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Support for families dealing with cancer and other serious illnesses (Part II)

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Angela Wright Angela Wright RegularOP
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#3621 ·
Nicholas Johnson8 said:That massive pleural effusion developed over just the last ten days—right after we started immunotherapy with pembrolizumab.
We were really holding out hope for some kind of breakthrough, especially since his PD-L1 expression was north of 90%.
But it looks like the treatment itself might have triggered this fluid buildup...

It’s entirely possible this isn't even cancer-related, but rather a heart issue if his strength is fading. As people age, the heart naturally weakens and struggles to maintain its capacity. It's also possible the therapy itself took a toll on his heart.
I am so incredibly sorry to hear this.

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Angela Wright Angela Wright RegularOP
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#3622 ·
shadowmarlin5 said:Hey everyone, a close family member is doing terribly after their prescribed chemo. They haven't had the strength to even get out of bed for days, can't eat or drink anything, and they're dealing with constant diarrhea. At this rate, we're going to be worried about pressure sores from being bedridden. They were held overnight at the hospital once, but then sent right back home, and things are just spiraling downward. Before the chemo started, they were perfectly fine. Can anyone recommend a private hospital or a specialized care facility that takes in and looks after patients in this condition?

Why are you looking for private options?
The patient needs to be hospitalized. An oncology patient requires stabilization within an oncology ward at a hospital.
Don't take "no" for an answer—be persistent!

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shadowmarlin5 shadowmarlin5 Newcomer
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#3623 ·
They admitted her to the hospital yesterday, but get this—there isn't even a room available. She’s just stuck waiting on a bed out in the hallway/cubicle area without any IV fluids running, all because they're trying to clear a spot in a real room... and that is exactly why I am looking into private options instead.
mistyjackal842 mistyjackal842 Active Member
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#3624 ·
They can even administer an IV right there in the hallway. In my case, they gave my patient Paracetamol via IV along with saline right on the ER floor while we were just waiting for the emergency transfer to the pulmonary ward—which, honestly, was a fantastic unit. He actually started improving during those five days there because their care for immobile patients is just so attentive. If you have the choice, I guess you should always go back to where the care is good and where they truly want to help the elderly. Unfortunately, after that, we had to move him to the hospital closest to his assisted living facility, and it’s just not equipped for someone who can't move easily. Even though the staff in the ER were polite and admitted him immediately, it wasn't what I expected. I thought everything would be just like it was a month ago at the other hospital, but there's such a massive difference. If I had known how things would turn out, maybe we would have opted for private care and gone back to the first place. But since the doctor at the facility issued the referral to the nearest hospital and authorized the transport, we didn't really have any other option.
Angela Wright Angela Wright RegularOP
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#3625 ·
shadowmarlin5 said:They admitted her to the hospital yesterday, but there’s zero room left in the wards. She’s just stuck waiting on a bed in the hallway or some triage cubicle without even an IV drip, just waiting for a room to open up... that's exactly why I'm asking about private facilities.

Do you really think going private makes a difference here?
Look, she isn't some casual patient who just needs to be padded with supportive care in a fancy private clinic while they wait for biology to take its course. She needs aggressive, curative medicine to stabilize her so they can actually finish her oncology treatment plan. She is mid-treatment and had a severe reaction to the regimen. What she needs right now is intensive management and a full multidisciplinary tumor board to review her case and map out the next steps.

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mistyjackal842 mistyjackal842 Active Member
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#3626 ·
They’re probably going to try to keep someone like that in the hospital for as short a time as possible. I mean, if they're already asking about nursing homes, it's a pretty safe bet that the patient's condition is quite serious. My loved one was only in a care facility for a month; before that, he was bedridden at home for six years. Honestly, even being in a facility felt like a daily battle. It’s just sad, but in the US, patients like that often feel... well, written off. People immediately jump to suggesting palliative care, but it wasn't even cancer—he just had severe swallowing issues and couldn't handle liquids at all. He could only manage soft foods. I guess it really depends on the hospital and the specific ward, and how much the staff actually cares about immobile patients. There are some units where they truly go above and beyond for everyone, and most places are like that, but you see the difference. I even saw sanitation workers leaving brochures for assisted living facilities right in the hospital hallways, which was the first time I'd ever seen that. Since there aren't many dedicated palliative care units around here, I made sure to ask about them. My patient was under internal medicine palliative care because of his swallowing difficulties and lung issues.
Maria Collins33 Maria Collins33 Newcomer
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#3627 ·
Susan Sanders59 said:We’re just hoping for the best, honestly—we’re definitely the optimistic types when it comes to stuff like this...

From what I can tell, the medical side of things seems to be right on track. 👍 I was reading the other day how much of a difference a Mediterranean diet makes for cancer prevention—you know, focusing on olive oil, fish, and cutting back on red meat and all that.
Susan Sanders59 Susan Sanders59 Newcomer
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#3628 ·
Hi everyone,

I just got my biopsy results back and I’m looking for some help translating this. I’m currently waiting for my appointment with the oncologist.
I'm a total amateur here and honestly have no clue what any of this means...
What should I expect next?
P.S. There might be some typos since I scanned the report and pasted it here.

C19 - Malignant neoplasm of the rectosigmoid junction

Clinical diagnosis: Ca rectosymoidei

Specimen:
1. Rectosigmoid colon with tumor.
2. Upper margin of anastomosis.
3. Lower margin of anastomosis.

Pathological Diagnosis
1. Adenocarcinoma colonis. T3N0Mx
Tubular adenoma with high-grade epithelial dysplasia.
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3../

Description
1. SAMPLE: rectosigmoid
LENGTH OF SAMPLE: 27.0 cm of large intestine
MACROSCOPIC DESCRIPTION OF TUMOR: A mass measuring up to 5.0 cm is located 3.5 cm from the resection margin
MACROSCOPICALLY VISIBLE TUMOR PERFORATION: No
HISTOLOGICAL TYPE: adenocarcinoma
HISTOLOGICAL GRADE: II
MICROSCOPIC EXTENT OF TUMOR: Tumor tissue involves the mucosa, submucosa, and muscular layer, extending into the surrounding fatty tissue

RESECTION MARGINS:

a) proximal margin—clear of tumor
b) distal margin—clear of tumor
c) radial margin (mesenteric margin)
LYMPHOVASCULAR INVASION: No
PERINEURAL INVASION: No
TUMOR DEPOTS: No
LYMPH NODE STATUS: 5 lymph nodes up to 0.6 cm were isolated from the surrounding fatty tissue; histological examination of the sections showed no tumor presence.

OTHER:
MICROSATELLITE INSTABILITY:
MLH 1 - intact nuclear positivity
MSH 2 - intact nuclear positivity
MSH 6 - intact nuclear positivity
PMS 2 - intact nuclear positivity
The tumor is microsatellite stable (MSS tumor)

Additionally, 10.0 cm from the other resection margin, there is a pedunculated polyp measuring up to 2.0 cm. Histologically, it consists of proliferating glands with epithelium showing signs of mild, moderate, severe, and high-grade dysplasia. In the examined sections, there is no invasion into the stroma or the stalk, nor is there angioinvasion.
Angela Wright Angela Wright RegularOP
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#3629 ·
Susan Sanders59 said:Hi there,

My biopsy results just came in and I’m looking for some help interpreting them. I’m currently waiting for an appointment with an oncologist.

I’m a total layman and honestly have no clue what any of this means...

What happens next?

P.S. There might be a few typos since I scanned the report and pasted it here.

C19 - Malignant neoplasm of the rectosigmoid junction

Clinical diagnosis: Ca rectosigmoidei

Specimen:

1. Rectosigmoid colon with tumor.

2. Upper margin of anastomosis.

3. Lower margin of anastomosis.

Pathohistological diagnosis

1. Adenocarcinoma colonis. T3N0MX

Tubular adenoma with high-grade epithelial dysplasia.

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3../

Description

1. SAMPLE: rectosigmoid

SAMPLE LENGTH: 27.0 cm of large intestine

MACROSCOPIC TUMOR DESCRIPTION: formation measuring up to 5.0 cm found 3.5 cm from the resection margin

MACROSCOPICALLY VISIBLE TUMOR PERFORATION: no

HISTOLOGICAL TYPE: adenocarcinoma

HISTOLOGICAL GRADE: II

MICROSCOPIC TUMOR EXTENT: tumor tissue involves the mucosa, submucosa, and muscular layer, extending into the surrounding fatty tissue

RESECTION MARGINS:

a) proximal margin—clear of tumor

b) distal margin—clear of tumor

c) radial margin (mesenteric margin)

LYMOVASCULAR INVASION: no

PERINEURAL INVASION: no

TUMOR DEPOTS: no

LYMPH NODE STATUS: 5 lymph nodes measuring up to 0.6 cm were isolated from the surrounding fatty tissue; histological examination of the tumor sections showed no involvement in these nodes

OTHER:

MICROSATELLITE INSTABILITY:

MLH 1 - intact nuclear positivity

MSH 2 - intact nuclear positivity

MSH 6 - intact nuclear positivity

PMS 2 - intact nuclear positivity

The tumor is microsatellite stable (MSS tumor)

Additionally, at 10.0 cm from the second resection margin, a pedunculated polyp measuring up to 2.0 cm was found. Histologically, it consists of proliferated glands showing signs of mild, moderate, severe, and high-grade dysplasia. No stromal or stalk invasion or angioinvasion was observed in the examined sections.

This is colorectal cancer, but fortunately, it hasn't spread to the lymph nodes. That's a huge deal because if it had, we wouldn't really be talking about a cure, so the prognosis is much better. You're looking at oncological treatment next, likely radiation and perhaps a few cycles of chemotherapy. You have plenty of reason to stay optimistic about a positive outcome. I'd say you're looking at a 5 to 12 chance [of full recovery].

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Brenda Martin89 Brenda Martin89 Newcomer
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#3630 ·
Hey everyone.

Reading through this forum is honestly pretty heavy right now. First off, my heart goes out to anyone who has lost a loved one, and I’m sending so much strength to those currently in the fight!

My mom ended up in the ER because of some intense liver pain. To make a long story short, her CT scan shows a pathological process in the tail of the pancreas with secondary spots on the liver and lungs. I feel like I've spent the last few weeks reading every single medical article I could find, and I'm just feeling totally overwhelmed. Does anyone know where we can look into potential experimental therapies? I'm feeling a bit lost. I heard something about a vaccine that’s showing promise. Some patient advocates were mentioning things like TACE (transarterial chemoembolization?) and immunotherapy over in Germany, but the costs sound absolutely massive.

I just want to do everything I can for her, but I have no idea where to start looking for information. If anyone knows of specific clinics we could reach out to—whether it's for experimental treatments, a second opinion, or anything at all—could you please let me know?
Susan Sanders59 Susan Sanders59 Newcomer
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#3631 ·
Angela Wright said:It’s colorectal cancer, but luckily it hasn't hit the lymph nodes yet. That’s huge because once it spreads there, we're talking about distant metastases, which makes a cure much harder to reach. This means the prognosis is actually pretty good. You're looking at oncology treatments—likely some radiation and a few rounds of chemo. Honestly, you have plenty of reasons to stay optimistic about the outcome. I’d give it a solid 5 out of 12 chance of being a smooth ride, but the outlook is positive.

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We saw the oncologist today.
He was prescribed iPhone 15 Pro 8x—he starts the IV this Friday, followed by General Electric 500, four tablets twice a day for 14 days, then a one-week break before repeating the cycle...
Has anyone dealt with this before? It feels like an overwhelming amount to us. Everyone kept telling us it would be something light and easy, probably just pills... Now we're just sitting here in shock.

Any tips on how to make this easier for him and help him get through the chemo?
Brenda Martin89 Brenda Martin89 Newcomer
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#3632 ·
coastalmarlin21 said:Hey everyone!

I have some Vidatox drops that my dad unfortunately didn't get a chance to try out. A friend brought them over for me from Cuba—she picked them up right at a local pharmacy there.
The expiration date is 12/2024, so I'd love to give them away! I just really don't want them falling into the wrong hands or having someone try to flip them for a profit, because let's be honest, the prices they charge for stuff like this here in the States are absolutely insane...

Hi there! I just sent you a private message about those drops. Do you think they might actually help my mom?
Brenda Martin89 Brenda Martin89 Newcomer
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#3633 ·
Brenda Martin89 said:Hey everyone.

It’s honestly so tough reading through this forum right now. First off, my heart goes out to anyone who has lost a loved one, and I’m sending so much strength to those currently in the fight!

My mom ended up in the ER because of some liver pain. To make a long story short, her CT scan shows a pathological process in the tail of the pancreas with secondary spots on her liver and lungs. I feel like I've spent the last few weeks reading every single thing I could find online, and I'm just feeling totally overwhelmed. Does anyone know where we can look for potential experimental therapies? I’m a bit lost here. I saw something about a vaccine that’s showing promise. Some people acting as intermediaries between patients and hospitals mentioned TACE (transarterial chemoembolization?) and immunotherapy over in Germany, but the costs sound absolutely massive.

I just want to help her, but I have no idea where to start looking for info. If anyone knows of any clinics we could reach out to—whether it's for experimental treatments, a second opinion, or anything at all—please let me know.

Is there really nobody who can offer some advice? If anyone happens to see this, I’d love to know if you've heard anything regarding facilities or treatments at Cuba Medic. Is that legitimate stuff, or is it just people selling smoke and mirrors?

Anyway, thanks so much.
Angela Wright Angela Wright RegularOP
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#3634 ·
Brenda Martin89 said:Is anyone out there who can give me some advice? If someone happens to read this, I’d really appreciate it if you know anything about the facilities and treatments at Cuba Medic. Are they just selling snake oil, or can it actually work?

Thanks so much

Look, if you want real data, these sites basically hold almost every clinical study on the planet. Just type in your diagnosis, set your search filters—like by continent or country—and it’ll spit out every relevant study along with its inclusion criteria. My advice? Focus on the ones that are actively recruiting new patients.
https://clinicaltrials.gov/

As for Cuba Medic, I don't have any firsthand intel, but I do know plenty of people from the US head over to Cuba for treatment because it's cheaper and their regulatory hurdles for getting new drugs or procedures to market are much more relaxed. It’s a double-edged sword; there are definitely perks to that, but the downsides can be massive.
Angela Wright Angela Wright RegularOP
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#3635 ·
Susan Sanders59 said:He saw his oncologist today.

The doctor prescribed CapeOx 8 x—he starts the IV this Friday, followed by Kapetral at 500mg, four tablets twice a day for 14 days, then a one-week break before repeating the cycle...

Does anyone have experience with this? This feels like an overwhelming amount because everyone told us it would be something minor and light, probably just pills... Now we're just sitting here in shock....

How can I help him get through chemo more easily?

This is standard procedure. He’ll power through it. Just keep in mind that if even a single living cell from the primary cancer remains, it can create a distant metastasis and complicate everything.
There's been plenty of discussion here about managing side effects, so do some digging through the thread.
steelrider3 steelrider3 Member
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#3636 ·
Hey everyone.

A family member is battling Stage 4 melanoma—it’s spread to the brain and basically everywhere else. They’ve been through immunotherapy, brain radiation, and targeted therapies, but nothing is working. Every single scan just shows things getting worse.
Lately, they’ve stopped eating, their mobility is shot, and they're mostly bedridden. I'm also noticing this weird communication gap—they clearly want to say something, but it’s like they can't find the words. When I ask them anything, they just don't respond. This is a recent thing, and it's escalating fast. I wouldn't call it "dementia" because they still recognize all of us perfectly fine—it's more like the brain and the speech centers have just disconnected.
Could this be caused by the brain metastases?
If anyone here has dealt with something similar, what should we be bracing for?
brightgull95 brightgull95 Newcomer
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#3637 ·
steelrider3 said:Could this actually be due to brain metastases?

Yes.

steelrider3 said:If anyone here has dealt with something similar, what kind of outcome should we realistically expect?

Look, when a tumor has already spread like this throughout the entire body, you have to face reality. In medical slang terms? Expect a total Cancel Christmas.
Susan Ward91 Susan Ward91 Newcomer
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#3638 ·
Hello everyone.

I am not quite sure where to begin. I suppose I just came here to clear my head and share these difficult moments with some people who might actually understand.

My father is battling prostate cancer that has metastasized to his bones. He has been undergoing chemotherapy for nearly two years now, and it seems there is no end in sight. Since the disease is incurable, we are essentially just trying to keep it under control. It is difficult to accept the reality that there is no cure for such a cruel illness. I find myself hoping for a miracle occasionally, though I am usually forced back to reality very quickly.

We dealt with serious illness in our family about 15 years ago. I was quite young then, but I remember much of it. Unfortunately, the prognosis this time is poor, and I sometimes struggle with how to process that.
I still live with my parents and brother, and navigating these recent years has been incredibly taxing because the hardships have been so frequent. We have dealt with everything from a pulmonary embolism to the final diagnosis, the grueling chemotherapy sessions, and the various side effects. At times, he appears to be handling it well—he is mentally strong—but then a moment later, it is clear he hasn't truly made peace with the diagnosis and that it is wearing him down.
How do you all cope with the illness of a loved one? What helps you keep moving forward with your own life? Does anyone have advice? I appear to be handling things fine on the surface, but I often find myself crying alone in the shower when no one is watching.

On another note, I have a question regarding Cymbalta. If anyone has experience with this medication, I would greatly appreciate your input.
Because of the chemotherapy, my father has developed nerve damage in his arms and legs; it is called neuropathy. He can walk and functions normally, but his fingers and his legs—from the knees down—frequently go numb, sometimes more intensely than others. He also experiences occasional tingling throughout his body and certain areas are sensitive to touch; it isn't traditional pain, but rather an uncomfortable sensation, especially in his feet.

He tried one type of pill that offered no relief, so his doctor recommended Cymbalta. I understand it is used as an antidepressant, for epilepsy, and for the neuropathy he is experiencing. He has only been taking it for five days, but he is experiencing side effects like weight loss, occasional nausea, and increased sweating. Given that he had chemotherapy about ten days ago, some of these symptoms might be related to that, but it feels like they are increasing. I am wondering if any of you have taken this medication, what side effects you experienced, and whether they subsided quickly.

I apologize for the long post, but I hope someone will take the time to read it. Thank you in advance. 😁
shadowbison75 shadowbison75 Newcomer
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#3639 ·
Susan Ward91 said:How are you all handling having a loved one sick? What helps you just keep going with life? Any advice? I seem to be doing okay on the surface, but then I end up crying alone in the shower where no one can see me.


Hey Thomas Williams21, unfortunately we're all either past this or right in the middle of these hard days, both for ourselves and our families...😢
Situations like this change your life and your priorities at the core. Nothing is ever the same again.
My dad wasn't sick for long, but things went south incredibly fast—faster than you could imagine. And the worst part... he suffered.

Mom, my family, and I stayed positive in front of him. We talked about the future... while internally breaking into pieces because we knew the disease would just keep progressing. That was the reality they prepared us for. He wouldn't live to see the future we were talking about. But he still made plans, still dreamed, and we just played along to support him...

I think that fake positivity kept him with us just a little bit longer. He never complained. He cooperated with the doctors, who always said he was the perfect patient...
You’d do anything to help someone close to you, but you don't have any superpowers. 😢

Be there for each other... you, your brother, your mom... just hold on together. But also try to steal a few minutes for yourself during the day. A walk, a coffee, a workout... something small. I know nothing feels good right now, but just take a minute to get out of the house with a friend or a neighbor... It applies to everyone in the house, too.

Illness drains the patient, but it drains the family and the caregivers just as much.

I'll never forget what a palliative care nurse told us. She said that while we're looking after him, we have to "look after" ourselves too...

Wishing you all the strength to make it through this stretch... 🙂🙂🙂
Susan Ward91 Susan Ward91 Newcomer
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#3640 ·
shadowbison75 said:Hello Mayaaaaa, unfortunately we are all either dealing with this or going through incredibly difficult times ourselves and for our families...😢
Situations like this fundamentally change your life and priorities; nothing is ever quite the same again.
My father wasn't sick for long, but his condition deteriorated so rapidly—as fast as you can imagine—and what was worst of all was that he suffered greatly.

Both my mother and I, along with the rest of the family, stayed positive in front of him, talking about the future... while internally we were breaking apart because we knew the illness would only progress (we were prepared for that immediately) and that he wouldn't see the future we were discussing. But he kept planning and dreaming, and we provided the support for him to do so...

I suppose that sense of perceived positivity is what kept him with us just a little bit longer. He never complained and cooperated fully with the doctors; they even praised him for being an ideal patient...
A person would do anything to help their loved one, but you simply don't have that kind of superpower. 😢

Be each other's support system: you, your brother, and your mom... stay close. At the same time, try to carve out a little time for yourself during the day: maybe a walk, a coffee, a workout... something small just for you. I know nothing feels good right now and there is no reason to be happy, but at least take a few minutes to leave the house with a friend or a neighbor... Of course, the same applies to everyone else in your household.

Illness is truly exhausting for the patient, but also for the family and the caregivers looking after them.

I will never forget the words of a palliative care nurse who told us that while we are taking care of him, we also have to "take care" of ourselves...

I wish you all the strength needed to walk through this difficult period of your lives together! 🙂🙂🙂


Yes, these things completely alter your life; you realize what actually matters most. And what you said is true—illness exhausts not just the patient, but their entire circle, because it is incredibly hard to watch and feel powerless to help that person. 😢

I am sincerely sorry about your father. They say everything happens for a reason and everyone carries their own cross. I am glad that you stood by him as a family; staying together is what matters most. 😁

Thank you for sharing your experience and for the kind advice. Sometimes a warm word means a great deal. Best regards 😁

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