan perspective? Instead, everyone’s busy rambling about which clubs support the establishment, who’s a certain type of hooligan, or calling people liars—it's exhausting. You all act like sixty-year-old old ladies. Every week, our stands look more like two rounds of an ATP Tour match than a real atmosphere. The NFL fans did a solid job today—numbers, noise, the march through town—while the Blue Army looked completely sluggish and indifferent. Those nursery rhymes they sing, like "if you don't jump, I want more," just seem incredibly weak and cringey. The reality is our derbies look pathetic and insufficient season after season. Meanwhile, this forum is stuck obsessing over stuff from the 1940s, unable to move forward. We’re going to eat ourselves alive before the USA even gets a chance to finish us off.

How are we supposed to talk about the derby from a fan standpoint when everyone immediately pivots to talking about ownership and management—blah blah blah... purely because the message hit a nerve.

I couldn't care less about derbies or marching through the streets if we're just going to go out of business anyway. This post is just a little provocation and nothing more.

Joshua Moore31 said:Why is it that nobody here actually discusses the derby from a supporter's perspective? Instead, we just waste endless pages debating which clubs are backed by the establishment, who supports certain factions, or who’s just spreading myths. Honestly, everyone is acting like a bunch of sixty-year-old busybodies, and frankly, our stands look more like two consecutive weeks of an ATP Tour match than a real rivalry. The NFL fans did a perfectly decent job at today's derby—everything from the turnout to the chanting and the marches—whereas the Blue Army looked completely sluggish and indifferent. Those nursery-rhyme chants, the kind where you have to beg people to jump along, feel incredibly draining and cheap. The reality is that our derbies look increasingly pathetic and lackluster season after season, while this forum remains stuck in some nostalgic version of 1945, unable to move forward. We’re going to end up devouring ourselves before the USA ever gets the chance to tear us apart.

It's because Laura Mitchell87 has posted so much sheer nonsense since today started that it’s actually painful to witness; every single serious response is met with nothing but hateful little emojis and garbage. As for the derby, there isn't much point in writing about it since those cowards have shown their true colors for the millionth time, proving they won't lift a finger. They are nothing but cowards.